Zephyr grows and creates

@zephyr, I’ve never heard of the conjoined seeds in cannabis before… That would be cool if you could get that trait to breed out…

I use full strength for about an hour, and I think I’ve read that it can’t hurt much from too much soaking.

I’ve been geting more into sanitizing my containers and pots for young seedlings and germing, and then sanitize/soak the seeds pre-germ.

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missed that one g-paw,
I usually just do a few drops in a shot glass. most shot glasses have a curved bottom, so I just pour enough to make the curved bottom look level. (don’t know if that made sense)

I sanitize my shot glass with isopropyl, then pour in a few drops of the peroxide. I fill it with tap water, and soak the seeds for 24 hours in this solution. after 24 hours I switch them to a new sanitized shot glass to soak in water with about a quarter teaspoon of lactobacillus serum.
You can use the liquid that separates from plain yogurt as your lacto serum.

I like @GMan 's idea of of a brief dunk in full strength peroxide solution before soaking to sterilize the exterior of the seed hull.

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quick lebanese guava update-
now that the male has been chopped, the lebanese guava reveg monsters have been moved back into the flowering tent. I am really happy with these, I love lines with resinous fan and guard leaves. even the stems are producing a ton of trichomes. I’ll be able to vaporize pretty much the whole plant except for the largest solar leaves growing out of the stem.

I just inspected them very thoroughly and they are 100% female and sexually stable after the stress of sexing, reveg, veg, power outages, veg, and back to flowering. Seems like this is a nice stable line.

The buds are kind of funky and stringy due to the reveg, which interestingly brought out what looks like pure lebanese growth coming out of hybrid buds.

They are lightly seeded due to my grow helper, who worked with the male plant and then wore the same clothes the next day without washing them. Not cool, especially during covid.

But on the bright side, these seeds could make some really nice melon scented hash plant hybrids.

I will take some photos tomorrow, and write up a description of the smells.

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Well there from CSI and Ghost.
And to be quite honest I have not ventured into them yet.
Was gonna do a Slow Poke run next season with Mac in there also.
There was one more pokey but forgot what it was its written down somewhere.

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These are pre98 selfies

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@Gpaw were you asking about my everclear hash making method a while ago? am I remembering that right? I wrote up a guide recently I’d be happy to send it to you.

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Like to read that myself, Zep

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I would also be interested!

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old school CA medical honey oil

Ok here’s the recipe for old school honey oil hash. Food grade alcohol concentrates were the only solvent based concentrate that was legal and considered safe for seriously ill patients in the old california medical system.

It can be smoked, vaporized, or dabbed. It can also be used as an edible, with or without oil infusion or decarboxylization. You can just take it straight up for raw medicinal cannabinoids, and a decent mild high.

This method is designed to be cheap, quick, and low physical labor. It is a great method for medical growers to use to get the most out of their harvests.

This is also embarrassingly simple compared to some of the growers on overgrow who make rosin or ice water hash.

all you need is everclear, a large mason jar, a strainer, a pyrex, and unbleached organic coffee filters.

This works with frozen freshly harvested plants, as well as dried bud or trim.

Fresh frozen has more terpenes, but produces an extract that has more plant oil and chlorophyll content. about 25% of these batches dab cleanly.

Dried has less terpenes but produces a more pure resin extraction. about 80% of these batches should dab cleanly, depending on the strain and success of the extraction process.

If you are using buds, break them down to maximize surface area for extraction. You can snip them apart from the stem with scissors, or break them down by hand for dried buds. You want to keep the trichomes pretty much intact, so don’t grind it.

freeze your cannabis material in a large mason jar for at least 18 hours to 36 hours for peak quality. Longer can cause some degradation, ice buildup, or cell wall bursting with fresh material.

freeze your everclear for at least 24 hours before use.

When you are ready to start the extraction process, work quickly to avoid thawing.

Take your mason jar of cannabis and everclear out the freezer. Pour the everclear over the cannabis. you can eyeball the ratio. look at the jar from the side, and fill to half the level of the bud. submerging the buds is too much alcohol. if you are being thrifty, start at one third, and add more if needed. once you mix them together, the bud will look like a lot less.

close the mason jar and make sure it’s watertight. wrap the jar up in a towel to insulate it, this will keep it freezing longer. put the everclear back in the freezer in case you need more.

Shake it as hard as possible. You can agitate it for as little as 30 seconds, or as long as it remains at freezing temperatures. The longer you go, the more essential oils get into the extraction along with the resin. This makes if more medicinal and higher yielding but can dab less cleanly, so try to find a good compromise that works for the resin content and type of resin glands of the material you are using.

You will start to get chlorophyll and water in your extract if it goes above the freezing point of water.

When you are done agitating, filter it into the pyrex using the strainer and one or two coffee filters. more coffee filters reduces plant wax content, I just use one.

