I find thrips a great benefit when breeding, now I select the ones that the thrips leave alone. 
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@zephyr, thank you again for the ethanol hash write up. I just made a batch, and while I have yet to smoke any, it was a spectacularly simple process and yielded way more than I expected. A pint ball jar of trim gave me a couple pencil thickness ropes of nice hash the length of the razor scraper. They are still leaking a bit of alcohol so I’m going to let them sit a bit longer and continue to dry out before I fire one up, I can hardly wait.
Also, it tastes delicious! I nibbled a half a pea sized crumb and it is super fruity, texture is kind of like crumbly natural chewing gum. Curious if it’ll fuck me up? Time will tell haha.
I used 190 proof grain alcohol (Graves brand) and a jar of mixed trim, mostly from my hillbilly fighter. And I was too cheap to buy the long scraper, and used one just like you suggested. Worked great, but I have a lot of experience scraping things so maybe that helped me out haha.
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How long ago did you eat it? Haha. It should do something, right? I know with that RSO, you’re supposed to eat just, like, a grain of rice-sized portion. I think? A half of a pea is about the same size as a grain of rice haha.
Mine’s still sitting on the kitchen table, haven’t scraped it yet (cue the sad trombone). I dunno what I’m gonna do with it yet. I really kind of wanna make a new batch with only one single cultivar. For some reason, not knowing exactly what all was in that jar I used is really bothering me haha.
I agree. Totally easy (except for the scraping haha) and much better yields than I thought there’d be, even from just looking at the pan.
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It did something haha. Pleasantly blissed out, but completely functional. Surprised because most of the time if I have edibles they destroy me. I assume this is processed differently than regular edibles are?
I have a jar of just SSDD that is going next. I wanted to do a trial run on the mixed jar. It is like 90% Hilbilly Fighter though.
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That’s awesome potpotpot I’m glad the process worked well for you.
Oh-hoho yes…
Yeah that raw cannabinoid bliss is my favorite edible high.
Totally different than cooked cannabutter.
Decarbed edibles are kinda my kryptonite, if I overshoot the dosage it literally takes days for my system to clear those activated cannabinoids.
With the raw cannabinoid concentrate, I can take dosages high enough to get the medicinal effect I need without getting uncomfortably high, and without getting a ‘hangover’ waiting for my body to process the cannabiods.
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The clarity was/is the big thing for me. At first I genuinely didn’t know if I was high or just having the best day ever haha. Also the amount I ate, after having sampled it a couple time now, is closer to half a grain of rice. If I ate a half a pea size I would end up on the moon haha.
One interesting thing, I ended up with what amounts to two different grades from one pan. I had set it on slight angle (one end of the pan sitting on a pen) with the intent of coming back to rinse it every so often to rinse it down into the low end of the pan so I had less to scrape. But, I forgot about it and only went in there and agitated it a few time at the beginning, when it was still covering the bottom of the pan. When I did this, you could see some of the sediment on the bottom of the pan kind of roll down into the downhill end of the pan. Then I forgot about it until the next day, and I was totally dry except for the very end of the downhill side of the pan. I scraped the top half, cleaned the scraper off into a pile on the pan, then scraped the bottom half into the tiny amount of alcohol remaining and let it sit some more. The top half ended up a nice glossy not quite translucent little dollop, while the stuff on the downhill end is lighter, but more milky looking, if that make sense. The bottom one of more snappy, the top is gooier. Both are super affective haha.
Also I’ve been dropping little balls of it onto a bed of weed in my bong, as I would do with rosin, and it is exceptional there too. Melts down over the herb and stays just slightly cherries at the edges, dense and smooth smoke, fucking spectacular. Taste/mouthfeel is closer to kif than rosin though.
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What do you mean by “rinsing it down”? Is this some technique that zephyr didn’t make us privy to? Haha. I’m serious, though, I wanna know.
Which grade have you been eating? Just curious.
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The plan was to try to use “clean” alcohol to rinse any resin from the high side of the pan to the low side, just so there would be less area to scrape. I could have sworn I read somewhere in this thread that other people had done this, but I just went back and can’t find it, so maybe I just fucking made it up haha.
I have been eating the milkier batch from the low end of the pan. I’ve smoked a bit of both, they are both very potent when smoked, at least on par with rosin.
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Here’s a really nice batch of nectarine concentrate (ethiopian banana x omg)
made with dried and cured bud that I just finished shucking. (seeded with the 2nd round of open pollination.)
