WHAB’s 1924 Brick Schoolhouse RDWC

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First, what was done…

It’s been like this since I’ve lived here. It is how my Niece specified it be done this way. IF that 4 foot wide pocket door were a hinged door the hinges would be on the left side of the doorway. Then look at that YUGE “Fan Controllers” I questioned the electrician why they were that way - he did the electrical here for her - and could we do anything to change them? He said my Niece supplied him with those fan controllers and that’s what he installed. He said he thought he remembered my niece telling him that they came with the fans or they had to be used with these fans. My biggest complaint about them (besides being obnoxious large and bulk) is they’re noisy. They hum and sometimes loudly.

He has to come back with the second NEW fan controller that’s on a switch…it has a slider like a dimmer switch.

But, AH…much better. Now they’re on the RIGHT (correct) side of the entrance as you enter the classroom.

Here’s that rain gutter…each piece is about 16 feet long, 6 or 7 of them. The downspouts are next to them…there’s a bunch of it.

Then, what I got done…

Three 6x50 ducts, one 6x24 duct and Four 6 inch elbows.

Oh, I found a few more 3-Wheeler parts, one being a rear axle. Shock tubes and sundry other item.

The Blue Board Drywall (I hope I can get it to lay flat - it is sitting on top of 2 YUGE Wagon Wheel Gates (HEAVY))…

And then, the Tomato Cages…6…

I also grabbed some tubes that look like they come from one of those cloth sided storage “sheds”…It’s just the tubes and some of the connectors are damaged BUT IF I can salvage enough to erect something to cover the new Gravely XT Z 52 I’ll make the effort. I have been rolling the idea of coming up with something to do that work. I was thinking extending the roof of the 1924 Firewood Shed. It’s not critical but if something presents itself I’ll ponder it.

IF either of you, @Oldjoints or @Rhino_buddy want any of what is available - commercial rain gutter with downspouts or 5 foot tall tomato cages - just let me know, please.

Oh, in the shop there as a medium sized mirror I meant to grab…I have a really small one (I don’t barely use them anyway, never have - I do hope to move the sink where a larger one would fit in better), I had to rub a clean spot on it to know it was a mirror.

I went for it the first thing. It wasn’t there…

Oh, when I got back, I just saw it in the background of that second to last image, when I got back a washer & dryer were waiting for me AND a what I assume is a 30gal blue barrel.

They look worse than what I have now. Also, 2 knobs are missing…

Now, still have to unload it.

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WHAB

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Honda 3-Wheelers assorted parts and assemblies…

Looks like a front hub and forks disassembled. 2 handlebars and a front brake grip and cable.

The huge wagon wheel gates…they’re about 6 feel long and about 4-1/2 foot tall.

Those tubes, there’s a bunch, should be able to put something together…

Then, I found a home for the blue board drywall. I thought I had another full sheet of 2 inch rigid foam in there. I also didn’t think there was enough space for them in there.

They’re in…

And, IF I can’t get something built out of those tubes, this is the roof I would like to extend out over the Gravely…

I think it’s early (read late ) enough I think I will still be awake for the 2AM feeding. IF I am, I’ll run the numbers.

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WHAB

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To restate…

To clarify…

In clockwise order starting with the runt. The first set of numbers are sequential order through this [latest titled Garden II Rebuild set of images] in this thread. The second set of numbers are paired up numerically.

I just took this image.

Bubba Kush 01 - The one whose roots were pretty brown, and all clustered together…

Bubba Kush 02 -

Bubba Kush 03 -

Afgan Kush 04 -

Afghan Kush 05 -

Bubba Kush 06 -

The numbers…

Res. Temps…65.7F

OG rejected it again, same pop-up, wrong analysis!

pH 5.7…and, 65F

E.C. bouncing 1.3

Good morning!

Make it a great day!

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WHAB

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I forgot…

I wanted to get some of this done…

All Three 6x50 ducts have this same damage…and the forth duct still in the bin.

I tried the ‘soft’ approach…

I had to go ‘hard’! Broke out the ‘anvil’…

Now I’ll do it again two more times, then hit the rack…long day.

I had a secret weapon in the Sheet Metal Repair Shop…

…my propane range adjusting device!

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WHAB

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Now they’re just pissing me off!

The last elbow wouldn’t spin into correct position. One of the joints, one of the outside joints. won’t turn.

