115-125-grain +P are your best 9mm rounds. If metallurgy keeps progressing like it is, there will be 9mm rounds that compare to .357 Magnum before too long. The Armyās new M7 rifle fires 6.8x51 from a 13-inch barrel but has velocities approaching 3000 FPS. Itās because the shell casings have a stainless steel base, allowing for much higher chamber pressure.
Weāre in a golden age of firearms, where MOA accuracy is basically standard, and even most ARs have 2 MOA accuracy, or even less. My son just got a PSA 9mm (a Glock 19 clone) for $300. Plus, every major manufacturer will repair or replace any firearm that doesnāt work (within limits, of course; no doubt there are limits within the warranty). I remember when guaranteed MOA accuracy with a bolt-action rifle would significantly increase the price. Now, itās standard.
I carried a .357 Ruger Security Six for ages. Probably the best handgun I ever owned. It was difficult to conceal carry, however. I sold it long ago and have been kicking myself ever since.
Iām fairly happy with my snubby .38. It goes everywhere with me and I never leave my house without it.
I donāt intend on getting into a firefight with anyone. Iām a crippled old lady and want something handy that will help even the odds against an assailant or varmints (dangerous dogs running loose are a big problem here).
Btw when I used to go fishing at night alone I would carry a .22 rifle on a sling. It was definitely a deterrent to people with evil intentions.
Psssst. You go far enough left, you get your guns back. Pass it on.
āStopping powerā is a myth. A bullet simply does not have the kinetic energy to stop a charging man in his tracks. What stops a gunshot recipient is going into shock. It can be hypovolemic (blood loss), neurogenic (knocked unconscious) or psychogenic (fainting at the sight of blood or knowing heās been shot).
The simple truth is handgun calibers are nowhere near as powerful as rifle calibers, and cause a fraction of the damage shotguns do. We say sidearms (handguns) are to be used to fight your way back to your long gun (rifle or shotgun). Handguns offer portability and concealability at the expense of a lot of range and power.
.338 Federal is an outstanding round, but rather difficult to find. In SHTF, you want something that uses a more common caliber, unless you have a lot of .338 available. That being said, I kind of regret getting a .45 pistol. 9mm would have been better, but the size of the Glock 21ās grip just felt reassuring, and .45 ACP is common. I tried a G37 and loved the feel of it, but the caliber is .45 GAP, a wildcat round not widely available. I can count on one hand the number of stores Iāve seen with .45 GAP.
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I am a reloader ā¦ a novice one but still a reloader nonetheless. My hunting partner hunts with a .338win mag and I reload for him. Before the big shortages came to Canada a couple years ago and well before prices on powders went crazyā¦ we stocked up. With several other hunters we know we put in some large orders with higginson powders and have all of our powder needs covered for years as long as the powder and primers store well.
I have 1500 nosler 210 partitions in .338 federal and about the same in a few other bullet weights the rifle likes. I am a huge fan of the .338 fed for the shtf scenarioā¦ while not conventional by any means, it has itās merits inside 300 yards.
There is quite the following in the states for the .338 federal subsonic in the suppressed large frame AR type rifles. Not sure how I would get a suppressor in the shtf scenario though LOL
I am and always will be a 1911 man and the .45acp suits me fine. Back in the mid 90ās a friend of our family was co-owner of a popular gun store that closed down. We got first dibbs on ammunition and surplus firearms like enfields, garands, sks-d and sks standard models and others. I already had a nice sks collection but i bought a few enfields to tinker with and still hunt deer with one every season. What i spent a pile of money on back then was milsurp ammoā¦ and lots of it. Sealed ammo cans and wood crates of .30-06 , 7.62 x 51, .45acp and 7.62 x 39. The x39 was the nice noncorrosive norinco stuff but everything else was north american or in the case of the x51ā¦ there was US surplus, south african, portugese, that awesome Hirtenbergerā¦ My LRB m25 loves that stuff as well as the older lake city ammo.
I am rambling againā¦ itās this Slurricane weed ā¦ good stuff!
I got ammo thoughā¦ lots n lots mruhahaha 
Inside of 300 yards is good enough. In SHTF, stealth is your biggest asset. Itās actually easier to avoid detection than people think. 5.56/.223 is adequate for anything I might encounter here, and with the same 300-meter range. I also have reloading equipment and materials, but havenāt reloaded in a long time.
If I bug out it is to the wilderness to live a nomadic , season dependent lifestyle at one with nature ;). Itās all been planned out hehehe. So the .338fed is more for animals than people.
It is well suited as an anti material round as well , say shooting something like a solid copper straight to an engine block or Helo rotor 
of course I jest for the most part.
In your locale 338 Fed would be a good choice for hunting . I built a 358 Win on a Win Model 70 action , Douglass 1 in 14 XX barrel , Kahles 1.5-6 x 42 a nice elk / moose in the timber rig . Both cartridges based on a 308 case necked up . Better bullet selection available in 338 , lighter bullets shoot flater / faster .
45acp is an old favorite . Was issue during my stint . Still shoot Bullseye outdoors as God intended , CMP service pistol . Have a Dillon 1050 just for 45acp & have built several 1911 's . All that said the Glock platform is much easier to maintain . Also like my magnum revolvers & hunt hogs with them .
jealous of that statementā¦ yes i am hehehe
If cost and availability werenāt an issue, Iād have a Honey Badger, a Benelli M3 (can go pump or semi-auto) and a Ruger 57 (5.7x28mm) as a sidearm. Iād also have an AR10 (for really long shots) if feasible.