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In general, there is a tendency for the batches to naturally separate into a gooey oil and a keefy or crystalized shatter. As it evaporates, the oil kind of collects on the surface, and the keef sinks to the bottom which results in the different textures from the same batch.
You can see those two different textures in the photo of the batch I just posted.
Nice. I totally agree with your assesments here about the process and the kind of hash it produces. That’s probably my favorite way to use it, although in the past several years I’ve been vaporizing / dabbing and I haven’t smoked much.
It’s been a long time since I’ve done this, but with gooey batches it’s great to totally slather a joint paper and use the hash to seal it.
(When I smoked blunts in college that technique of slathering the wrap with hash and gently melting it together to seal it worked very very well. burned really slowly, hit smooth, and one of those was easily enough to get 6 to 8 people blasted.
And it will hold a blunt together made with a spiral wrap cigarillo or with real leaf tobacco cigars. I used to roll blunts like that with these little cuban hand rolled cigars a friend brought back from an academic trip to cuba.
Now I’m just reminiscing. I was so cool back then lol.)
I have noticed this when the pan isn’t sitting level although not something I have specifically done on purpose.
I was talking about getting two different grades by pouring the liquid off into another pyrex when it starts evaporating more slowly and looking milky (like absynthe with water in it). That’s kind of a similar outcome, the liquid evaporated more slowly on the low side of your pan.
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Continuing with the photos from the last round of ethiopian paintbrush afghani selective breeding.
male #10 x all 3 ethiopian afghani clones
Nectarine (ethiopian banana version)
Male 10
It really appreciates the inter canopy side lighting. They all do, it helps get more even lighting when the plants are tall, close together, or shaded. The cherry is several feet below the canopy of the tallest plants, but still getting enough light.
Cherry
waaay down there
Strawberry
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Hey man how bad is pollen in these type of pollinations, like does it get all over the lung room? Do you run the exhaust?
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continued…
4 days later and they are suddenly full of seeds
nectarine
male 10
for a male plant, he really bulks up
cherry
strawberry
Must have been really high, I went nuts with the dutch angles that day
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I have a solution for that. See that thing covered with a plastic bag in the top left? that’s my carbon filter, it’s disconnected for the pollination because I am using a hepa furnace filter on my exhaust instead. That traps all the pollen.
You can see the inline fan on the top right in some of these pictures, with the filter held on with one of those metal vent fasteners and jankily but effectively taped over the intake for an airtight seal.
MERV 14 or higher furnace filters are effective. Make sure you use the kind of furnace filter that’s backed with sturdy wire mesh so it doesn’t get sucked in. And remember to change your filter after each round of breeding, or as needed when it gets gunked up with pollen.
I also run a hepa air filter in the room to capture any ambient pollen that escapes when the tents are open. It also helps keep the dankness levels to a minimum.
Edit- I also have filters on the passive intakes of all my tents to prevent dust and pollen from getting sucked into the plants. That makes a big difference especially in flowering. it keeps your indoor bud clean. I always see people asking ‘how do I keep dust or dog/cat hair out of my buds’ … that’s how.
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Very cool, thanks!
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Continued…
@methodanon you can see the pollen filter clearly in this photo^
Nectarine
male 10
You can see the resin starting to come in on the sugar leaves in this one. although the leaves are so skinny it’s kind of hard to photograph.
The resin smells like a sweet honeydew melon and chamomile. The stem rub is very woody, hints of old wood glue, with a really nice zingy citrus note.
The resin trait is interesting. Its expression is dependant on the age and maturity of the plant at the onset of flowering. If the plant is old and already past sexual maturity when you flower it, it won’t make much resin and has no stretch. If you flower it at or before sexual maturity, the plant stretches after the lights are flipped as you would expect and produces resin on the sugar leaves when it gets into late flowering.
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Last one I think
nearly a full month after the previous photos, here are all 3 females after the male was chopped
This is the third week of june. They were probably ready at this point.
I let them ripen quite a bit longer, more than I really needed to to make sure the seeds were ripe. I basically just let them hang around, and harvested one whenever I needed another batch of live resin hash haha.
So the plants were flipped on 4/20. Looks like nectarine and strawberry were harvested the first week of July. That’s about 11 weeks (I think, getting pretty dyslexic here). The cherry wasn’t harvested until the first week of August, mainly because I couldn’t deal with trimming or shucking during the July heat wave. That’s about 15 weeks. It was very overripe by then.
So those flowering times are accurate for ripe seeds, but not a benchmark for sinsemilla harvest timing.
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