I like to filter all the liquid into one pyrex. this will produce the best product.

Then I take the remaining alcohol saturated plant material and filter it into a second pyrex. I use a citrus squeezer thing to get all the liquid out of it. You can also just squeeze it by hand. One of my friends uses a french press coffee maker.

This will yield a greener, slightly lower grade batch than the first filter. Splitting it into two batches gives you a top quality batch for dabbing, and slightly lower grade batch with more essential oils.

And of course, you can always just do one big batch to keep things simple and maximize yields.

I evaporate the alcohol with a fan blowing over the surface, a vented cabinet, or an electric dehumidifier.

make certain there are no fire hazards near the alcohol at any stage in this process.

Do not use heat to speed up evaporation. This will degrade valuable trace cannabinoids and cook off volatile oils and terpenes. This is sometimes done with rick simpson oil (using an induction stove only no flame or exposed heating elements) but it will reduce the quality and flavor of hash.

This recipe has a long history in San Francisco, in the 60’s it was common for people to use this method. I first heard this recipe from an old dealer. People used to dip joint papers in the alcohol infusion and hang them up to dry. Then they would use the papers to make pre-rolls, and sell them on the street. These concentrate soaked joints were called golden joints or scorpions.

@OleReynard @Joker

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This would be another recipe for Green Dragon?
@Mdjammer

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If you used this basic technique but let it soak longer, it would become tincture or green dragon.

If you let it soak longer and evaporated it with heat, it would become rick simpson oil.

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Thank you.

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A quick shake produces golden to red oil last batch I made turned bright red with maybe a 4 min shake .

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See I had a vial turn red but thought it was because it was in the kitchen window.
Amber bottle

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Might be strain related ?

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Was out of the ssdd, dont know squat about what im venturing into next, Tinctures

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Thanks for the continued info

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That’s exactly the way I do it. I used to make wax to smoke in a pipe and have also mad RSO by evaporating in a rice cooker and I use a fan blowing across the top, too.

What is your final step to get it to look like that pick? Are you letting it dry completely and then scraping up the crystalized mass? I usually would let it get close and then scraping it all out into one mass. You can then whip it to get more alcohol out or shape it and it’ll dry out by itself.

I don’t have a dab rig yet so I use my pipe with a load of spent ashes and place a shard on top. If you don’t make it too big it’ll burn it all without slipping through.

Also, like Shishka was saying, you can do a 3-5 minute soak with no shaking at all. Maybe just a light swirl a couple of times and it will come out very clear and golden color more like commercial.

I still haven’t done it enough to figure out how to make a real nice tidy end product. Maybe using a silicon mat to dry it on to be able to break it up…?

Yours looks more like crystalized product. What is your method at the end to get it into the texture you want?

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That’s exactly what I’m doing.

I usually would let it get close and then scraping it all out into one mass. You can then whip it to get more alcohol out or shape it and it’ll dry out by itself.

I tried that recently and got a product that looks more like ice water hash with a taffy like consistency. Almost like a temple ball. You can just barely make out crystalized resin glands.

Maybe using a silicon mat to dry it on to be able to break it up…?

I’m about to try this with parchment paper. The alcohol might soak through, but I figure it’s worth a shot because it would be much easier than scraping it.

Yours looks more like crystalized product. What is your method at the end to get it into the texture you want?

With most batches, after I scrape it up and put it into the jar, it all crystalizes together into one giant crystal.

The color and quality of my batches really just depends on the material, the genetics, and the type of resin glands produced by the plant. They come out very differently depending on the strain.

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Guava f2 F#1 smoke report and bud photos
(seeded with guava bx)

Decent yield. Appealing, elongated kush structure buds. Very frosty.

Very medicinal for pain relief, migraines, and muscle injuries.

The smell is sweet, toasty and herbal. similar to its mother, and similar to its sibling F #2, but they each have thier own unique blend.

Smells like marjoram, turmeric, bread with a nice crust, agave syrup like sweetness, black pepper, dank lakeside vegetation, and occasional hints of skunk, and caramelized onion.

The flavor is sweet and toasty, similar to its mother but much more refined. Very smooth smoke, even seeded. the sinsemilla would be amazing.

Tastes like a nice loaf of italian bread with agave syrup sweetness and caramelized onion notes. There is a smell of turmeric on the exhale, and the flavor is very toasty.

The ambient smoke smells floral, sweet, and oniony. Overall, it is very smooth and mild. This is a sweet onion or cooked caramelized onion smell, not like a raw onion.

The high feels transparent until you suddenly realize you are actually blasted. After about four hours of medication the high tapers off nicely with no other effects associated with the comedown. The medicinal effects last slightly longer than the high which is nice.

Goes very well with more weed.

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