In the meantime, my MILSPEC AR, 1300 Defender and G21 will do just fine for anything I may encounter here. Iāve taken an interest in āFuddā guns (only for hunting) lately, though. Iād love to have a lever-action 45-70 with a 24-inch barrel and 12 round capacity and a side x side double-barrel shotgun (with 2 triggers) and a .22 target pistol. Maybe somedayā¦
A buddy of mine has an AR10 in 6.5 Creedmore, and the recoil is way milder than I thought. The fact thatās itās also a 1000-yard rifle and that the ammo is still quite common makes that tempting. A major factor in my selection of a firearm is availability of ammo. I honestly expected 6.5 to come and go, but itās still around in quantity. The best sniper rifle I ever got to fire was an M110. Basically, itās a precision AR10 and it is such a wonderful rifle.
The Stag platform is nice and before it got banned in 2020 it enjoyed a brief couple years as a non restricted firearm in Canada. Meaning anyone with a standard license (pal) could purchase one and use it on public lands (we call them crown lands) for hunting or sport shooting.
Typically in the past āAR-10ā rifles were either Prohibitted or Restricted and were confined to the ownerās residence(prohibs under grandfathering/inheriting) since the mid 90ās.
So building a Stag with more than one upper was quite common.
I am an M14 enthusiast and as far as semi auto rifles go, it is and always will be my favorite rifle to build and shoot. We were fortunate enough to get premium components from smith enterprise, sadlak, krieger/criterion barrels, Sage Int, ect ect and for many years I carved a niche out as an M14/M1A riflesmith and stock maker (composite). I really enjoyed the LRB M25 and M14SA product and built a good number of those for fellow Canadians over the years. Sadly these were also all banned on in may 2020ā¦
Between the Stags and the M14 riflesā¦ my financial losses are pretty staggering and with the loss of my business literally over night, with everything I do catering to now banned firearmsā¦ I estimate my losses are between 85 to 100,000 dollars canadianā¦ I shit you not.
Now I am a full time cannabis breeder and the government can go to hell LOL
Fair enough but why are ratings in pounds? Just curious/ignorant/antagonistic 
Seems like 600 lbs of force in a half-inch circle will most definitely have an impact.
Higher foot-pounds does mean more powerful, but the damage a bullet does depends on how much energy it transfers into a target, and how itās transferred. Bullet style is also a factor. A round that transfers all of its energy into target is going to do more damage than one that doesnāt, irrespective of caliber (generally).
Bullet construction means a whole lot when looking at āstopping powerā and static shock.
A full metal jacket military round can and will pass right through and have very little deformation from the impact. Unless the bullet hits bone, it will pas right thru. These kind of hits can be survivable and this is why NATO countries use FMJ or Non Frangible ammunition for most purposes in small and medium caliber arms.
Now most police are issued ammunition that is frangible, designed to cut flesh and bone but also designed to expend thier energy inside the target, causing massive hydro static shok. These are called Hollow points, Wad cutters , semi wad cutters ect.
Hunting ammunition is the same ā¦ Frangible and constucted so the bullet mushrooms and cuts as it penetrates, also causing massive hydrostatic shock.
Let me say one thingā¦ Iām no expert but I have been a hunter for 30 years, Iāve put a lot of animals in the freezer in that time. Most of the time the caliber doesn;t really matter if i do my part but I do choose certain rifle/bullet combos for certain hunts.
One example would be for coastal black tail deer in the mountains of BCās southern west coast. Some folks might be familiar with Whistler/Blackcombe Ski resortā¦ my hunting grounds is north of that by a couple hours into the mountains. When we hunt those deer it is close range and I hunt from a treestand Iāve had there in that spot for over 20 years now.
Anyhowā¦ I use a 303 british 180gr federal powershock factory load although I do have a pile of .303 reloading materialsā¦ will reload when i run out of powershocks hehe.
Anyhow, I want those deer to drop in thier tracks. Itās steep wooded terrain, a couple hundred yards from the alpine. I find the .303 brit transfers itās energy and dumps it in the deer, generally dropping them in thier tracks or they take a few steps and go down. Other calibers/bullets have not given me the same performance at close range. So that is my favorite for those huntsā¦ I would also use the Stag-10 in .338fed if it wasnāt banned by our criminal government.
Though Iām sure a well placed shot in vitals also has a lot to do with it. 
You would be very surprised how far some animals can go even after being hit by the perfect shot. Bears and elk are notorious for this according to many hunters. I switched to the .303 180gr from a custom 18" barrelled enfield (1942 lithgow) no1mk3 after using the .308 faithfully for deer on the flat ground hunts. Even heart shot those deer were often making it 100 yards down the mountain before crashing. Not with the .303 180grā¦ same shot but much slower heavier bullet with extra velocity loss over book values due to the shortened barrel. I love it for those deer in that place. I hate it when they go down the mountain as it adds hours of work to the task
Oh yes, Iām aware. But you know that little wiggle and hop when he aināt gonna get far. Only once in my life have I ever seen something drop.
Do you got Roosevelt Elk up there or just RM?
we have both types of elk up here.
They transplanted a bunch of roosevelt elk in various places on Vancouver Island and the sunshine coast and some places east of Vancouver in what we call the lowermainland. The elk I hunt are a 12 hour drive north of me and are the rocky mountain type. They are sure delisciousā¦ probably my favorite meat next to blacktail deer.