Hey bud! I’m happy ,to be able, to let you see your babies grow up. They’ve definitely been cool little plants to grow. They are at 63 days today. I’m also awful about keeping track of things. Thankfully I took a picture when I put them in the paper towel. I plan on giving them a few more days while my other plants finish vegging. I’ll post a few more pics before harvest and leave a smoke report. Thanks again for the seeds!
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@Banquo these are looking amazing!! I’m reversing a blackstrap auto clone I took at the moment! It’s exciting! If anything comes of it, maybe we can trade some? I’m hoping for some s1 and then I’m going to try to cross with a few others I have going too. (Strawberry nuggets x CDLC, (double grape x 3bog) x CDLC, and Ewok x CDLC) all crossed w blackstrap. The blackstrap mom is crazy tough. She’s been broken in half main stalk, several branches have been broken and taped up, she just kept going and busted thru the tape bandaids lol she didn’t start flower until week 6 (I think- I’d have to go back and look) and she’s huge! U can check out my journal if you’d like? I can use all the experienced growers I can find lol
Here’s my journal if you want to check it out
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Skimmed through some text posts and took some looks at the pics you’ve shared. That Blackstrap is tough as nails, and I’m really impressed it cloned so well. I would LOVE TO trade for some S1 seed from her, and/or any of her out-crosses. I was on the fence about ordering some Blackstrap (ANOTHER Cookies variant??? 
), but I’m seeing now that there is potential beyond just the beautiful colors she shows off. I’ve seen a couple people share pics of some really big, yet still well formed, Blackstrap plants. So, naturally, now I’m kicking myself for not grabbing a pack when they were still under the Mandalorian branding
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Dam those Pentagrams looks steller
Just beautiful the structure such a great cross you created .
@VAkish
@Banquo
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Preach! Lol! They have crossed cookies w every damn thang!! 
Not gonna lie tho, I got it for the purple hues. I also have some anvil! I haven’t grown that yet but I did send one to basementbeans along w sour crack (meph) and purple pope (night owl). He’s going to be doing some crosses soon. 
I can’t wait to see what he comes up with 
I just took some strawberry nuggets x CDLC & sour crack clones a few days ago. Haven’t posted them yet. I’m waiting to see if I can even get them to root.
You actually sent me a pack of the pentagrams this summer! I haven’t grown them out yet bc I’m not confident in my sexing skills and have very limited room but I will soon! For sure!
I wrote your name down so when/if I get some seeds out of these, I’ll hit you up and we can trade it’s so much better crossing these awesome genetics than having to buy a 3pk for $50!! We can get more variety without going broke and it’s FUN as hell 
wish me luck
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I thought you were one of the people that spoke up when I did the little Pentagram giveaway, but wasn’t certain. No rush getting them sprouted, it’s not an official project. Yet.
You ain’t lyin. I have so many vials in my collection with just 1-2 beans in them, waiting for me to take the initiative and start learning how to do reversals. I will seriously put a dent in these seed distributors bottom line when I start making fem repros. I’d really like to start with the Sour Diesel autos I have from DinaFem, then try my luck with something newer like Queens Banner. I’ve read nothing but good about that DinaFem Sour D., so I’d love to preserve it and pass it around.
I’ll check in on your thread when I see it pop up in my feed. I love what you’re doing in your rig, especially the cloning with autos. I’m a huge goofball for autoflowers. I really love this awesome little plant, and I want to see where it goes over the next year or so. I want to believe Jeff Lowenfels when he said that autoflowers are the next cherry tomato plant, and we will be buying autoflower seeds in the store just like we buy ornamental flower seeds now. They’ll be just another plant for the garden. I want to see that happen 
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Update time! I just realized that most of my activity here over the past week has been replies to others posts here. I mean… hey. At least I’m replying? I gotta check in more often, if only for that purpose.
Non-project group is moving right along. Nothing crazy looking or super vigorous, and thankfully no issues. Everyone is making their 3rd sets now, I think. They will probably get their first real drink today, and they’ll be fed too. I’ve noticed that they’ve more or less stopped progressing over the past 24 hours, so I think it’s time. I will be giving them just 1.5 grams of Mega Crop 1-part base nutrients, a couple mL of SLF-100 to boost enzyme levels around the roots, and a couple mL of calmag.
Project group is only gonna be 5 plants I think. 1 of the 4 Spotted Limes F2 beans cracked and shot a tail, but never sprouted. I have another Pink Panama CBG soaking in wet paper towel, but today is day 4 of that and still no cracking. I didn’t do the usual 24 hour soak in RO water before the paper towel, so maybe it needs another day or so. And at this point, like a week in or whatever, it’s gonna be too far behind to be of any use for breeding. Maybe not. Maybe I’ll luck out and get a super fast female and she’ll catch up. I’ll work with what I’ve got if she doesn’t.
