Bodhi Guide - Seed and Strain Discussion (Part 1)

[CocoaCoir]

@advancedbuffalo

Snow lotus was a good male when it was hard to source clones. But now that we have access to heirlooms via shippers, the SL is just obsolete for the reasons you mention.

Honestly just about all the Bodhi males are obsolete in that way. SL relies on mom leaners, SSDD relies on mom leaners, Wookie 15 is just not good IME with the 7 female being dramatically better breeding, SM male is a mom leaning hunt as well or else it throws boof rockets…

Right here @Emeraldgreen

[Emeraldgreen]

I was agreeing with what he said. I think Bodhi saw the writing on the wall way before any of us with this

[CocoaCoir]

People use cuts of Bodhi’s for commercial purposes. They a lot of times rename it like Bay 11 or like this

[Emeraldgreen]

A bunch of Bodhi cuts are run commercially. The point was the criteria that home growers have is completely different than commercial growers.
For example home-growers will run stuff for 12 weeks to get their ideal flower.
Commercial will cut on a determined time to maximize turnover. Say 8-9 weeks
I’m a fan as I said earlier

[HolyAngel]

@CocoaCoir

Bay 11

Ah yes, Green crack

[TopShelfTrees1]

Ah the old black Bermuda Triangle

[Emeraldgreen]

Gotta say I hate when names are randomly changed

[minitiger]

@SEMOActivist

Ultra Sour Double Diesel is a mystery to me. Does anyone have any information on that cross?

I got a batch of Double Diesel years ago. From what I remember, it was a cross of Soma’s NYC Diesel (boooo haha) and actual Sour Diesel, although I don’t know “who’s” SD cut it was (that kind of stuff didn’t really exist back then; there was Sour Diesel and that was it haha). I can’t remember if it was super-Sour Diesel-tasting or anything (and if I don’t remember, it probably wasn’t), but I remember liking the high a lot anyway.

I’m not sure about the Ultra Sour part, though. Maybe it was made with a very sour-flavored Double Diesel that somebody found in some seeds or something.

That’s a Bodhi release? The Ultra Sour Double Diesel x 88G13HP?

[TopShelfTrees1]

It’s becoming the norm…. And a huge pita

[minitiger]

But it has Level Three Loudness, so… haha.

[SEMOActivist]

@minitiger

That’s a Bodhi release? The Ultra Sour Double Diesel x 88G13HP?

It was an NFT release last year

[Emeraldgreen]

I remember seeing this a lot with retailers, not so much with growers. That could simply be because nobody was talking back than

[BackyardBoogie420]

I find it really interesting people talking about the old Snow Lotus and Appy crosses in a negative light, but completely overlook their purpose! Bodhi filled a very specifc and important niche at the time. Using those males on popular clones made them 1000% better for running as large full term plants outdoors! That’s how I was introduced to Bodhis gear, and 5+ lb plants in 200 gallon pots on 99 plant Prop 215 farms. Back then, Bodhi pounds pretty much always sold at a premium. And usually made some of the best hash. So running a couple little plants and saying its obsolete or whatever is really overlooking the real point of them, and how incredibly valuable they were in the full term scene.

[minitiger]

Ah, okay, that’s cool. Here’s an ollllllllld review of the Double Diesel, if you’re interested: https://potguide.com/strain-profiles/double-diesel/

Again, though, I have no idea if that’s the same thing that Bodhi used, but I have to imagine that if it isn’t, it’s at least closely related.

I also wrote a review of that Double Diesel I got like fifteen years ago, but I’m not gonna post the link to that haha. It’s out there, though, on the interweb, somewhere… haha.

[HolyAngel]

I loved the appy work but I’m a green crack fiend.
It’s the Snow Lotus male in particular that I’m not a fan of.

That being said, that appy male comes through pretty hardcore IMO, in a lot of the crosses with it. Seen it show up in the majority of phenos in both F1 and F2 beans. I don’t have any experience with his other males yet.

[CocoaCoir]

sl x appy is my favorite. I thought it would be eclipsed by chem d x snow lotus but it was not.

[Dirt_Wizard]

Out of likes but yeah that’s what first drew me to Bodhi before I even started growing, the success of those early lines outdoors according to people.
I know the Ancient OG and Mothers Milk have become very popular both pure and in crosses for OD full term growing, I keep hearing that MM #31 is one of the top yielding clones in CA greenhouses and fields from people, idk if it’s true but the reports track that I see here.

@Hemlock @Cannavore I found the post from @nube you guys made me think of about Bodhi’s “over the hill” stress test grove:

Bodhi Plant and seed guide (Part 1)

I didn’t get the viney stems, but definitely herms in testing, and I think the Strawberry Milk papa was also too dominant in crosses. Much of what he hit turned into carbon copies of SM…not really what you want in a breeding male. As for outdoor performance, there’s tons of discussion of it by what resistances his breeding males bring to the table over at Breedbay and RIU. You just have to search thru the threads - like actually use the search tool. I’m not being snarky, just saying that the…

[AmnioticBaptism]

At a local store in my area with ssdd the genetics were just Bubba and chem lol

[CocoaCoir]

[imstinky]

Jeremy from Build a Soil just said he planted some Bodhi Goji f1 seeds for his next upcoming season. So maybe we will see if a Snow Lotus cross herms on a pretty popular YouTube channel.