To me It seems so unsure if the beans said to be really are the good “old” stuffs…not even thinking about landraces variaties…
But as you say, im wrong, how could this oportunity be possible Ghost?
That’s interresting to look more after this for me, do you mind to quote the state ?
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I usually grow a few different varieties of tomatoes, myself.
One year, I had a couple volunteers come up, and I just let them grow.
They turned out to be medium sized, and had stripes on them.
Who knows exactly what they were a cross of, but they were some of the best eating tomatoes I ever grew.
I used to work with a woman who loved tomatoes, so I took her plenty every year.
She went on about how good those striped tomatoes were for years, until she finally retired.
I also bred, raised, and trained coonhounds for about 20 years or so.
I hunted with some nice hounds, from some top notch crosses, but it seemed like most of the best performing, freak of nature hounds, came from an accidental cross, or some no name breeder who’s dogs didn’t have the best pedigrees.
I hunted with some big name dogs, that turned out to be not so great, all marketing hype, but they were collecting a lot of stud fees from a lot of guys breeding females to the mighty champion that they had never hunted with.
I have only been growing for four years, but have already noticed a few similarities.
A lot of the best weed is accidental crosses, and some of the big name strains I have smoked turned out to be all hype.
A lot of the weed just kind of runs together, falling into that bland boring category.
In my mind, it’s the Gelato category, I was really disappointed with that one.
I run a continuous grow, and have finished out, and sampled about 25 different strains, now.
Out those 25, I have 4 that I would grow again, another two or three that are borderline, and the rest, Gelato.
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Made me LOL. “I’ve got the original Colombian gold from 1974, but I’ll not share it with you!” Sounds dumb just saying it. In fact, the way heirlooms were preserved was by sharing them, ask the seventies outlaw breeders, who were always concerned about being busted. So they spread their moms and dads around, lest they be lost. Heck, that’s how the entire Amsterdam pot industry started.
Every pot aficionado in history loves to share their plants, heck, that’s the whole joy of growing!
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Bang on - can’t wrap my mind around a hoarding mentality.
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Post of the day, so well put!
I, too, love dogs. It’s almost always the mutts, the mistakes, the not quite so pure lines, where you find the dogs of a lifetime.
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All this talking but no hype breeder or grower can come up with a cut like SLH or PK or even the OG Kushes that ripped us 15-20 years ago
Not to mention NYCD or White Widow
I’m not even talking about the sativas back then, some scary trippy shit
The hash ? 2 tokes and your done for
Where are the cuts today that can compare to the golden era of weed which was 1990-2010
Skittles? Gelato ? You gotta be shitting me boi
If your not pushing 40+ don’t even talk about weed because you have no clue what we were smoking, that shit would knock you out cold, you need a year of smoking it just to build tolerance to go about your day and still your 99% fucked up anyway
In the last 7 years I haven’t smoked anything remotely close to those cuts
Weed is better today lol
Some statements just show how newcomers or new smokers are just living in their own Instagram dream world.
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And btw, demend for weed has never went low and the supply can never catch up with it, oh wait… Most of this hyped up weed that’s good for nothing is not selling ?
I wonder why
Haha that’s so funny, give me a pound or a ton of those old cuts I move them in a record price in record time
But give me your hyped led buds and even in the lowest price ever no one will take it 
And then when it doesn’t sell or move even when they give it for free, they blame “supply & demend”
Ahh the lies people live in, I wish I could be daydreaming like this all the time
I guess 20 years of extreme Purple Kush smoking got me numb to all those hyped cuts and breeders 
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I think people romanticize the past when it comes to weed (and other things).
I used to get high af on some really crappy weed back in the day because I was younger and my tolerance was super low so when I would get stuff that had a name that was grown well it would absolutely fuck me up. I feel like a lot of people are “chasing” that feeling from back then that they are never going to get again.
Dispensary weed IMO is also not a very good way to gauge a strain because the grower may not have the same priorities (or skills) as someone at home. There’s tons of variety and some of it is meh, some of it is great but I don’t personally think things were better in the past per se (although I’d have loved to be around when pure sativas were widespread and imported from other countries)
My tolerance was just way lower. I will never get as high as I used to get sharing a half a gram joint of mids with 5 people today even after smoking an oz to myself in an hour of some amazing weed. Not necessarily because all weed today is bad I think it’s more because my tolerance is so high from decades of smoking, and even quitting for a long tolerance break will never bring back those earlier highs. I’m sure I’d be getting just as fried back then off some modern stuff. Stuff from back in the day can be inbred AF too not just modern.
Not to mention there are way more people growing these days and many who are not the most experienced. I never write off a strain by growing it just once.
