Which of these is the most potent? As in Psychedelic

Tom hill thai phenoes and anything with viet black. Its the SE asian genepool that holds the super trippy mind awakening creative herbs.
Dont settle for less :slight_smile:

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FWIW I don’t buy dispenso stuff either . I meant that much of the current stuff does not have the full spectrum of cannabinoids that the older stuff did . The new with it’s 1 hr buzz & flat one dimension high . Shit don’t make eyes red , give ya the " blind colombian munchies " , get up & move etc. Stick with landrace based or pre-95 genetics . I’m an old fuck , permanent nap coming soon enough . Sedation aint on my menu…Aint this a bitch , meant to reply to jimihendrix .

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Ive been cutting back, but yesterday i rolled up a small joint of my Durban Poison from 2022. i meant to take 1, 2 tokes but went for 4. Took about 15 minutes to feel the high coming on. Went to the kitchen to make some tea and there was a sudden "going up!’ and I was stoned. Pretty good i thought because I didn’t think much of DP. Got the tea going and a few minutes later “Going UP!” snd now i was really up about as far as I wanted to go. I began to worry because I was losing the ability to concentrate find my tea when “GOING UP!” quickly beyond my capacity and thought, “get to room…” but walking was out of the picture. My partner came into the kitchen and she said my face was white. Holding on to the counter I took a step - maybe two and woke up on the floor. She was worried, I had thrown up and couldn’t move, could barely talk. She cleaned me up put a folded towel under my head. Hard to say how long I lay there - maybe 5 minutes, 10 minutes, before i could work my way into a sitting position leaning against the kitchen cabinets. Knowing I was alive, she gave me a look like, “You’re a little too old to be doing this.” and left the kitchen. I felt the urge to pee, but couldn’t move so I focused on “bathroom.” Walking was not possible so I tried crawling. first a hand, then a knee - like that on and on til I found myself in the mud room. “This isn’t the bathroom” I realized and felt rather silly. But with a little effort got turned around and went hand knee crawling at an old dog clip to the bathroom. Pulled myself up on the toilet , did a three quarter spin and fell right on the seat… Relieved myself from both ends, slowly cleaned up and thought, “I think I can stand.” and I did. On very unsteady feet made my way to the sink, washed my hands and face face which was a big relief. Still unsteady but confident i could make it to my desk and chair i did and plopped down in the chair and listened to soft music for a period of unknown time before i had come down enough to move better than our dog level. “Tea!” I wobbled back to the kitchen. She had cleaned up the mess with out recrimination. If I was a religous sort i would have thought, “God bless her” but I’m not so i just felt like an idiot and thanked her. Got the tea and wobbled back to my desk, sat down.I would have enjoyed the high at this point but it’s hard to do after you pass out, throw up on yourself and have been crawling on hands and knees. The last time this had happened was when a friend gave my some Green Crack. But I hadn’t thrown up in that one. I think i might be somewhat hypoglycemic at times and smoking weed at those times is not a good thing for me. Guess i should get some testing done. Anyway, I’m thinking it might be time to pack it up. I made a batch of cookies a few weeks ago and they seem to be easier on the system. Just a nice mellow feeling that helps counter any coffee jitters i might have and get a good night’s sleep. No more of the Durban Poison. It’s too harsh anyway. But maybe now and then a toke of my Humboldt Sour Diesel which has always been mellow, positive without those “Going UP!” elevators that knock me out.
All that was Sunday. Monday I was still a little floaty. That adventure was not fun. It was scary, sloppy and silly. I’ll have to think this over.

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Jr Mint BBC MAC1. one of those HSC Phenohunter’s. Stuff is like hitting a rock. Then 20 minutes of coughing, while the eucyliptol camphene cleans out your lungs & sinuses & chest. Then it’s paranoid city, where the grass is a guy in a guillie suit, and the clouds are moving wrong. FBI in the trees. oh shizz.

Once you’re aware of it… it’s not a bad. but that first smoke. wow.

Ya. I just grew out that stuff again, too, and made some seeds. Call the stuff Paranoid Goat. mixed w/ my Cape Goat male.

NL#5 and Prime - Sour Blueberry are 2 strains I think of for like “high def vision” the world switches to HDTV 8k mode. Cindy99, back in the day was trippy as it ever was.

I made some hash out of Luxor’s Chocolate CBD, and that strain had THC-v in it, too. Stuff was great. Lasted for hours, like afterburners kicked in. well. the edibles had that afterburner effect. just smashed you 2-4 hours later, after you thought they kicked in.