It was a little dented so I removed that - and, at least I was able to break out the Ol’ Inside Diameter Hammer - that didn’t work.

I c-clamped that last segment to the Festool-ish Multi-Function Slab (I put the Multi-Function in Multi-Function Slabs! ) and couldn’t get it free.

I had to grab a strap wrench. I was able to turn it a little. I unclamped it and couldn’t spin it. I had to strap wrench it all the way around.

Just gotta install them now.

I did buy 2 more cans of that automotive undercoating for these ducts. I’m not sure now I’ll even use them for this.

Now, I’m really done!

Good morning!

You know the drill!

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WHAB

[Gpaw]

A couple thoughts on that booster fan…

You want to have it on when the downstream fan (or AC unit) is on.
How you ask? I’d select a relay with a 120VAC coil and use that to switch the attic fan on/off. (I use something similar with my lights)
Don’t be afraid to cut and splice the cabling to suit your installation. 18 or 20 AWG is fine as the fan pull less than an amp.

Looks like 250 (265) CFM best case so I’d plan on 200 CFM (or a bit less).

Cheers
G

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Hello brother @Gpaw

Can’t the booster fan run all the time?

@Gpaw

I’d select a relay with a 120VAC coil and use that to switch the attic fan on/off. (I use something similar with my lights)

I’m having a problem understanding what you’re referring to, my friend.

Could you possibly link me to (point me in the direction of) the information that you are talking about there, please?

I don’t recall reading any discussions involving any relay in an extraction set up.

@Gpaw

Don’t be afraid to cut and splice the cabling to suit your installation.

I won’t be afraid to splice things up once I’m understanding what I’m scrabbling up

I do, sincerely, appreciate your informational assist, G!

Thanks man!

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WHAB

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I stayed up LATE this morning, after my last update post. Below image shows the AM hour

The rigid duct below is just temporarily plumbing taped in place. Once I run the extraction duct they’ll reside side-by-side there.

I had to relocate and strip the CMT off of that outlet in that corner after all (I discovered that one outlet cannot go in the ceiling. The A/C power cord isn’t that long) to get the rigid ducting through the opening, but I got it done. I removed that tape repair on the flexible duct I put on it the other day and just used the first length of that flexible duct.

The outlet and that flexible duct are knocking into each other…and I don’t like it.

Thinking on it just now, I could swap out the pass-throughs, the heat extraction and the A/C exhaust, which would put the flexible duct in the opening you see and the elbow in the pass-through that will go on the near side it.

I’ll get to work on that soon.

Then the door, then the light, then the flip!

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WHAB

[LilJonB]

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Any objections to cradling it by the very front and very rear with rubber bungee cords, @LilJonB or others?

Yeah you can hang it. Or the Rockwool. I placed mine ontop of some Styrofoam.

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These came in today…

…I’ll have to have them in the work stream in the next couple/few days.

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WHAB

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Thank you, @LilJonB

The Rockwool worked out fine but I didn’t like how the air pump rested on it. It looked unstable, off balance…leaning towards the snout.

I’ll note that I’ve been watching where the bungee contacts the air pump to see IF it is even trying to wriggle loose. They have not moved at all

Thanks, again, friend!

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WHAB

[Gpaw]

Yes, you can run the fan 24/7…

I was thinking of switching the boost fan by use of a relay that is controlled by the other fan (or AC unit) downstream.
After thinking about it a little longer, I realized your setup is a bit more complicated and would require some minor ‘hacking’ to implement.
So not a great idea.

I’ve been thinking about hacking my controller since I got it, but it’s in use most of the time.

This is my main light control:

The relay on the left is controlled by the timer. The power (blue cord) comes in at the bottom of the relay and out at the top to the LED drivers.
The short cord going to the “Timer Control” socket is how the timer is controlling the relay.

Cheers
G

[LilJonB]

That’s a dope timer!

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Sorry for the delayed response, my friend!

Just stopped for tea!

I sincerely appreciate the information you have provided whether it will work for me…all of it.

IF you’re not learning you’re dying! I learned. although, a person may have to remind me of activities I may have missed or allowed myself to be redirected easily!

Your system looks amazing.

I could not appreciate it more, brother!

But, this is the extent of my Electrical Technician Abilities!

The above is not a joke!

I used it last night when I moved that outlet. I had to pull that switch and I thought I had to cut the hooked ends off to pull it out of the CMT…that was probably wrong.

