Bro those stems are wild lol. Elderly plants, awesome.
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Yeah the nectarine and strawberry plants were mothers, they may have been as much as two years old haha if I let them go any longer they probably would have started talking and walking around and shit
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Gawddamnit! Whyyyyy did you have to post all of this tonight? Haha.
I have so many questions/comments, so many things I wanna “quote” and get answers to haha, but I’m fucking BEAT. This job is killing me. “It’s killing us.” (Seinfeld reference, don’t worry about it haha). I just can’t do it tonight, gotta eat and go to bed.
I will say that every time you post a pic of the males you’ve used, for any of your “projects,” I’m always like,”Holy shit…” They always look so, so promising.
Anyway, great posts. I’m gonna come back to this on my next day off, so, you know… Be prepared haha.
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Loved watching your seeding progression, thanks for showing that 
After smoking butts for 50 years, I started dry herb vaping a few years ago, too. Huge difference in the cough quotient, lol! As I got to be a better grower, I was sitting on so much good trim, and I could only use so many cookies and tinctures, I got a little press, and a Honey Badger. I love the rosin (resin? IDK), but the Honey Badger combusts, and can be a little much at times. Do you have a way to dab without combusting?
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I have two suggestions here. One, I have used a Dynavap for flower for a couple years now, those are awesome little vaps. They have a setup to run concentrates, but I have never used it. Might be worth checking out still.
Second, have you ever considered a carbon filtered bong? I have a simple one from Scientific Inhalations, and it was a game changer for me. Mine I just a carbon downstem through water, so a really basic one. They have ones that are pretty complicated and filter through carbon, water, then cotton, but they look like they would clog instantly and I know I can’t be trusted to keep it clean haha. I also have a chillum from them that is carbon then cotton which works a treat too.
I have one just like this:
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The Dyna Vape does look pretty handy. Knowing me, though, that concentrate coil looks like a sticky accident about to happen. 
Cleaning the whole rig is what put me off buying one when I was shopping. I use a Arizer Solo, which I think is great for flower. The only thing to clean is a glass tube, which is real easy to keep track of. The only concentrate I tried in it was hash, which makes a mess.
The Honey Badger is pretty mess free. Just stick the heater in the rosin, and suck. But it is combustion, and takes a bit of practice to heat up just enough… I’m still practicing.
I like bongs, but they don’t like me enough to hang around very long… oh the travails of being a stoner, lol!
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I tried this a few weeks ago wanna get one works great a friend of mine brought one to a festival I went too has a nice hit
While it does take some maintenance and cleaning puffco are amazing for rosin the pro you can control the temp it keeps it a steady even temp making for a great rip best I’ve tried other then a standard rig @HorseBadorites they even have a smaller version called the proxy that’s a bit more of a handheld pipe version
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Yeah I use an enail. It’s a titanium nail + carb cap with a temperature controlled electric coil to vaporize my dabs. I use it with a small locally made bubbler bong from Boro Farms.
For low temp vaporized dabbing, I’m usually in the 370 to 510 degree range. Any higher than that and you’re getting into combustion. *
My enail is from high5 vapes in colorado, it was the reasonably priced made (or at least assembled) in the USA with a decent warranty. It’s lasted 8 years and working perfectly, I needed to replace the coil once. The price from that company has gone up, it was only $90 when I bought mine, but still not bad.
My titanium nail is from highly educated in california made with medical grade titanium (as in titanium certified for surgical instruments).
I’ve heard good things about the puffco products but never tried them. A friend who works for a solventless concentrate company 710 labs in california loves them. Boro farms makes a lot of bubblers that connect to the puffco peak and proxy. So I take that as a pretty good endorsement.
(@minitiger you were asking how I use the concentrates a while back in your thread. I remember you found the look of conventional dab rigs kind of sketchy. maybe you’d enjoy using the puffco proxy that’s probably the most subtle and classy looking one I’ve seen. They say it’s supposed to feel like you’re just smoking out of a normal pipe. Glass blowers make some pretty cool bubblers and sherlock pipe adapters for it.)
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medical cannabis footnote- insights from cancer patients in the local medical community
*or at least reaching temps that will begin to produce combustion byproducts. basically if the temp is high enough to brown something in the oven, you will be getting some combustion byproducts.
Technically, you can vaporize at temps as low as the 300 to 350 degree range. the cannabinoids will be delivered semi-effectively because they are chemically bonded to the terpenes, which volatilize at very low temps. but I only recommend that for serious medical use by cancer patients who need to strictly avoid exposure to carcinogens. They’ll want to safely saturate their body with the greatest quantity and diversity of cannabinoids available to them. Taking edibles, oral rso, raw cannabis juice, and very low temp vaporizing all in conjunction is probably the best method of cannabis use for cancer patients.
