ahahaha, small world @50State . I used to get some great smelly Freezeland in London, coming out of Quebec. This would be early 2000’s I think?
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I know and its been verified that Rasta Jeff of Irie Seeds, created a strain called “Arise”, and it regularily hits 30%. It is a Golden Goat clone only outcrossed to something else
I think he said high as about 33% tested.
RebelGrown’s Chemdogs are said to produce 30%. Their Double OG Chem line has some winners Ive heard.
Kevin Jodrey recommended this before, and I know they have a male from that line they do breeding work with.
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I little off topic but when you press rosin from bud it gives you a good measure of overall potency and quality… I just picked up some local GG#4 and it was only able to to produce 2 grams of rosin for 14 grams of bud whereas my last run of the PaintedFires GH x C99 i was able to get 4.25 grams of rosin from 14 grams of weed… And without question the GHxC99 is way more potent… Now we have also picked up dispensary bud that was tested and rated at 28% that barely did 2 grams per 14…the GHxC99 blow it away obviously … Where I am going here is that I am not sure how much weight to put in measured THC claims, how much rosin it produces tells you more about how much good stuff is in a specific bud…
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Some of the best rosin making plants would not get a second look in most dispensaries. People are all hooked on thc lab numbers as a way to quantify a quality experience. Thats not really how it works tho. Untill we all learn otherwise, this is the way the market sells and people buy, by lab numbers instead of the experience.
The quality of the experience is what counts. That can come from a 16% thc cut. Science has only recently got its hands on cannabis and we dont quite know yet what all goes into making a quality of experience. Terpenes and grower inputs can seem to change a cultivar’s effect also. You just know when its special.
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I’m pretty sure I had some MAC that was tested out at 35% grown by snaxland
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I also grew @paintedfire420 ghxc99 and it was the highest percent resin producer for me. I too was getting 30% returns squishing 14g each time. Such a great smoke. I miss it and will be running again.
I’ve learned how important moisture content is in the bud when pressing. I shoot for 62 - 65%. Also different heat, pressure, and time settings can change the return numbers.
I’m just not sure how much of the extra weight from the gushy strains is actual cannabinoid content. But it’s the only way I have to tell how frosty different strains are.
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I believe that there is an extremely strong relation between rosin content and potency…the more rosin the more potent the weed… I can even see the difference between a good crop and a bad crop by rosin production .
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one of the first dispensaries I went to the guy told me dont go based on percentages and I totally agree. I’ve had stuff that tests out in the teens give a better high and longer lasting than something in the mid twenties
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Wifi and Wifi OG are different. The latter has a better taste. They are about the same potency.
A store I used to go to had both and they were definitely different in taste. Both tested at about 29%
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Apologies if its already been mentioned, Mass Medical says he had a cut of Prayer Pupil that tested at 33%.
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White Fire, White Fire OG, along with the abbreviated names WiFi or WiFi OG are all made from the same genetics… Fire OG x The White.
It mostly depends on where you’re at that will determine what name it goes by.
If we both grew a clone of this plant from the same mother, they would most likely turn out to be much different, due to different atmosphere/environment, different growing methods/styles, different nutrient formulations given to the plant.
There are other factors to consider, however, in my over all growing experience, plant environment, grow method and cation exchange/nutrient absorbtion are what create the most diversity among same-plant clones.
Phenotypes are expected to have a level of diversity, that’s why we pheno hunt.
When we talk about clones, all we can be sure of is that they will be a genetic duplicate of the host plant. The way you choose to grow that plant will determine it’s outcome in appearance, fragrance and effect.
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Posted this before, but not here…
Eastside OG with 38.1% THC
https://ogmedicinals.com/cannabis/east-side-og-montbello-co/
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This topic name is actually a little misleading.
I am not aware of ANY strains that test out at 30%THC or higher, consistently every time, and with every pheno grown.
It’s more like seeds are grown out, phenos are chosen and tested and the absolute highest testing pheno gets picked to represent the cross as a whole.
This is the type of thing that creates “hype” about certain crosses/strains… only reporting and discussing the absolute highest THC% found, no information about any other phenos tested, and making it seem like every pheno has the potential to test at that level.
Is that a fair claim that supports the cross as a whole, or does it only support the phenotype tested?
To me personally, an average THC%, along with the high and low THC% gives me a real indication of what to expect from that cross/strain. To me, a breeder only putting out their highest percentage found is misleading to consumers. It sets an expectation that may not be able to be replicated by the average grower.
There is no uniformity with F1’s, but there will be a lot of diversity within any given cross that creates F1 offspring. Strong phenos will always be able to be found in any given cross, but should they represent the whole cross or should they be used as a high point for the cross?
I would personally love to see a cross/strain that tests at a consistent 30%THC or better, but right now, that’s still a pipe dream.
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I think part of the problem is that people selling seeds as F1s aren’t really selling F1s to begin with. Assuming you start with 2 parents that are fairly homozygous, you should actually get a lot of consistency in F1. F1 plants should show all of the dominant traits, and only “like” recessive traits.
But in the seed market, people call poly x poly F1, and then you’re mixing in a lot of heterozygous traits, which create children with both dominant and recessive traits. So this is probably what creates a spread in chemotypes, some of which have high THC.
@Sebring made a good informative post about this a while back:
With some, this might even be intentional. I remember reading arguments for and against the idea of “just cross elite with elite”. I think in clone world, pheno hunting a large set of mostly high THC seeds is not a bad thing. But if you’re selling seeds based on this process, it becomes pretty questionable what you’re actually selling your customers. 100 seeds creates 100 phenos, so in that context, are you even selling a strain?
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“the white” and white fire og came before the wifi. People initially said wifi was white fire og, but the buds were never similar at all. when it came out I was pretty sure the wifi was a different strain.
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There needs to be some sort of standardization when it comes to this at some point. For breed standards from seed vs naming a pheno/ clone only strain. like it’s ok to call it a cross of A x B parent strains when selling seeds, but until it’s stabilized and breeds true from seed, then they really shouldn’t give it a name on itself yet. While Cultivators and nurseries are pushing out clones of a given name That are patented/trademarked. It’s going to have to fall in line with the agricultural standards at some point, but it’s all the Wild West right now.
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Haha we would benefit from standards, but I don’t think that’ll ever happen (on the grey market). The way things are, you can literally sell whatever you want as whatever you want. You can say your “strain” is magical fairy dust crossed to unicorns and tests at 173% THC. And for all practical purposes, that’s no less honest than some of what is being sold. It’s the wild west out there, and reputation is the only thing to provide any sort of standard. And even that could be manufactured.
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Exactly, plus with all the pollen chickens out there making profit off F1s from crosses of premium brands, at what point would a trademark end?
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that is why there are “elite” clones because they are consistent
Wifi # 43 , GG # 4 , MAC 1, Trainwreck arcata cut etc. etc.
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