Is that good? I heard it should be slightly sweet but mine was sweet, then went yeasty.
(When I say sweet I mean like not sour,or like very slightly sweet)
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Ya kinda sweet sour smell Yeasty shouldnāt be bad. When itās bad youāll know haha. Not much of a smell tho
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Glad your finding it useful @Garden-Buddy! Stay tuned, more to come 
Sounds like your good to me too @Loggershands, I have found that its sweeter smelling in the rice wash stage, and goes more slightly cheesy as Crunch said once its done.
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Speaking of rice wash stage. How long do you let the rice wash collect? Iām on day 4 and I havenāt gotten that sweet smell. Thoughts? Old Shulby said his sits for as much as 7-10 days before itās ready. I only do this shit once a year!
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One of my main hopes for this thread is to have a active community where we all share in our journey, Thanks for jumping in @CrunchBerries @Kasper0909
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try putting it outside in the shade with a slight breeze, might not be getting enough airflow?
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I was just thinking of changing locations. Iāll put it in the sun room. Just reviewed Chris Trumps video and he said 3-5 days, so Iām good! Thanks home slice!
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Alright Fam, time to put this stuff to use.
There are 7 key formulas developed by Master Cho which will provide balance and abundance to your plants and microbiology when used at the correct dose and right time.
Formulas
- Soil Formula
- Seed Formula
- Maintenance Formula
- Leaf Formula
- Bloom Formula
- Fruit Formula
- Harvest Formula
MAINTENANCE FORMULA
Use alone for general maintenance or as the base for other formulas, MaintenanceFormula is the common denominator of most other formulas. Use this if youāre unsure what to do. Use different FPJ/FFJ for different stages of plant growth. Only mix as much as you need as the ingredients will react with each other.
How to make MaintenanceFormula
FPJ/FFJ ,2mL per Liter(1:500)
LV ,2mL per Liter(1:500)
OHN ,1mL per Liter(1:1000)
SOIL FORMULA
Used when building soil foundation, to improve soil health, fertility, and microbial activity, enriching it with beneficial microorganisms, nutrients, and organic matter.
Apply 2-4 weeks before planting and after spreading IMO. Drench the top 1/4 -1/2 inch of soil bed every 5-7 days until ready to plant.
How to make SoilFormula
FPJ/FFJ ,2mL per Liter (1:500)
LV ,2mL per Liter (1:500)
OHN ,1mL per Liter (1:1000)
WCP ,1mL per Liter (1:1000)
LAB ,1mL per Liter (1:1000)
SEA, 50mL per Liter (1:20)
SEED FORMULA
Used as a seed soak enhancing germination, seedling vigor, and overall plant health. Can also be used as a transplant or cloning dunk providing beneficial microorganisms, nutrients, and protective substances. Lightly drench around fresh plantings to encourage microbe connection.
How to make SeedFormula
FPJ ,2mL per Liter (1:500)
LV ,2mL per Liter (1:500)
OHN ,1mL per Liter (1:1000)
WCP ,1mL per Liter (1:1000)
FAA ,1mL per Liter (1:1000)
SEA , 40mL per Liter (1:25)
LEAF FORMULA
Used to encourage vigorous vegetative growth. Mostly applied as a foliar spray to young plants providing a diverse range of nutrients, enzymes, beneficial microorganisms, and growth-promoting substances. It aims to support plant health, growth, and resilience.
How to make LeafFormula
FPJ ,2mL per Liter (1:500)
LV ,2mL per Liter (1:500)
OHN ,1mL per Liter (1:1000)
WCP ,1mL per Liter (1:1000)
FAA ,1mL per Liter (1:1000)
LAB ,1mL per Liter (1:1000)
BLOOM FORMULA
Used to encourage flowering and fruit set, A nutrient-rich solution that is applied to plants during their reproductive stage to enhance flower development and increase fruit yield.
How to make BloomFormula
FFJ ,2mL per Liter (1:500)
LV ,2mL per Liter (1:500)
OHN ,1mL per Liter (1:1000)
WCP ,1mL per Liter (1:1000)
LAB ,1mL per Liter (1:1000)
SEA, 33mL per Liter (1:30)
Add 1/3mL of FAA as required, 6-7 drops per Liter (1:3000)
A variation of the BloomFormula I like to use is a CrossoverFormula. The exact same recipe but using unripe fruit for the FFJ.