For normal medical use, it’s just not satisfying to vape at such low temps and it’s kind of wasteful because it’s not hot enough to vaporize much of the concentrate- really only the terpenes.
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now back to more current updates
I’m finally growing some sinsemilla! I haven’t been smoking flower but maybe some nice fresh sinsemilla will change my mind.
remember this shot of my veg tent?
That nectarine on the front left was growing so aggresively it needed to be flowered. Here it is in the flowering tent, still on the front left.
So here’s the new lineup in the flowering tent on the day the lights were flipped-
2x ethiopian afghani nectarine. One wide branchy bush monster, one tall stretchy christmas tree at the back
ethiopian afghani cherry
and berry larry (goji og x [larry og x gdp])
They’re not perfect, but these plants don’t have it easy they work for a living.
Those big chinese mother plants were cloned, hopefully I get a few rooted clones from everything because I only took 6 of each and the mothers are now gone. usually I don’t do that but I was just too short on space and time, and wouldn’t have been able to maintain the clones and mothers at the same time.
Here they are on their way outside-
CC1
look at these long skinny sativa leaves
and CC2
It will be interesting to see how they do being put outside late season like this, and how it impacts their finishing time. The outdoor ethiopian afghani are preflowered and starting to flower, and the obama kush is flowering.
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Dude, the whole thing weirds me out haha. Concentrates, dab rigs, I just can’t get into it. Gimme some papers and a lighter. Or a bong. Or even a pipe. All that other stuff is way too complicated haha. Anything you have to plug in to use is just weird to me.
Also, why are you posting so much lately?!? Haha. I can’t keep up.
Just kidding, I’m keeping up. Still… You barely ever post and now it’s just this flood haha.
I think it’s cool that you’re still growing that one.
I actually like the look of that one more than the #1, but they both look very intriguing. Even though you already know what they’re like haha.
Anyway, I still have questions about what you wrote yesterday, got the next few days off, so…
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Yeah, and also for how tall he is, right? I think he looks great. This is a male that you’ve used before, correct? He looks familiar haha. Maybe he just looks like another male you’ve used in the past, I dunno.
I really like how you actually make selections, as opposed to just open pollinations and shit. I feel like that’d be how I’d do it, as well (if I ever make seeds haha). Pick the good-looking male(s) and trash everything else. Obviously, nobody ever knows how any male’s gonna breed, but at least use flower formation and flower-to-leaf as a starting point.
Are you talking about that #10 male here? Or just in general?
That picture’s insane. I love it haha.
Alright, I guess I didn’t have as many questions as I thought I did when I read those posts two nights ago. Or maybe I just forgot them haha. Either way, yeah, I love it haha!
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Don’t want to derail your thread any more, so thanks to all for the vape answers. Made me realize I’m pretty happy with what I’ve got Those puff-co’s are crazy!
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It has definitely been a posting marathon haha
I put so much work into that ethiopian afghani breeding project, I think it’s been 2 years working with those plants now, but I only posted highlights of the breeding process. So I wanted to catalog this round of selective breeding to show the flowering cycle from start to finish.
And I wanted to get it all posted quickly so it would be an easy continuous read through the whole project.
Now I’m all caught up. I’ll probably be posting updates of the sinsemilla tent and the outdoor harvest, but they’ll trickle in like usual.
Thanks yeah it’s kind of an understated plant if that makes sense. I doubt people will be particularly impressed by its appearance (unless they were growing og like 10 years ago). The smell is so intense and I just love the high. I’ve enjoyed having this one around. and because it’s a recessive OG expression, it’s worth cloning.
It will be interesting to see what kind of expressions I get in the berry larry f2s. I had a really nice
bodhi style resinous male
so I think they’ll be pretty special and potentially leaning more heavily to the goji side of the genetics.
Most importantly, based on the appearance of that recessive bodhi resin trait, I’m very hopeful about the prospects of finding a lot more of these double recessive og phenos like the #4 where the classic og traits really pop.
It’s funny I have so many packs of seeds in my collection that I still need to grow, and now I have exponentially more seeds that I have created which are also waiting to be grown out.
But I think my future medical needs will be covered thanks to these breeding projects. I have access to these unique medicinal qualities in seed form, and new combinations of the plants that work for me as well.