The 2 PPCBG that are standing already look very similar to one another. Their first true leaves are very narrow too, which I’m excited for. I’m a leaf-geek. The 3 Spotted Limes F2 babies are moving slowly, but they’re moving. I think the super low RH in my house is probably holding all my sprouts back, but it’s what I’ve got to work with. I’m working on a remedy, but it won’t be soon enough to help this run.
Conditions overall are pretty good. I’ve been able to keep it warm in there the past few days, surprisingly, and haven’t let it dip below 75-76. I’m doing this run with 24 hours light, so there is no light/dark swings. I honestly can’t even tell you what caused me to make the decision to run constant light for this run, and I have put some thought to it. I guess maybe I’m finally comfortable enough to try doing something different just to see what happens? I know for sure a year ago I wouldn’t have even contemplated a constant light run, and may not do it again after this one. I believe there is some truth to plants “sleep” cycle.
Any Twisted Tree Autoflowers fans here? If so, JimmyJacks will be dropped this Friday (21st), I just got word from Willow. If you aren’t familiar with them, maybe take a look. They have some FIRE autos, and they aren’t constantly sold out of every single strain on their menu. For them a “drop” is just adding a new strain to the site. When it sells out, they make more and restock. This upcoming drop will be a limited number of packs, but it won’t be gone forever when they sell out. She said it’s kinda like MAC in that it doesn’t like to take pollen and make seeds, so they only produced a limited number. Willow said they wanted to go ahead and release the seeds they do have though, because it’s so terpy, and insanely resinous. Obviously I’ll grab some, so if you wanna check it out without making the investment, lemme know. 
Well dang. That went on longer than I meant for it to. Ha. Big surprise, right? Imagine being IRL friends and knowing this could happen at any time, face to face. Yikes. 
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I recently started my first auto run, and of course I had to ask the very same question. 
I ended up settling on 24-hour light for the first few weeks, then switching over to 18/6 or so because that coincides with my veg room schedule and other plants needed rearranging. I’ll probably keep them on 18/6 since, as the thread suggests, there doesn’t turn out to be much difference other than the electric bill. Lots of people with experience and opinions, though, if you want to read up. 
OMG! A limited edition seed drop? That must mean they’re special, I must have them! Oh, wait, there’ll be another fifty limited editions of various new crosses by next week, and they should all be labeled “anonymous F2 polyhybrid with good parents and grandparents.” Step right up and get your ticket for the pheno hunt. 
Not that there’s anything wrong with pheno hunting, just tough to get excited over it or want to pay good money for the opportunity. I’d rather hunt through your Pentagram or other homemade polyhybrids instead.
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You speak the truth! I can’t argue anything you said, not that I’d want to, I’m of the same opinions for the most part. One of the things I’m happy about being a consequence (more like a reward in this case, for me) of getting away from almost all social media platforms, is not having to see the constant stream of untested hybrid crosses being SOLD for ungodly prices. To be clear, I am obviously NOT against hybrid crosses. I love them and will keep making them until there’s no strains left to make them with. And I am totally all for sharing these hybrids with as many people as I possibly can, as gifts or bonus beans included with a trade. But what I do not like, and will avoid supporting, is crossing every new strain with one another and then selling those seeds, untested, at the same or even higher prices as tried and true genetics of equal or greater caliber. I’ll trade for them or accept them as gifts, but I can’t justify spending my limited funds on what amounts to a crapshoot. I’m not a gambler.
And in the interest of time and sanity, I won’t go into how infuriating it is to watch someone, like on Reddit or something, who is literally on their first grow, running a super budget grow, go spend more on 5 seeds than they did their entire rig, only to have 2 of 5 not even pop, 1 dampens off, and the remaining 2 look like they came from completely different parents. Like, first, lemme just reach through the screen and slap the spit outta your mouth for even buying those seeds for your first run. Next lemme at the SOB who helped you build out your rig. Then I’m gonna go after the “breeder” who made those seeds that you shouldn’t have bought, probably with stolen or questionable at best genetics, and go off a trollolololol’ing with my army of bogus IG accounts. That’s what my inner “white knight” wants to do, but the other 99% of my self knows it’s a horrible idea that will only bring me pain and frustration.
So instead I’ll make it my mission to repro and give away as many of these overpriced genetics as I possibly can. Maybe after a few years I’ll have given away enough seeds to feel like I accomplished something.