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I smoked some Afghani mango a few months that i chopped waaaay too early and that was the only time I had to pull over from being too high :rofl:. Im talking about heart pounding through the chest, regretting every bad decision ive ever made type buzz. I sat in the circle k parking lot for about 20 minutes trying to talk myself down lol.

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I see ACE, has been breeding the Golden Tiger, more to the Thai Side. The Original, has a very cerebral high, but, it also has a very heavy body high, and a very heavy come down, which is what Im looking for. Heavy in both Body, and Head.
Anyone grown the more Thai Influenced Golden Tiger vs the Original?? Im afraid the more Thai influence, will detract from the heavier body high.

I now see I can get the version one.

Going to order 2 packs of Golden Tiger Regulars.

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Id say the strain I had in 1991, had some kind of powerful NL5 x Haze. A5-C5? I know not. One side of the strain I had, and was given, was an NL5 x Haze, and the other side was Nevils Hashplant, from the Seed Bank, and Skunk #1. Also consider, Nevil said the Hashplant he had, was the most potent stuff he ever smoked. Combine the heavy duty, drive the blood sugar into the dirt, with an extremely heavy duty physical high, and the stuff I had, made for an overwhelming ride for some. But I do know it was like you said. It would drive some/many peoples blood sugar level into the ground, for hours, and hours. And make them paranoid, and anxiety ridden. And no way they could eat, or drink anything, because they would be to busy dry heaving. It didnt do me that way, but, wen I first smelled it, after I had given a buddy the 15 seeds I got, and he did a seed repopulation, and kept some buds unseeded. As soon as he pulled a joint out, and I dry toked it, I knew it was the best dry toke, I had tasted in 18-20 years. If ever. And is still #1.
Id like to find a killer Golden Tiger Female, and cross it with a Male Crickets and Cicada Skunk x Puck BC3. Or several of them, and try and find the best male/female combination. Ive read some good reviews on that cross, and consider, my cross was also a Nevils Hashplant/Skunk cross, of which Puck, also comes from Nevils Hashplant, and has Skunk genetics. Also not claiming its Skunk #1, as Ive read its supposed to be some really stinky female clone from NY State and a Puck BC2 male. I also have Crickets and Cicada Pacific Northwest Hashplant BC2, whach are all but the same genetics Puck, came from. I got 2 packs of those, 30+ C&C BC1 F2 reproductions from NWSun.
And one Im waiting on is Lucky 13 1985 Skunk IBL. Its been worked, and is from 1985 seed stock, and have been released before, and sold out quickly. They wont be released until sometime next year. They have tested at 22% THC. Which really for an honest, uninflated test, is some pretty strong stuff, for Sk1. Make killer breeding material.

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I just ordered 2 packs of the Ace Golden Tiger Regulars-Not Thai Dominant.
I also ordered 2 packs of the Golder Tiger x A5 Haze.

I debated between GT X A5H, Panama, Killer A5 Haze, and decided on the GT X A5H.
The Regular Golden Tigers were also gotten for potential Males. Im guessing the Feminized GT x A5H, will have outstanding females.
I will eventually get the Killer A5 Haze, and Panama.
The GT x A5H uses the Meao Thai, which the other Golden Tiger crosses, dont have. Which Im sure may here know this, and are far more familiar with the specifics, than I am.
But I believe the original first GT release, also had the Meao Thai in it, and was supposed to have a much heavier Physical aspect, which is one aspect, Im after. Most if not all the best stuff I smoked in the 60s-70s, had both a strong mental, and physical effect. And lasted for hours. Eyes really, really BLOODSHOT. Not just Red. Bloodshot. Glowing from across the room. Anyone that looked at your eyes would instantly know you were fried.
Ace also have some other strains Im interested in.
This is impressive for the Golden Tiger.

I do have some NL5 x Haze, Cuban Black hybrids.

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You will not find what you look for in any Panama… never heard that. More dreamy hybrid effect for sure.

But anything with GT or KA5H is a winning combination on the paper…

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I believe if one went through about 50 females of either the GT x A5H, or the straight Golden Tiger. One would probably find heart pounding female or 2. From what Ive read, it looks like potency, is pretty consistent.

I also like other types of weed, but would just like to find something that is an extremely good representation, of some old school, top grade sativa. And something one doesnt have to grow 100 plants, to find 2-3 good ones.

