I really think you are jumping to conclusions too quickly.
You donât have any first-hand experience with the breeder but have chosen to criticize him and even all other non-specified breeders by saying âThe good old days when breeders were good.â.
I donât think this is fair to our long-time sponsor or his new partner, Exotic Alchemy.
Would you agree?
Iâd prefer to move this off-topic part out of this topic and give him a chance instead of steering the discussion in the wrong direction. It is a valid discussion to have in a more general category, such as Breeder's Lab, and it does not necessarily need to be tied to any particular company.
No worries my friend and I didnât mean anything personal, I agree with all of the things youâre asking for in terms of data points. To be clear, I donât know EA but I have asked him questions over the years and heâs always been helpful and generous, the guy tries to give me seeds all the time lol. But it seemed like your response and those that followed were really trashing the guy and the seedbank, most having limited to no experience with either and thatâs an ugly look. Weâre supposed to be a community that uplifts and supports, so I just saw an unfair narrative being pushed. GLG and Exotic Alchemy are putting their time and money into making genetics available and if you had been working your seeds for years and then finally got carried by a new seedbank, it would be a huge bummer to have a couple people come out critical and a group pile on, all with no experience. Also for new growers, these genetics are a cheap way for people to get access to heirlooms that can take years of making friends otherwise. The more people growing potent heirlooms instead of just chucking Gelato work to Gelato work ad nauseum, the better off we all are.
Thatâs what I was about to say, most breeders share their work on IG . If anyone is curious about a breeders work but donât know where to look, that tends to be the default these days as thereâs been a shift away from forums over the last 10+ years. Anytime I felt a seedbank didnât have enough info, I just check IG, works most times.
Theyâve been around for awhile now. I bought half their gear off soaknbeans a couple years back.
The Chocolate Thai is drawohâs.
Everything they have, as far as I can find/see, is legit. The lamsbread and other landrace stuff shouldnât be any different or worse than the freaker runs đ€·
People talking shit about Exotic Alchemy is hilarious and shows how much they actually know about breeders who matter. And faulting GLG for carrying a variety of breeders is wrong.
This description for Chocolate Thai has a higher word count than all of Bodhiâs strains combined I donât see this ânot descriptiveâ criticism directed at Bodhi either.
Obv the descriptions can be super helpful. But I also think the onus is on the customer to seek out info when there isnât much to go from in the listing.
Also - arenât the listings & prices determined by the breeders? So if thereâs not much info on the strain⊠thatâs because the breeder didnât provide it. And if the price is crazy⊠thatâs because the breeder set it. So it seems weird to me to criticize the seed bank for this stuff.
I ask for their logo , a brief description about their business and their goals.
I send them a template to fill out to Provide you folks with all of the information you were asking for and deserve.
I ask for the best descriptions they could give me and I can take up to eight photos per strain and display them.
I tell them the better, the pictures and the better the descriptions, the better their sales will be.
I was requiring this information and ended up losing several good breeders that just went to other banks that did not require it. Please ask your breeders to give you more information and I will be glad to post it.
For shits & giggles, is that alarming to you?
I understand youâre more focused on the business side of things, so that does suck for the deal to fall throughâŠ
But sheesh. As a consumer, thatâs worries me. For the most famous guys (i.e Bodhi, CSI, etc) I can stomach their minimal descriptions because AT LEAST they curate their instagrams &/or drop tidbits of info on forums, podcasts, or in comments.
But as a unknown to the wider community, to ghost the distributer thatâs supposed to help you make $ just because you donât want to write out a simple sentence about your overpriced (supposed) passion-projectsâŠ. yikes
There was one sponsor or two that were rude so we either reverse engineered their shit/stated facts etc or used them as satire in a separate areaâŠi dont get the trend of shiting on sponsors for random shit without much documentation.
Its seeds.
Oh you made seeds meant to be free so ima tell on youâŠ
Wtf? Twilight zone
OK just for shits and gigglesâs. Have you ever used GLG?
And to make my point I just got Top Dawg Genetics to let me sell his gear. I have been having people ask me over and over to get him on my site.
There are roughly 75 strains I have to pick from. I picked about 30 of them right before 420. Half of them sold out. Although I did ask for pictures and descriptions, I did not get any.
But my customers are very very happy.
I donât know if you know who Top Dawg is.
But I have had a lot of respect for them for a long, long time. And I made some awesome freebies with their genetics. And love the smoke.
Should I have not brought him on the site? You tell me.
Thanks DBJ