Cheers
G
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WHAB
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Amazing work you are doing, like a modern version of the labours of Hercules.
When I laid eyes on your Festool saw and other tools I figured it was going to be very interesting ~ sure has! 
Are you planning on insulation upgrades?
Cheers
G
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Thank you, @Gpaw 
Yes, insulation is planned in the attic. I still have some things that must be done before insulation can get done. The Fascia is practically non-existent, at least on 3 sides. Air Conditioning also needs to be installed. Then, I plan to build a grow space up there and I don’t know how that is going to fit into any of the other things.
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WHAB
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Ethier way this would take me four times longer than it will you and still be rough around the edges! Your a go getter that’s forsure!
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The ground was thawed, the rocks were not!
When I got back from my COVID vaccine shot we tackled the mailbox (would have been nice to have had it when they shoved nearly 19lbs of Mega Crop fertilizer in the old one! 
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I made the mailbox post on my brother’s antique Stanley Mitre Box when I didn’t have any of my tools here. The joint is half-lapped. It came out pretty well (Dang! I just noticed the stainless steel pyramid cap didn’t get put on the post…gonna have to get that done!). The mailbox is attached to the post by a piece of nearly 100 year old Oak flooring joist out of the 1924 Schoolhouse. Still need to tamp the ground around it down some more. A beautiful day outdoors!
I tried to find these V V V locally. No avail. I tried 4 or 5 local “building supply” establishments :facepalm: I got these while I was ‘in town’ (a place nearly 1 hour away) getting my shot (1/2 hour total time (Including 15 minute hold), very efficient operation - Thank you VAMC!)…
Just waiting on the AC Infinity CLOUDLINE T6 6” Inline Duct Fan to match it up with! 
. I see it is sitting in that ‘town’ mentioned above. Hoping it will make it here tomorrow instead of Monday as Amazon and UPS are showing in their tracking.
Gonna get the loft cleaned up, along with the bench in the picture and the woodshop in general - more specifically, the loft, though…it’s still thrashed.
Also, preparing to close up the space after getting the ventilation installed (it’s sitting at 80°F with it opened up and that booster ran running). I’m still pondering how to increase the space, at least to the North wall, and close it up. 2 more days at max before I do close it up and switch the ladies to Veg. The first ones I put in the Ebb&Gro are coming around after I failed at trying to kill them! 
. The one Tangerine Dream x C99 is bushing out!
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WHAB
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Topped’er off!
My neighbors came out to check out my work!
They Mooed in approval and just kept busily noshing away!
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WHAB
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Mine took 2 hour 10min. But they got backed up an hour after someone had a reaction. I am guessing a hypo as the the people bringing in the stretcher for the ambulance did act like their was an issues. That said, I talked to the Pharmacist giving the shout and they were doing 1,700 that day. They only normally were doing 1,200 per clinic. I shopped while waiting to be called so no problem for me.
which did you get?
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There was a stretcher nearby where I was too. I’m not sure of the numbers they were doing. They have been at it for about a month, they told me.
Moderna.
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WHAB
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I’ve been dealing with my back issues since my last post. I did get my first line of security in place Saturday evening, a Schlage Double Cylinder Deadbolt. I still have to install the aftermarket Reinforced Striker Plate…just need to mortise it in. It uses 6 long screws that reach through the door jamb and in to the Jack Stud.
IF you are unfamiliar, a Double Cylinder Deadbolt uses a key on both sides of the door. I have installed several in places where I have lived.
IF a thief does gain entry into your space, they’ll pile up their loot at the door but when they try to exit out that door (or any door so equipped) they realize they need a key, which they don’t have, to get out. They are left with having to exit out their entry point (other than that door, if that door is their attempted entry point they’ll realize sooner than they can’t even get in), most often empty handed.
I did vacuum the thrashed loft. Still have some minor detail work to complete the clean up. Will try and get that done tonight.
Then, I did receive the “AC Infinity CLOUDLINE T6, Quiet 6” Inline Duct Fan with Temperature Humidity Controller” this afternoon.