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One more quick update for today. I started some more seeds soaking for the project group. I swapped some reg auto beans with a member here a couple months ago, and one of the things she sent me is Double Grape x Sour 60. So I have 3 of these soaking now. I’m looking to find an auto that reliably finishes in under 65 days, and I’d probably try to do a backflip if I could get it down under 60 days. So I’m stoked to run these and see how fast they move. If they’re super speedy I might use them and make some fast hybrids with the PPCBG and/or Spotted Limes, or that still unnamed reg auto in the non-project group. I’ll have to take some pics today. That little plant has some super broad leaves already. I’m diggin it 
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I’m not an auto guy but these Pentagrams might be changing my mind. Lol. I had fun growing these little girls. They have 2 more days to live before I gotta chop them. My other plants are starting to take over the room and I need to flip them to flower. It’s been a pleasure to grow them and thanks again for the seeds!
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That red plant is breathtaking. I can’t stop looking at that picture. I never imagined something so beautiful would or could come from anything tied to the Space Wiz project, especially crossing in with something from a big name breeder. I’m certain that this is the product of the “red pheno” Double Grape in her lineage. I really did not expect something this beautiful from the Pentagram project. Unbelievable. Thank you. If you ever want some more Pentagram seeds, or if you ever want to give Space Wiz (pollen to make Pentagram came from a Space Wiz male) a run, let me know and I’ll make sure you get some beans.
And please don’t be a stranger over here. Even if you don’t have anything to say, drop by now and then and see what I’ve got in the works. I do have a couple photo and photo-to-auto projects on the horizon. I’m most excited for the p2a project, but it’s still just some F1 seeds, so it’ll be a bit of work yet. But at least it’ll get faster each run on the way to full auto 
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Not sure how it happened, but I totally forgot about those seeds I had soaking, and wasted them. The seed hulls got really soft, almost like jelly, and the little root tails were turning brown. I think I drowned them. 
So I started some of my Space Wiz beans soaking last night to go into the 3 containers I prepared a few days ago. I’ve got fingers crossed for all females, since I’ve never smoked flower from this strain. The resin from the seed moms was fire, but it’s not the same as packing a bowl or smoking a joint.
After this though, I gotta stop popping seeds for a little while. I already think I’m gonna be having issues trying to fit 14 one gallon pots in my 2x4… I will fire up the 2x2 once I have males showing sex, but for now it’s more economical to just run everybody under the big light. Once the males are done doing their thing and have been composted, I might go ahead and start some photos in the 2x2 and let them veg for a couple weeks while the seed moms finish up in the 2x4.
Which leads to my idea for the next run. I want to run this Peanut Buttet Breath S1 again so friggin bad. It was such a dank smoke. And I have a PBB hybrid cross I might run alongside it, Black Lemon Cake x PBB. It gets really dark, almost black looking, and all the resin on those dark leaves and flowers looks really pretty. And then I dunno what else I’d run with then. I still have the freebie given to me from when I ordered Dr. Grinspoon seeds. Attitude Seed Bank sent G13 x Blueberry Headband from Garden of Green, and some other thing I gave away, as freebies. I also have a single Wedding Cake seed from PEV Seeds that I don’t know if it’s auto or photo. And then there’s the Super Silver Sour Diesel… OMG that’s it. That’s the one. Yeaaaaahhhh. I totally forgot that I DID manage to score some of those in a trade. Awwwww yeah.
Pictures of what’s happening now will be up in a day or two. Everybody is looking happy after their first dose of nutes. Only trouble so far is that I can not manage to get the RH above 35% in there. My house gets so dang dry in the winter time.
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All 3 of the Space Wiz F2s that I had soaking have cracked already, so they’re in paper towel until later today when I have time to get them planted. I’m really excited to see what turns up from these 3 seeds. When I ran the F1s, I didn’t really get to see the potential because I was so focused on just getting mature seeds from them. I didn’t even remove fan leaves. And I harvested them at exactly 30 days after pollination. Soooooo, yeah.
I’m really going to try and document these plants thoroughly. I need to start compiling data on this strain and stop being so lazy if I ever want to truly get it “out there”. Nobody is going to devote time, resources, and space to my projects if I can’t give them any information on something I’ve supposedly spent time and effort on to work to F4 or further. So if you’re a regular here, please don’t hesitate to tell me I need to drop an update, even if it’s just for Space Wiz. I gotta stop being so lazy.
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I was sure you did reversals! 