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This describes “both sides” that you mentioned.
I always felt that cannabis was either one end of the spectrum or the other.
Never an extreme version of both sides combined. Then I remembered going to Lonoke.
I do remember weed in the mid 80’s in the swamps of central Arkansas that was racy and concentration was overwhelming and electric in perception.
I’ll have to tell you my story using it in brownies °0°.
And yes! Those “give away” tell~tell eyes, blindfold me with a shoestring, eyes.
You were high and everyone knew you were high. You’d look everywhere for your shoes for 20 minutes and you’re already wearing them. Seriously.
This summer I ran sativas and dammit we’re getting closer to that kind of fun weed we had back then instead of today’s cough syrup weed.
Anyway I ran across this description and had to share.

ACE SEEDS > HASHPLANT HAZE X KALI CHINA (HASHPLANT HAZE F1 [HASHPLANT X HAZE C] LATE ‘80S X KALI CHINA ELITE 4TH GENERATION)

HashPlant Haze follows the pattern of Neville’s F1 Haze hybrids, which take both the sativa and indica side to the extreme: very vigorous, well-branched plants, forming long, stunning colas (both in volume and flower density), with a powerful and long-lasting hybrid effect. The similarities between the HashPlant Haze and C5 Haze mothers are due to the fact that they share the same Haze C father, and have been observed by our team through cultivation experience, smoke tests and in the laboratory, confirming that both have a very similar chemotype and high content in THC, as well as a common terpenic signature.

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Mandala announced a sale, fem’s though.

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I ordered 2 packs of GT x A5H from Mandela last night.
Ill probably get the A5H next.

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IMHO the A5 will increase yield , muddy the buzz , reduce stretch & reduce potentcy .
Keep in mind GT already has PCK on it thru the Malawi . The A5 has NL . The KA5H is a heavy ylder , big sticky buds , same Malawi / PCK but minus the Thai . The Panama like most other ACE offerings also contains PCK to some extent . Very heavy lemon terps , good open structure , good for taming extreme tropical sativas for indoors . More a everyday happy active buzz ( green phenos ) , the red ones more body buzz . So minus the Panama , between the other 3 you should find more than 1 that strikes your fancy I’d think .

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This is what I have also been working on! The search for ultra potent trip weed. I just finished 2 of these Somali taxi ride from rare dankness it’s (Neville’s wreck x Malawi gold). Along with 3 different versions of Malawi, ace, TLT and RSC. They’re all different. I’ve finished the ace plants, just a little more chopping on the longer flowering one, and the TLT and RSC Malawi gold plants will be done in a month or so. From what I have tried ace Malawi, and Somali Taxi ride both show strong promise, they need a proper cure to know for sure. I will update with smoke reports, I did cross Somali taxi ride x RSC Malawi gold
Ace Malawi x RSC Malawi gold
And have plenty of seeds to go through if anyone wants to give them a go. I just recently pollinated a TLT Malawi gold with RSC Malawi gold pollen so another double Malawi in the works.

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I’m really enjoying the conversation everyone. It’s giving me a base point to start looking for some super potent sativas.

@Jonesfamily7715 I’m down to run some of your Malawi if you have some to spare.

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Reason I got the GT x A5H is for the Meao Thai influence. Im pretty sure the first, original release, had Meo Thai in it, and the newer versions dont, and the first version, was supposed to have a heavier physical buzz. Drunk, heavy comedown.
But I would most certainly grow out the Golden Tiger, as first on the list. Im also going to buy some Fems, of the GT, to compare to the Regulars. Only in the last year, have I started buying Fems, as I had bad luck, with many of them, a few years back, but I know some have really mastered the art of doing this, and Ive had good plants come from plants that produced a seed or 2, as far back as the 80s. Many strains will do this as a last ditch effort to survive, of which Im sure you know. So I took the dive.
First Fems I bought, after not buying for years, were S1 of Puck/Skelly Hashplant, from El Jefe, though, I havent grown them yet. I was warned they are finicky. But really potent. $300usd for 12 seeds. $150 for 6. I got 2 packs of 6.
I will also probably get the Malawi.

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ACE has their own thread on ICM / Vendors . Granted all company propaganda but mucho info , grow tips , pics etc. etc . Like 86 pages worth . Info going back to Charlie Garcia days , pretty much chapter & verse on ACE offerings over the years . Best way to find out genetic makeup of their stuff . Company pr either reinforced or disputed complete w/ pics & 20+ yrs of actual growers experience . What gets some vexxed is genetic purity of their offerings .

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Sale

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Yep. I ordered 2 packs this morning.

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