I feel like most of the people I know who smoke need the strongest stuff possible and it has to be well grown or it wont get them high at all. Back in the day these same people would get wrecked off whatever mids we could get. I’m glad to see old stuff re appearing and being mixed back into the gene pool but I think the whole weed thing not being special anymore is a combination of high tolerance, nostalgia and some sources not being the best representation of things (like most commercial stuff). IMO good weed/genetics are more widely avail than it was to the avg person today than it was 20 years ago.
There was plenty of stuff from my younger days I’d love today but a good amount of it I would consider garbage today because it wouldn’t even get me remotely high even though it got me wrecked back then. Personally I’ve never been high off any weed for 3-4 hours.
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Most of the weed we got in the 70s, when I was in the Air Force, was Mexican brown, and full of seeds. When we were lucky, we got Columbian, or Thai stick, or Michoacan , which were much better. All weed today is better than almost all weed of yesterday. My revelation was moving to Cali in 1982, and getting the great, seed free weed coming out of NorCali. They were just getting started.
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Im from the New England region. (East coast USA) It seems like a lot of the issues with the local market changing started from states legalizing along with the price of import flower dropping. Most of the growers i know either went legit or went and found day jobs because they didnt want to participate in the race to the bottom. Covid kinda compounded it, and a lot of legacy producer/suppliers all kinda peaced out around 2020-2021.
Ill stand by my review of zkittles lol. For reference, we used to drive hours, past better mountains to go ride at hunter mt because we knew some snowboarders there who grew some dank sour diesel. The kind that stinks through a mason jar. Had no idea the significance at the time lol just some kids looking for the dank. Fast forward 20 years and we can’t believe we actually experienced that
We used to have a local family that grew some white widow that would turn your brain into goop but you felt so good you didnt care. Personal favorite from them was their blue rhino and white rhino. The white rhino would get you almost tripping for a whole afternoon.
Strain i miss most would be the piff. Havent seen it in 10 years. First time i smoked a blunt of that, i spent the rest of the night thinking i was looking at myself in the 3rd person. Listening to pink floyd waving my hands back and forth infront of my face because it looked cool
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“Personally I’ve never been high off any weed for 3-4 hours.”
Boy, I sure have, ever tried Black Widow? Same with the early seventies weed, almost all of it. But we smoked a lot more it it, too, lol. You just can’t smoke 3 or 4 doobs of almost any of today’s strains.
Today, whenever someone says they “have some good stuff”, I know they don’t get out much. It’s ALL good these days, which is why it sometimes seems boring. After 15% or more THC, who cares? Different tastes, different highs, it all becomes subjective at some point.
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Legit. It’s not some exaggerated point. It used to last hours, not 45 minutes like today’s ‘modern’ stuff does.
Heh, fair point here but I still think the prior point stands. Can smoke a half ounce of Gelato in one sitting and you aren’t getting any higher than the first few hits, imo.
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Michoacon was my all time favorite, better than Gold, you almost tripped on that stuff.
50 year old strains, grown indoors today, are going to be way better than bricked weed of yesteryear, for sure. Without the seeds, stems, and dirt, lol.
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Agreed. The highs today are simply not the same.
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Mine, as well, although the Thai stick was sometimes better.
No wonder that I’m a Trainwreck afficionado.
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Ive seen some crazy stuff come out of those brick weed seeds. My buddy did his first runs with seeds he picked out of the bricks. Imagine what we could have had if shipping and packaging techniques were a little better
Imma see if he has any pics i can post
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I have a bunch of seeds, of various strains, from circa 2000. What are odds that they are still viable?
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No one is comparing brick weed to 2024 weed that’s foolish and simplified
We are talking about coffeeshop and home grown ops in the 1990-2000, that’s the weed no one seems to be able to replicate anymore.
I’ve been everywhere the last few years trying to find something decent
New Mexico, Amsterdam, Thailand, Morocco,
Nothing.
Everything is this strains no one ever heard of, bred endlessly from plants with low potency but high looks and yield, no penetrating smells, no crazy taste, no potency
It’s like weed today is so weakkk
Tolerance bs, what am I ? 65 ? I’m just pushing 40, my brain is fine and ready to get baked
Just the fact you can’t even acquire 90% of those cuts in seed form is telling enough that weed has gone downgrade to this silly color plastic buds that look nice but unsmokable
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The worst part is they usually pass the looks and smell test. A few strains ive tried the first few times I smoked them they lasted a decent while and then the tolerance for that specific strain shot through the roof. Switch to smoking a different strain and my tolerance is normal again.
Ive found if you stay towards the TK/chem influenced modern strains there is still some heavy hitters. Ive had a few cake crosses that impaired me for at least 3 hours off a bowl. To the point where i knew i couldnt drive. Similar story with most GMO crosses ive tried.
They can get especially potent crossed back to the old school strains. Smoked some TKO (TK x GMO) my buddy got and it has a serious perception warp. I was looking at a solid color neon sign thinking it might be changing colors kinda high
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