However, I’m sure it doesn’t mean anything but, the User Manual arrived upside down…I’m hoping it’s not a omen of bad things!
I bought both metal (plumbing tape) and plastic hanger straps. I think I’ll use the plastic strapping because it is less likely to wear into the ducting whereas metal strapping (plumbing tape) certainly will over time. IF I do wind up using the plumbing tape I’ll line it with rubber to reduce the potential of wearing through.
So, I am going to get that installed today.
I’m still pondering how I’m going to close this space up. My Thought Process Machine is having a difficult time getting everything laid out to make sure all the equipment/gear can still be serviceable. Once I have that tall East wall installed the Ebb&Gro controller will be difficult to get to. I would like to put the Air Conditioner right next to where the controller is now and route the Intake&Exhaust hoses out the ceiling panel there as well. But, when that East wall is installed they’ll both be difficult to get to to service them. I don’t want either one IN the grow space. It looks like I will have to build in an access panel/door on that wall to get to them. I can’t move them to the West side of the space because the reservoir is directly under the controller now and that is the best place to have that. I still have time to figure that out but I need move the A/C to that side and I still have to figure out a way to block a light leak created where the Fill&Drain hoses pass through the P&S (Poly Shield) sheeting.
One possibility is to lay a piece of plush cloth (like a bath towel) on top of the hoses where it passes through to the buckets and put a piece of wood on to of it the force the shape of the pass through (I think this will work). Another possibility I’ve been toying with is creating a physical manifold cover plate with the 6 hoses individually surrounded…like at wooden plate with cut-outs for each hose (I think this is what I will wind up with). Maybe a combination of both the cloth closure and the hose pass-through plate.
IF any of you have any ideas on how to best prevent that potential light leak I’d be willing to consider them.
I’m goin’ in!
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WHAB
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Hahah That’s how I felt too. Anyone with festool stuff is definitely gonna produce some quality work.
I only have hand me down tools really. I just need to start working for myself so I can make the full amount, the. I can afford some festool stuff.
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I love that security plate and those double deadbolts!
I think your idea with the wooden manifold sounds great. Just feed the tubes through and fill it with some opaque caulk or similar. Should work fine imo.
Cheers friend
-Rhino 
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I ‘may’ just be a hack that knows how to waste money!
You’ll see in the picture above with all the bits and bobs that dust is covering EVERYTHING! Not good. I had to use the massive dust producing miter saw out of necessity…rapidly made pieces and parts. I still haven’t found a great way to incorporate the Festool setup. It’s difficult making the transition, to be honest. It’s hard to make the transition mentally. My aim is to not use massive dust producing machines of any sort. But, I’m stuck in my old ways still. I’ll make the change but it’s not easy.
IF I can help in any way (answering questions/offering guidance), @Rhino_buddy I will. I thought about offering one of my miter saws up for grabs. But, again, I can’t force myself to settle on that decision…I know I will at some point, but that point is not today!
Regards,
WHAB
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Yes, I would recommend that first line of security to anyone that cares about the structures occupants or property…not just grow related. Criminals are becoming more emboldened. Your (not necessarily you in particular, @Rhino_buddy ) security is your responsibility. This is a cost effective way to ensure the occupants behind the Double Cylinder locking system are protected at the point of potential entry or exit. IF they knock out a piece of glass to reach in to unlock the typical deadbolt they’ll realize at that point that they can’t get in. IF they can’t get in they’ll also realize that once in they can’t get out either.
, @Rhino_buddy !
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WHAB
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I got an idea for you. In dealing with those hoses.
How about a plunge cut into the plywood floor with a cove profile. That way you could fasten them down in a trench under the wall. A little RTV make it light tight.
Cheers
G
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While I like the idea, @Gpaw … I do know the fittings in the controller need to be on the same plane as the hoses for the pump in the controller to drain the buckets as completely as it can. I ‘think’ creating a low spot in the hoses ‘may’ create a drainage problem. I am not sure of this, but I am sure that everything I have read and know about the Ebb&Gro bucket systems dictate they be on the same plane.
