Hmm, I am wondering if maybe too much silver may have caused this reaction, you are right it does look like a wound. ? Also like you I also wonder how much is getting into the plants system like that… there looks to me like a motza of silver there, far out I am amazed that you have not seen any result!
I also don’t know enough about how the phloem bundles take up things from a hollow stem, it could be that injection into the hollow does’t work and the effect I have been getting is because I have got some into the wood in the process, The first plant I tried this on was hollow and it turned so who knows bro…
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Thank you for the pic.
can you describe roughly the size / structure of plant and where you injected? (also dosage and strength if you have the info?) was the plant growing standard free upright or something else (position and angle of the injection point)
Thank you for sharing this technique !!
can you describe roughly the size / structure of plant and where you injected? (also dosage and strength if you have the info?) . was the plant growing standard free upright or something else (position and angle of the injection point)
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This technique sounds very very interesting and I do hope we can iron out the kinks.
I can already take away that one should test this on a limb that is sacrificiable without the loss of entire plant (as opposed to injecting to or very close to main stem)
Any idea how can I measure the strength of DIY stuff? (old plan was to spray … in that stronger is usually better and AFAIK no real danger of killing the plant). … btw … any water is usable when DIY spray stuff …should I add something like salts to distilled water when I plan to inject into plant - and how much? I recall that (when water goes into human tissue ) it should have tiny bit of salts (1%? solution) inorder to avoid dehydrating or over hydrating (burst) cells.
Sorry if text is not well structured / goes rambling… More stuff popped up as I wrote this … Great collaboration going on here …
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20 days from first injection, she should do ok if I don’t keep forgetting to water her.
Hopefully some seeds come of it.
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That looks to have taken nicely. Is that from injection alone or spray, too?
What strain is that? I wonder if that plays into it as well? peace
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Nice, now to see if they are producing viable pollen, if you pluck one off and rub it between your fingers and get some pollen out then hopefully it should be viable.
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Injection only on a Black Domina #2 X Jungle Spice from @lefthandseeds.
2 injections, one 6 days after the first but I’m sure just the first injection would have worked.
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Well opposite result for me, a big no go so much so i removed the plant today as it wasn’t turning.
Here was one of the buds on the silver nitrate plant and day 22, straight girl bits, injected the plant at 4 different times in multiple locations all over the plant but the lower and main stems only being the spots where injections were actually possible.
So @slain how many plants have you actually reversed using only this method ? Like independently and specifics behind it we need to know, cause if all your plants were also been sprayed with STS or CS at some point even once then that would make the test invalid… I’ve gone back through the thread a couple times but just rereading you mention STS quite a bit as a just in case option, and well if that the case then why even do injections if STS is needed to trigger ?
Also so far from what i’m seeing with the cauterizing like effect i would definitely not be injecting a plant that’s being revegged don’t know how that could “speed things up”, what were your trials to prove/show a difference ? Like can you rule out environmental and plant difference with that what did you try?
@Pedro_Bann your plant you say two injections 20 days ago but 6 days apart, what were the specifics of your injections ? such as injection site location, how you did it, how much, specific concentration of the solution and you also said the pollen sacs showed up on a completely different branch but yet the others aren’t showing any signs yet ?
Saying that personally on my tests im leaning that my silver nitrate solution is too high for at least the new/fresh growth whereas maybe for you two with using revegged plants they may need a bit more bite per say due to the wood stems.
Counter note my CS sprayed bud which ive only been doing once a day is starting to show pollen sacs, and just from experience my spraying could of been better and more of it “twice a day” for more absorption of the silver, but i wanted to do just once a day as a comparison cause is was started later so i wanted to see if it could catch up even if sprayed at a lesser amount.
Anyways CS sprayed bud 12days into spraying at one spray a day but liberal dousing of the bud when sprayed.
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Lol well this is where my stoner memory and lack of documentation come back to bite me 
Alright so I have successfully reversed three separate plants now with this approach, 2 NYCDXOG Kush and one Tangie/Haze…
With the first plant I tested on the Tangie/Haze, I had no idea how long it might take and so I waited for several weeks (about approx how long spray might take) and then when I hadn’t seen anything I sprayed it one time only with STS, if I somewhere mentioned CS then it was in error, I haven’t used CS at all for this proccess. About a week or so later balls appeared, the Tangie/Haze was grown in a mini dwc tub… With this first attempt, although I had some lingering doubt, I reasoned that I had never had a plant reverse from a single spray of STS before so something had to be going on right?
The only other difference with the Tangie/Haze is that it was from regular seeds, so not knowing if it was going to be male/female I waited till it showed before I injected it. This is probably a week or two LATER than I would normaly start spraying with STS.