Anyway, at that point I had to cut and loop the new ends and get the ground wire grounded to the metal outlet and the electrical outlet itself.

I got it back together wrong.

That little device was made for electrical simpletons like me…it saved the day!

As you describe the components, I do understand what you’re saying, and it sounds like I could use such a system - it’s French to me!

But, this…

…I (we) can Marshall that aircraft in to the hangar, take it completely apart (like completely apart, engines, oxygen system, flight controls, landing gear…etc…even its paint), inspect all of its systems Mil-Spec or Boeing Spec (sometimes the same, sometimes not), repair/rework/replace those “squawks” in accordance with the military’s Technical Orders (Air Force in this instance), test those systems and get it airworthy making it capable of safely flying away with humans on board…a lot of whom I knew personally.

This is my search result using Boeing and the Air Force’s Online Engineering Database.

These is one successful results to of that particular research.

A close up of the above Engineering Drawing…I could build that to spec and have another person inspect my work. I have done that work and a lot of it.

Maybe I’m so weak on the Electrician side of things because I am a visual person.

I can see the connecting dots from start to finish…even if one has to ‘drill down’ tens of layers and follow the trail back to a complete flight worthy flying machine.

I don’t have the same capacity regards Schematics - it’s French to me.

I think having my A/C exhaust fan on a schedule I’m sure would be beneficial. I just don’t personally know how to get there.

I do thank you, immensely, for any and all ideas, recommendations and suggestions or a knock upside the overripe melon with a "Hey, are you sure that is workable, aren’t you forgetting something?!?! "

From any of you peeking in!

Time for a

Tease: I’m very close…my back wanted me to quit several hours ago!

Happy 420!

Thank you! ,
WHAB

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I spent several hours today - awake - convincing myself to take a day off.

My back is really killing me!

This is when I convinced myself to not take a nap and to get back at it (time stamped)!

Just showing the hose clamp…Oh, I ran 1 inch aluminum tape in the really tight section, then taped on top of that…

Then fully taping the area with 4 inch(?) tape, even the drive screw assembly.

My Work Bench…

I exceeded the limitation of my Tape Clamp.

Fitting them in for what I hope will be the last time!

Then I fitted the flexible duct to the space right above the 1000W bulb.

I used a small wooden bock on the open end to capture 2 wires of the spiral wire flexible ducting.

Re-boxing the bulkhead pass-through. (notice my lines. I wound up about 1/2 inch from my start point).

I made a support for the plumbers tape when I get to that point (very, very close).

Leveled it out…

I left those original 1924 repurposed tin ceiling wrap-around (flaps) in place until I decided, or the work directed me to a final decision.

I wanted to re-wrap them but it doesn’t look like that will be possible.

IF I can’t wrap them I’ll cut them off at the bend.

I discovered the 2nd piece of ducting that I should probably thoroughly clean the surface to promote adhesion.

I started wiping them all down.

I may have to rework one joint IF it fails*

Speaking of which. I inspected your tape joint to see IF it needed any work (it happens and while I was there I might as well take a look at it).

It did not. It’s held together very well, @Oldjoints!

Good work, brother!

That tape you used “FlexFit” is STICKY!

https://www.amazon.com/Plastics-1141184-Flexfix-UL181B-FX-Listed/dp/B072M5X5QQ

Good stuff, man!

I used that sticky end (that previous tape joint) on the elbow I added it to so my tape would stick to it!

I’ll be picking some of that stuff!

Now, I still have to install the vertical ducting to the exterior wall, drill the 6 inch holes through the ceiling, extend the duct into the attic and make my turn to the fans.

I’m thinking ‘right now’ I’m going to see how well that A/C pushes air up through the ducting into the attic and decide if it will perform on its own or needs booster. It may not.

I’m not sure how I’ll duct through the ceiling at this moment in time.

I ‘may’ have to go get another 2 foot piece.

I just realized that I do have one square-to-round duct that fits into the soffit. I forgot to pick up a second one.

My back is literally killing me.

I’m going to try a big ol’

It ‘MAY’ have entered the dreaded pharmaceutical zone

I ‘think’ I’m done for the morning - but, we’ll see!

I’d like to at least get the vertical up and spot the ceiling where the 6 inch holes will go. And, that I don’t hit a lower chord of the truss.

I was going to try and make the 2AM feeding. I just missed it. I’ll check the numbers but IF it hasn’t changed I won’t post it.