I even have your OG name written down somewhere on one of my tds/ph charts yes, I have an SOS list for emergencies 
I was nervous to try it myself! These 3 packs of “limited” high dollar strains are enough to give anyone pause! what happens if I’m not successful and I’ve wasted a third of that strain plus I don’t have much space… @BasementBeans really has my back tho! He let me send him 1 bean of a few different strains that he’s crossing for me! It really helped ease my anxiety knowing that even if I failed I would still have some coming from him. He gets some different strains to play with and f1s to add to his arsenal but the weight he took off my shoulders is priceless I’m so grateful 
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Yesss! I have the same issue. Usually helps a lot if I turn off the ventilation. And if I have one in veg 3weeks along to transpire and raise that humidity for the babies it really helps. It’s just now starting to get cold cold here.
That reminds me of a strain I saw somewhere and almost ordered. Now I can’t find it in stock 
How long does it take you to sex them? I’m getting ready to try a photo reg run. My main worry is space so any help I can get, I’m taking it lol
I’ve been seeing PBB and would love to try that one also! And freaking C99! Fomo is real
I’m dying to order some “color of space” from in-house genetics too. Looks beautiful but $$
I can’t even list all the strains I drool over but don’t have space for ATM
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Ah yes, how generous of me. Lol. Delaying that run to test new batch of CS.
You nailed your reversal anyways! (P.S. dibs)
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Not yet. I’ve talked about getting some eXe spray, and I’ve even made some fem auto beans, albeit with donated pollen. I won’t spend the money on spray of any kind until I feel confident that it won’t be a total waste. So in the mean time I’ve done lots of reading and asked lots of questions.
We live in an older house with baseboard heaters, so they don’t actually push any air, they just radiate heat. Sadly I don’t have much climate control in this house. 
Have you run any gear by Exotic Seed Co.? I’ve run their Strawberry Cola Auto, and I have their Monster Mash Auto and Herz OG Auto. The SC Auto didn’t get very big, but it was one of my first five plants and I made more than a few mistakes. Despite that she actually did really well, other than being a shorty. Her density was fantastic and surprised me when all was said and done. The stone was pretty mild, but I kinda chalked that up to mistakes holding her back.
Once I start seeing action at one of the nodes I’ll start looking at that plant twice a day. Usually within 2-3 days of the first signs of anything I can tell which way it’s gonna go. Sometimes I’m wrong, but at such an early stage it’s no biggie to check them once a day and move a plant or two if I was wrong.
As to the space issue. I hear ya. Last year around this time I had 33 plants in 1 gallon pots in 2 tents, a 2x4 and a 2x2. I culled them harder than I normally would, but I had to do SOMETHING. You could try a ghetto version of vertical SCRoG, and use tomato cages in each pot, tying branches up the sides as they stretch, making them go up instead of out. 
Every grower should have someone like BasementBeans in their corner. A mentor, big growmie, advisor, or just someone with deep knowledge that you can toss ideas at for a second opinion who doesn’t mind random questions rolling in at all hours of the day. It’s like a safety net, so to speak, when you know that person has your back and will do their best to help you succeed in your endeavors. Big 
to BB and the others who take us noobs in and show us the way.
Space Wiz F2 beans are going into their containers after I post this. Maybe I’ll get some pics of the others in a day or so. I think one of the Spotted Limes is gonna be variegated 
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Asking friends and people I chat with regularly for the gassiest strain they’ve ever smoked or even just smelled. Doesn’t have to specifically be photoperiod, but I’m almost certain that’s where I’ll have to go for the level of terpenes I’m looking for.
My personal tops in this category are legit old school Sour Diesel, and MAC/MAC 1. Diesel and gas are equal favorites for me and almost indistinguishable to my palate. I will say that strong Diesel terps make my mouth feel “wet” or greasy when I’m smoking, whereas gas terps almost always make my mouth feel dry or like coated with a fine powder. Sometimes the mouth feel is the only way I can tell the difference, taste-wise.
Lemme know 1 or 2 of your best gas/diesel terp strains. Just to be clear, I’m talking end of the line terps, after some jar time, not living plant smell. And it doesn’t have to be something you grew yourself. Store bud counts too. Not all of us were born with seeds soaking ready to germ, so it’s okay to talk about the stuff you bought 10 years ago.
Editing to add: bonus points if you can drop a link to a pack of seeds for whatever strain you’re name-dropping
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Update time! Just went in to take a look at the possible male Spotted Limes F2 and I am happy to report that it is in fact a male. So there will for sure be some Spotted Limes F3 seeds being made, I’m just really hoping for a stunner of a female to make them with. It doesn’t feel right to call it a seed run when I’m only working with a handful of plants, but I don’t wanna let stuff go, so I make due with what I have. Plus, if I’m being honest, they’re free seeds. If they all germ and don’t herm, it’s a win.