Of course there was also the very small chance that this initial plant was a hermie… so for the next test the NYCD/OGK were both FEM seeds and one was put in Coco/perlite, and the other in the DWC, more or less to see if this made any difference. the one that was in DWC initially showed a few pistlis, and then became entirely pollen sacs, so not a single pistil left on to even seed itself!
The plant put into coco was a lot more woody and more difficult to inject and took AGES to show balls. I thought it had failed until I took it out to take a photo and noticed the a couple of balls… over the next week it grew more, though nothing like the other one. I also wanted to test to make sure the pollen was viable so I whacked a tangie fem clone in with it and it is currently covered in seed.
BOTH of the NYCD plants reversed without them being sprayed with any additional STS at all but because I had sprayed my inital Tangie/Haze test plant the one time and balls had showed up pretty well immediately I guess I was curious to see it might have the same result if anyone else did the same…
Well I think I can discount environment, but I can’t discount plant variation… initially I had a couple of tangie that I had flowered, got a pheno that was a cracker and somehow didn’t manage to get a clone or have any pollen handy… so in desperation I injected it hoping maybe it might throw balls and self seed… and bumped the light up to 14 hrs… instead of throwing balls it started popping out new growth tips from the few remaining bits of bud I had left on it… what got me is how fast it seemed to produce the new growth tips, as in within a week it was in veg mode and not the typical super shrubby veg you mostly get from reveg either but long stemy growth…
So anyway I thought I would test it again on 1 of the 2 Sky-walker OG I had just chopped, they are sitting side by side in the same DWC tent though they ARE different phenos that is true… next time I try I will do it on two clones side by side…
really I hardly ever reveg so this is more of a curiosity for me that anything else…
I’ll run another test on the injection in my next seed run and document things with a bit more effort…
My only thoughts on this is that perhaps because the silver inhibits the ethylene and therefor flowering that it acts as a kind of hormonal reset if done just prior or just after chop and giving them more light… I guess it would have to take time for the plant to naturally adjust it’s hormone levels whenever it goes from 118/6 or 12/12 or vice versa so…
Just speculation though and most def needs testing with more rigour than my couple of reveg tests.
I need to chop open my stems to have a look and see if they have been burnt like yours have ended up with…
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I will do a bit of a write up a bit later and try to get the appropriate pics together.
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My first try was on an auto that had already started flowering, the one injection did not work in any way although it looked to slow growth.
The second attempt was on a photoperiod plant. the tallest branch was injected with a 200 microgram solution at around the 3rd internode from the top, this slowed growth in that branch but other than that I could not see any changes 6 days later so I gave it another injection, this injection was the same dose as the first but a two or three internodes above the first.
The plant was injected here first 24 days ago.
Then here 6 days later
And the most of the male flowers arrived on a different branch.
Only a few turned up on the branch that was injected.
It’s a nice plant I hope I do get seeds from this trial.
Hopefully this adds some useful information to the collaboration.
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Not sure if anyone has tried this or if it would even be worth trying. But what if you were to ‘crush’ the stem of the branch you’re trying to inject, before injecting. Would the CS be able to be absorbed easier if the plant was already going into repair mode (due to the stem crushing) just prior to injection?
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Hmmm might be worth a try… for my money the variability has to be about where the injection puts the silver solution, I am beginnign to suspect that between the bark and wood is probably the go… I have male plants spoofing everywhere at moment so when these are done I’ll try reversing a couple more so it can hopefully be nailed down…
Is there yellow powdery pollen in the male flowers?
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Not entirely sure, there’s none on the leaves below them but I did squish one the other day and had some yellow on my fingers. I just give her a shake when I remember to water her just In case.
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It sure does, mate. Thanks for posting.
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Under the bark is my next trial, as I believe that’s where most liquid is transported up via transpiration?
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Yep, good stuff. I’m watching and learning. This would be such a nice technique if we could get it nailed down. I’ll work toward getting some solution in my house as soon as I can so I can help in figuring it out. I sure have some seeds with limited numbers, fems, and it’d be great to know I could safely risk those two or three seeds on making new ones. Best vibes!
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I’m still confused at when you should inject? Would you inject about one week before turning lights to 12/12 or wait till after the female flowers start to show? I’m about two weeks before putting the plant I want to inject into 12/12
I want to try this but can’t bring myself to buy syringes at a local pharmacy. Where’d y’all get yours?
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We have clinics that give free needles to addicts. Was gonna go in and ask for a couple “for a friend”…lol. probably get em on Amazon.
Also, where do we inject?
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I got mine off of wish for the same reason lol… free just pay shipping 10 pack
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