I just made a quick and dirty prototype, proof of concept…
While I won’t be able to make it out of Luan (it’s too thin and easily ripping the backside out) test material, I think the idea will work with thicker, solid wood, with a better and more accurate measured layout. A Bench Top Mill would be handy right now! I have a piece in mind. That piece of Red Oak I ran through the Delta 22-650 Thickness Planer is about 1/2 inch thick. I think that should do the job. I think!
Thanks for the idea, @Gpaw, sincerely! … I will keep it under consideration as I get to that point!
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WHAB
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So, what’s the first thing I do when I get up in the attic? Cut my thumb, of course!
I was reaching for my driver tips that were inside the transition duct and I ran my thumb across that edge and cut my thumb.
I think I stopped the bleeding. I wasn’t sure I would be able to so quickly. I’m on blood thinners that make that a bit more difficult than normal.
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WHAB
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I have tentatively routed the AC Infinity CLOUDLINE T6 Inline Duct Fan out the East side. I don’t want it out the East side. I want to go out the West side, the “back yard”. The East side is the front of the 1924 Schoolhouse. But, that useless, Tits-On-A-Bull Strong-back is in the way of running the ducting level with the elbow. I suppose I could go over the strong-back but it doesn’t work in my brain…it’s not the optimum way to run it. Air prefers to move in a straight line. I’m going to leave it like this temporarily but I’m likely to change it to go out the West side.
This also introduces another down the road problem. Wherever I put that duct in the attic I won’t be able to build on top of it without losing head room in the future attic setup.
That gray hose is from my Dust Collection system…I have another longer piece of 6 inch DC hose (clear) if I need it. I didn’t want to cut into the new AC Infinity ducting that will reach out to the end of that run, either the East of West sides.
The plastic strapping will work well in this instance…
When I set this up in the loft I knew I’d only do one or two full Veg and Flowering cycles in the loft then move it all up in to the attic when I can get that built.
I’ll have to plan the builds and changes in a way that I won’t be stepping on my own foot, so to speak.
When I went up there for the first time tonight the Air Temp was 80°F…soon after the fan was operational, it dropped down to 77°F. As you can see in the last picture, it’s down to 74°F.
The second bucket and the fifth bucket are from the first transplant. The second bucket is one I was sure would die. It’s hangin’ tough!
The others are from the second transplant of plants I was sure were dead. They don’t look like it in the picture but they are still alive.
I think this fan is exactly what I needed to keep the temps in check!
I only have the fan controller hanging upside temporarily. I will mount it properly when I get the installation completed, even if I have to build a mount for it attached to the ceiling.
I would like to be able to monitor what is going on up there from down here! That Hygrometer sitting in the bucket used to sit on my desk and the remote sensor that paired with it stayed in the grow but that sensor gave up the ghost years ago. I’ll see if I can find a replacement for it. IF I can’t find a replacement sensor I’ll try to buy another hygrometer.
I’d still like to see that AC Infinity fan remotely…but, unless I get a video camera up there (something I don’t own) I don’t think that will be possible, at least for now.
Gonna work on that closeout manifold for the controller hoses.
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WHAB
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Well that went better than I thought it would!
For some reason, probably because I’ve never used it here in the 1924 Schoolhouse, I only thought of my Bosch Router as an afterthought, when other options did not present themselves.
I made them longer slots than the hose is thick because I think the 3/4 inch plywood step-down will cover the opening of the slot on the bottom. I may have to add blocks to support the manifold plate.
Not an optimum setup, either…but it worked well enough!
I haven’t tried it yet - 
Here goes!
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WHAB
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It worked. It could be improved. The slots could be longer. I’ll likely do that while I have the router set up.
But, after I put a blanket on top of the P&S on top of the hoses inside the space it completely blocked the light. The combination of the manifold plate and the weighted down plush cloth on the inside solved the problem.
I feel better about closing the space in with that serious light leak remedied! There was no point in moving forward with closing it in if I couldn’t close that leak.
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WHAB
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