FRUIT FORMULA
Used to enhance fruit development, quality, and yield in plants, A nutrient-rich solution that is applied to plants during their fruiting stage to promote optimal fruit/flower growth and improve overall productivity.
How to make FruitFormula
FFJ ,2mL per Liter (1:500)
LV ,2mL per Liter (1:500)
OHN ,1mL per Liter (1:1000)
WCP ,1mL per Liter (1:1000)
SEA , 40mL per Liter (1:25)
WCA, 1mL per Liter (1:1000)
Add 1/3mL of FAA as required, 6-7 drops per Liter (1:3000)
HARVEST FORMULA
Recipe that does not start with the base MaintenanceFormula.
Used to optimize the harvest timing and improve the quality of harvested crops. A solution applied to plants before harvesting to enhance their flavor, texture, nutritional content, and post-harvest shelf life.
How to make HarvestFormula
FFJ ,2mL per Liter (1:500)
OHN ,1mL per Liter (1:1000)
SEA , 50mL per Liter (1:20)
WCA, 1mL per Liter (1:1000)
NOTES
The recommended application rate is every 7-14 days, although I have gone as much as every other day with great results.
Trust the dilutions, spray more often rather than decreasing dilutions.
Early in the morning or late afternoon just before sundown are the best times to apply to maximize the IMO but whenever you can is good.
On days I foliar I like to hit them right before lights on and right before lights out.
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Wonderful breakdown of how to use the formulas as different stagesā¦
Iāve had this doubt regarding foliar applications during the flowering stage. How would you advise using it or until which stage if humidity is going to be a concern indoors?
I beleive foliar sprays of knf inputs have a better response, but would it be fine if just watered into the soil say mid to late flowering?
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This is what I do (sort of)@iceman , I foliar spray until I get far enough into flower to give at least a few applications of FruitFormula as foliar. My current run I think that was day 30 or 31 of 12/12. I then transition over to more JADAM inputs for drenching until just before harvest, I will then drench the HarvestFormula for 2 weeks.
(some day ill get brave enough to experiment with foliar feeding all the way through)
Ill go over my hybrid growing process later on in the thread after we get through all the inputs.
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My rice water smelled grainy with some sediment yesterday after 24hrs and today when i added it to the whole milk at 36 hours had a definite cheesey smell that wasnt there before.
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Wait, so you are foliar spray this stuff through flower? Crazy!! There is no residue on the final product? Do you rinse the buds?
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I have only gone up to 30ish days so far.
No residue, they soak it all up fast.
I have found the key is the balance in the formulas, if you just spray FPJ then yeah, youāll start to get some buildup.
No, I have yet had to rinse my buds 
For veggies though deff spray to the last minute. Especially the HarvestFormula with WCA and SEA that will help with shelf life, sweeten fruits, soften skin etc. many benefits
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About 4 days in now. How long should I let this go? Will all the curds float to the top when it is finished?
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When the curds are solid and can be cut with a knife you should be done. That yellow ish liquid is what youāre after. That looks like a lot of curds. What kind of milk did you use out of curiosity?
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I used simple truth organic whole milk.
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Looks like you have some color in there @Garden-Buddy.
What was the temp when set out your rice wash?
Did you notice a film at all on the top of the wash before you mixed with milk?
How long did you let it sit again?
You may have some other micros in there other than the labs trying to compete. If the temp is too hot or sits too long to develop a film you might not get the cleanest fermentation. This will result in the curds not forming in a mass on top.
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Yes it is. I prefer the more raw the better.
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Have you actually ran a full cycle with this feed program? Iād be very interested to see the final product and give it a smoke test to compare. I like it! Thanks for sharing!
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I had one do this and the cheese never floated to the top and fully separate. I kinda think I didnāt let the rice wash sit long enough or maybe because I didnāt let the milk come up to room temperature before mixing orā¦. there was something inhibiting it in the milk.
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