The Pink Panama CBG I have is definitely female. I could just barely make out the little white stigmas yesterday, and was only about 90% sure I was seeing clearly at the time. I did put a bend in her main stalk, started with a little more than 90°, then attached a wire below her top node and tied the other end down to hold her top down. Went back this morning to check on her and pulled the wire down a little further. She’s already branching pretty good, so I figured she’d take the training in stride. Probably going to be crossing in Spotted Limes via the F2 male. I’ll be giving out small packs of those with the Spotted Limes F3s, looking for smoke reports on it. It likely won’t be anything I’m looking to move forward or work with. The goal is to create something relibly mild with some pain relieving and sleep inducing effects. Mostly for my wife, but I’m sure I’ll be enjoying it just as much if not more.
All 3 Space Wiz F2 babies are up and running. The slowest to break the surface is gonna be a shorty. Not sure why some plants do that, but it’s like as soon as they break out they just stop vertical growth and start making their first true leaves when they’re only 1/2" tall. My Purple Nuggets did that when she sprouted. She’s fine now and has gained some height, and I wouldn’t say she’s doomed to be the tent runt. My only real issue when they start so short like that is that it’s a pain in the ass to water those plants without getting water droplets on the lower leaves. I know, I know. 1st world tent problems.
@Nagel420 should probably read this next paragraph so they’re aware if/when they pop some of these seeds that I sent to them 
Over on the feminized side I’m down to 4 plants. I had to cull my NewBerry Black because I found a couple balls on her. Not sure if it was a stress issue or genetic, but she had female flowers and balls under them. Hopefully it was stress. I seriously pray it was totally my fault and I let her soil get too dry, or she didn’t like the temps, or just didn’t like seeing my face. Whatever. I’ll take it, as long as the reason isn’t genetics. Nagel, if you’re reading this, keep me in the loop if you find any too and I’ll do my best to make it right with you, somehow.
Purple Nuggets is doing her thing. Not overly large, but I also wouldn’t call her the runt anymore. Nothing much to talk about yet, so stay tuned, I guess?
Orange Sherbert Auto from Fast Buds is the slowest to develop in the feminized group. Not a total surprise, since they list it as a Sativa dominant strain, and I think they list it at 80+ days, maybe even longer. I’m stoked for this plant and I hope she does well for me. I’m craving some tasty orange terps.
The Mephisto freebie, 3 Bears OG x Mango Smile… I’m not sure about this one. I think she’s showing herm flowers, but I’m gonna wait it out to make sure. Most of the little single calyx flowers, the ones we look for to signal gender reveal with reg seeds, have more than 2 stigma poking out of them. Nothing written anywhere says anything like “Sometimes cannabis flowers just do that. It’ll be fine, don’t worry”. And it adds to my worries when I remember all the 3BOG herm posts on Reddit awhile back. So this one is being watched very closely. I hope it works out, since my wife actually asked me to run this one specifically for her stash. I’ve been begging and bugging her since the beginning to find something she thinks she’d enjoy and tell me what it is so I can get it and grow it, and she’s himhawed about it this whole time. Then when I got my order from Meph and told her what freebie I got, she was really excited and asked me to include it in my next round of seed popping. So here’s hoping 
Last up is my Puppiccino auto. Again, big thank you to Nagel for the donated fem pollen from their lovely Black Cream Auto. I’m really anxious and excited to get at the resin from this mashup. The Twisted Puppy auto I hit with the pollen was so insanely resinous. Her bud structure left a lot to be desired, but that’s no biggie. I’ll keep it around as a hash making strain and run it for resin only. My biggest hope for this project is to get some of the sweet candy terps from the pollen donor into the resin that Twisted Puppy produces. That would be so so so nice.
Okay, I think that’s everything. I’m still looking around at stuff, trying to put together a small list of stuff to order when all the 4/20 sales kick off in a couple months. I’m gonna fight the urge to go bonkers when we get our tax returns, and set what funny-munny I’m allowed aside for the 4/20 seed deals. I messed up last year and went crazy in February, then cried for the last 2 weeks of April when the deals started showing up. Not gonna happen this year. I’m really really looking for something with really heavy loud gas/diesel terps. Like, honestly, loudest shit you ever smoked or smelled. That’s what I’m looking for. Doesn’t have to be something you grew, but it helps if it’s something that is available to be purchased. I am willing to put in some leg work looking for a trade, but I’d rather just buy a pack if they’re available somewhere reputable.
Maybe next time I’ll have a couple pics for the thread. I just don’t like taking pics of plants with issues or that that don’t have something going on worth talking about. Most of the reg group have some ugly leaves already because I didn’t give them cal-mag soon enough, and the fems are all just small and boring for now. 
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