I picked up a pack of them purest indica from AG seed co. I haven’t run any. I’d like to do an open pollination While keeping an eye out for a good male
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Akbb Is definitely the source for Official NL genetics And a bunch of other old school Gear He’s definitely that dude and you can buy Straight from him.Really good People
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Incase anyone’s interested in AK Bean Brains list
e-mail him direct → dankortowne@gmail.com
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I own 30 or 40 packs from AKBB, and even I won’t claim that he’s any sort of “official” source for NL.
Like I’ve said, the best source is the original and that’s Greg McAlister who was part of the Northern Lights crew back in the early 80’s.
The only thing that AKBB has that is different is NL1. His 89 NL is likely a NL5 descendent but nobody knows for sure. His other lines are preserved well, but they are still second or third hand representations.
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He also seems to have an issue packaging the correct seeds into the packs. Had a buddy get ~8 different packs in two orders last year and idk if he just hated my buddy or had a problem those couple weeks but after growing out the packs and talking to him, he confirmed all the packs were mislabeled.
Had one NL1 pack that was actually his 89NL.
Another NL1 pack looked like some kind of NL5 BX.
An 89NL pack that was actually Super Skunk x Big Skunk Korean x Afghani Hawaiian.
Another 89NL pack that looked like NL2.
Just to name a few… so definitely wanna compare pics and smells and such when growing out AKBB’s gear.
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Yikes! I take it that the gear is actually pretty good. Dude just needs to lay off chiefing the TKNL5Haze when he is packaging the beans! I have his NL1…
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Oh yeah! I haven’t had a lot but what I have had has been damn good IMO. I still have a few other packs of his I plan on getting to before too long.
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Sorry to be presumptuous I don’t always have that much time on here with kids an all…I didn’t mean hes the only official source just that he has a s*** load From what I’ve seen True old school NL work Again I don’t presume to say He’s the only breeder with true NL work Of course I would Agree and also suggest Greg McAlister which Todd mccormick AG seed co. Is Preserving and working The more recent discovered NL’s from Greg as well Caleb from CSI Humboldt/Matt Riot Most people can say Caleb’s work is Thorough As far as AKbb only issue I’ve ever had was germination which he quickly reclified That sucks about the Miss labeled packs I’ll have to keep an eye out on that.
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A follow-up to my sad Authentic Genetics NL#2 shown above.
Upon harvest, I determined that for some reason I had bad nutrient channeling in my rockwool block, so the root system was pretty weak relative to the size of the plant. I’m guessing that led to my rapid leaf drop.
After 45 day or so cure, it’s turned into fairly generic fruity smell with a bit of a skunky undertone. Despite my fails in the grow and the kind of generic flavor profile, I do really enjoy the effects, enough so that I’ll probably try again in the future and try to bring a healthy plant to harvest.
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I just flipped a NL#2 from Authentic Genetics and 2 Purest Indica plants. Hoping to get some seeds by dusting the lower buds with Doug’s Blue Kush pollen and some Blue Sunshine pollen as well. It’s my first attempt at making seeds so I’m not expecting miracles this run.
NL#2
Purest Indica
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Con-men renamed it and tried to give it a bogus genetic background, but the plant doesn’t lie.
That is not Steve Murphy’s Afghan.
It’s clear as day that plant is Northern Lights #1 (Steve Murphy’s Afghan x Nevil’s Mazar I Sharif), the same NL#1 that Nevil supposedly never received.
The Mazar I Sharif shines right through that plant.
- Nevil’s Northern Lights #1 -
Pic by FJ
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Nice! I just sprouted a couple AG NL#2, so I’m excited to see what yours are looking like as they start flowering! 
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You have absolutely no way of establishing the parental relationship or genetic makeup of a plant on an online forum based solely by looking at a single picture.
Greg has been well established as the remaining source for the Northern Lights family. Neville is dead.
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Purest Indica (Steve Murphy’s Afghan), recent pic from Todd @ AG
I’ve never seen a plant from Neville that looks like that.
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I have years of experience with NL and landrace Afghan/Pakistani strains. You clearly have no clue what you speak of other than repeating lies.
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Here’s a quick breakdown for those of you who lack experience.
Every PI picture I’ve seen online shows the Mazar I Sharif, which has a very dominant trait/look.
Mazar I Sharif via @Roms
Steve Murphy’s Afghan has a different trait, which hasn’t shown up in any PI that I’ve seen.
( Pic by Todd )
Even Nevil’s NL5 (from seed, not the USNL5 Clone) shows the Murphy Afghan leaf morphology. Being that it’s a Murphy Afghan Bx,
If PI was really SM’s Afghani, then it would look something like this without the presence of the Mazar.
( Pic by @Upstate )
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Lol, 2 month old account spews more vitriol about people who aren’t here to defend themselves.
Here we go again…
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Bud, I was here way before you joined OG. Many of the older members know who I am.
I find it more funny that you can’t discredit my case, so you try attacking me directly. 
For what? The plants themselves are doing all the real talking.
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Join the club. I was on OG early 00’s also. Been growing a long time but I’m not on here ragging on other people calling them con-men.
It’s on you to prove your shit and so far, you haven’t proven shit.
I reiterate, there is NO way for you to state definitively anything except for what you bring yourself. Stop talking smack about others.
Bring your genetic fingerprinting proof of both strains and then you might have something. All I see is a very familiar “indica” type plant and leaf shape.
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Anyone that says they can’t identify a plant based on pics… needs to pay more attention imo. The plants don’t magically grow 100%, unidentifiably different, just because it’s not growing in the exact same climate. All the major structural traits will still be there regardless provided its not deficient. Outdoors vs indoors is probably the biggest difference you can find, and the stem rub and leaf traits will still be the same between the two.
You put the plants from the PI beans todd sold next to any old NL1 or mazar pic and the leaf similarities are uncanny.
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