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Yeah here are some better pictures of him from the second open pollination round:
compare those closeups to that new wide shot:
Yeah this specific #10 male. I flowered an old tired ‘mother’ (father?) plant of him, and it ran out of steam before it got to the stage of producing a lot of resin. It only produced a little bit. So I actually ran this same selective pollination twice. Genetically, there should be no difference. But did it again because I wanted to see the resin express when I made that f2, as visual proof that the trait was in those seeds.
I was thinking about making hash with the male again too, but ultimately the pollen was just too messy.
Here’s the hash I made from this male cut that one time:
That was really cool, I think it gave me a lot of insight into the potential expression of female offspring. The resin smelled like honeydew melon, tasted like very strong chamomile tea, and the high was very clear and clean feeling. Made the most soaring transparent edible high I’ve ever experienced.
Thanks. When I find a strain that has special medicinal qualities that I want to preserve or explore, I usually start with an open pollination to preserve the diversity of the line because I don’t know what other traits are tied to the medicinal attributes I am looking for.
(Of course I always kill anything that herms or any kind of expression that is detrimental like low pollen production. I have definitely found a few sterile male plants, it’s very weird.)
Next I cull the obviously unspectacular males, and repeat. then select my top choice male plant and do a selective pollination with the single best performing male.
But generally I just pick the best one. unless I’m looking for something incredibly specific, or casting a wide net, it’s worth doubling down on single selected male rather than sort through f2 phenos that resemble the unimpressive males.
For the most part I’ve been pleasantly surprised by the results of my open pollinations.
It will be interesting to see how the open pollinated guava b pheno f2 seeds compares to the selected guava b f2 female ix f1 male seeds.
I still haven’t decided exactly how I’m going to handle my male selection for these, but I’m definitely going to cull any totem pole structure males. only bushes or christmas trees will be considered for the f3 guava.
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What seeds do you guys think I should grow next?
I was planning on buddhas hand, prayer tower, and lemon thai.
But I’m thinking maybe it’s a good time to run the holy hand grenade and breed it with the ethiopian afghani females.
I’m definitely crossing these two, they are both heirloom african sativa female x heirloom afghani male. I was surprised bodhi never revisited the ethiopian sister phenos (banana, paintbrush, spider), so I’m betting his decision to release this nigerian hybrid means it’s pretty special.
What would we even call God’s Paintbrush x Holy Hand Grenade?
I’ve never combined two strains with such lofty titles.
Or I could grow my second pack of guava hashplant f1 back to back after the guava f3 breeding. That’s tempting. Although that seems less urgent to the clones I have on hand. I already know my guava f2s are very consistent so I can always go back to seed and reliably find more good phenos there.
edit- now with a poll
- buddhas hand, prayer tower, lemon thai
- holy hand grenade
- guava hashplant f1
- just hurry up and grow out the oldest seeds you have
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First vote in here. Simply voted because I trust your judgement largely and think whatever might be less viable soon should be popped, no? Regardless, I think you’ll do well. Thank you for sharing
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Yeah I was thinking maybe it’s time to start popping anything low viability, look for standout males, or hit all the females I get from that with the epba10 male.
I want to keep that epba 10 male a while longer… the best course of action may be to pop some of the epba10 male hybrids and f2s, and test grow them with the opportunity to make bx’s to the 10 while I’m still running the cut.
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Voted hhg think that could be a way cool combo every hhg I’ve seen posted has looked prehistoric any of those options could be real neat
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And you like that? I thought the first three Gojis I grew like eight years ago were better than the second two or three I grew a few years later. The first round looked wayyyyyyy different than the second, too. Smelled different, tasted different, different high etc etc.
Mhm, yeah, I knew I recognized him… haha. He really is a very good-looking plant, pretty much shits on these ridiculous pics of males that people post, where you look at them and think,”Why are you even bothering with that…?”
Right. I wasn’t saying that there’s anything “wrong” with those or whatever, but at some point I feel like people need to get a grip and maybe consider that not every-fucking-thing needs to be open-pollinated. Maybe consider the larger picture and all that.
I didn’t vote for that one, didn’t vote for anything (maybe after I post this response haha), but you know… Those Lemon Thais… I don’t think I need to elaborate haha.
Just kidding, I honestly don’t care if you ever grow those seeds I sent you. You did me a favor by helping me thin out my fridge, even if it was only five or six. Still have way too many…
Not that I think Picasso was “God” or anything, I like a lot of painters a lot more, but the answer is obvious: Guernica haha. I mean… Paintbrush. Hand grenade. Paint. War. How could it be called anything other than Guernica?
I actually am gonna go vote for the Hand Grenade, just because I do think your plan to cross it to the Ethiopian sounds like a good and intriguing idea. You might as well get started on that ASAP haha.
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