Good morning!

HAPPY 420, EVERYONE!!!

Make it a great day!

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WHAB

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Weird story…

Some of this Tangerine Dream C99 literally kicks my ass. I literally had to lay my head down on my desk, or go lay down…

Some of this Tangerine Dream C99 doesn’t. I mean it’s good, very good…but sometimes it doesn’t lay me out.

I’m hoping for the lay me out material I just pulled out of the jar!

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WHAB

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That worked pretty well!

Pain subsided enough to carry on.

I don’t have any tek screws. I have these.

Just have to scrounge the #3 Phillips they require.

I predrilled the holes.

Plumb East to West…

Plumb North to South…

I really wanted to at least get those 2 vertical runs in place and ducting far away for now.

The left duct is pretty much fixed in place. The right duct needs minor attention.

I just don’t like the engagement of the crimped edge on that farthest/right duct.

I need to wriggle it around just a bit more.

Then, I thought I was ‘really’ done…(time stamp was that end point)

…and decided to add that 5 gallons of straight pH’d water.

I said I’d do it and I wanted to get it done.

The numbers about 1/2 hour ago…

Res. Temps…

pH before ADD…

E.C bouncing 1.3…

The start of the ADD…

The finish of the ADD…

It required 12ml to achieve the .7 drop.

I used that other bottom feed pump to transfer the ADD…that worked a treat!

I stopped work activity about 1/2 hour ago…

Time stamp now…

Wow!

Another fat then I’m going down.

I hope I pop up on the other end of that activity!

Here’s to popping up!

Good morning!

HAPPY 420!!!

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WHAB

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Well.

I’ve been out of bed for hours just trying to get around.

I spent some of that time considering my work day…and IF I would show up!

Of course I’m showing up! Then I set up to finish the ducting.

I heard the system start for its 6pm feeding.

I didn’t think any more about it.

Then I realized it was still running and I looked at the time, it was 7:29pm.

The system was still running when it should have completed the cycle at around 6:15pm.

The Feed pump in the Reservoir was trickling back into the Controller Bucket and it wasn’t emptying the buckets or control bucket. It’s a 1 inch hose so it is a large trickle.

I pulled the feed pump out of the nutrients and that stopped that trickle.

I just babysat the 8pm feeding and when the program started the emptying cycle feed pump was trickling back into the control bucket again.

I lifted the the feed line in the control bucket just a little, not even an inch, and that stopped it.

First, what the heck is going on? It hasn’t done that since I modified the feed line and installed the deflector in the controller bucket way back when.

Second, I think I have to trim the feed line in the controller bucket a little more, although I don’t fully understand why.

I’m going to babysit the 10pm feeding and IF it happens again I’m going to lop off a few more inches off the feed hose in the controller bucket.

Any ideas why this is happening?

And, while trying to figure out what was going on I lifted one plant, the runt (Bubba Kush 1), and roots are bursting on her.

I lifted the 2 Girls on either side of #1, #2 and #6 and their roots are bursting out even more than #1.

Oh, since I now have two 30 gallon barrels I ‘may’ look in to setting them up to hold the RO water that is available here. Thanks @Purple-N-Hairy for putting the seed in my overripe melon!

Back to work!

I hope you’re all having a wonderful evening!

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WHAB

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Continuing on with the ducting, I used a Kobalt Laser Torpedo Level to find 2 edges of the ducting on the ceiling. (I don’t remember why I even own this thing. I think it was leveling a floor where I had to FLOAT the ENTIRE floor. Nothing was flat, nothing was level. The entire 14 foot by 18 foot floor was shimmed into level. It didn’t work in that capacity. That’s why I have that Craftsman Laser Level)

Then I taped the open ends of the ducts so I can drill a pilot hole from within the Classroom then go up into the attic and drill the 6 inch hole from up there.

I came down for the 10pm feeding. After feeding was done and drain was supposed to be occurring, the feed pump was putting nutrients back into the control bucket through the feed line. I lifted it up just a little bit and that stopped.

Was condition…

I cut off another 2-1/2 inches of the 1 inch feed line.

Is condition…

Going to continue on with the ducting.

But, now I ‘have to’ stay awake for the 2am feeding to see it the fix worked.

Another glitch occurred today. The pilot in the propane heater went out again. It was 68F in here when I got up.

Getting back at it!

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WHAB

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Preparing in advance!

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WHAB