Very good point @Craigson15
Thatâs true. Even if you canât give live plants, you can give fresh cuttings (possession limit 150gr) and the person can root themselves. Another grey area that makes these laws unenforceable.
ya if it was failure to submit documentation based on legal purchase though you could still be required to have an official receipt of gift from someone who legally purchased it originally.
But that is a grey area. if that is what happens then we could face fines (for less than 6) even if we claimed it was a gift if we failed to prove it was originally a legal gift.That being said, it would probably only require a receipt or even a photocopy.
Would they be able to easily verify with a private licensed vendor who sold seeds?(i.e. would they have access to sales records).
Seems ridiculous as Iâm writing it. But it also seems very possible to easily fine A LOT of money just by confiscating and demanding documentation.
Youâre giving the government alot of credit there, youâd be shocked how sloppy and unorganized these institutions usually areâŚand again the burden of proof lies on them.
I donât need to prove the steel in my car isnât from the black market, and I donât need to prove the veracity of my legal plants either. Thereâs essentially nothing written in the current laws to address these issues that I can see
Totally agree with you dude
I never said anything about them being up in my face. I canât imagine they would ever do that if they were there to check out my 4 plants. They typically treat things like this as a âcasual inquiryâ initially, I prefer to remain courteous (but not âfriendlyâ), look them in the eye, and have the right answers to their questions.
Become quiet or shifty, or have the wrong answers, and things can start to get a little more âin your faceâ.
As I said, I remain sceptical about cops - but this is Canada after all. LEOs (in my home town, anyway) generally have a pretty casual initial approach. Why would I immediately go on the defensive and clam up when I am not breaking the law? Terrible idea.
that might be a good idea in Canada! Down here ânever talk to the policeâ is the best advice. The police will lie and put words in your mouth. Itâs harder to lie about someone remaining silent.
If I wanted to be extra-friendly I might say âthereâs nothing illegal here, Iâm busy today, thank youâ. Any gardening or other details of my personal private life is none of their business, and even today the laws still back up my right to privacy. I discuss gardening with the people at the garden store.
Never talking to police is solid advice everywhere. I mean they have their place but when it comes to an individuals home they have no business as long as nobody is getting hurt.
Just great them with a video camera uploading to the cloud and say nothing. I actually want a front door wifi camera/doorbell.
Also as for âhow did you legal seedsâ documentation. My friend at work had the best idea. Just buy a little legal weed and say there was seeds in it! Better yet, donât even do that and just photocopy someoneâs receipt. There we go, unenforacble law.
Not to mention everything else. Medicinal friends gift, cloned from an originally legal plant, ect.
Iâm convinced. itâs not enforacble. Still! I donât want to get caught off guard so I will have a digital image of my valid documentation available for potential requisition.
My Argyle seeds arrived today from BCCS. They are small and feeble looking seeds. Oh well, I got what I wanted.
JeezâŚare they feminized? You should breed them and start your own legal seed stock company
Yes. Feminized. However, we all know what could happen if my âneighboursâ plantsâ (legitimate or illicit ??) spread their pollen. How would I âknowâ that my new seeds are illicit (or not)? They will have come from legitimate plants. Thatâs all I will know.
See what Iâm getting at?
You canât stop nature!
Great post @Stoner. Thank you for pulling that straight out of the cannabis act. Iâve heard a lot of things from various people on the topic but no one seemed to really know for sure. So basically everyone should grow 6 plants instead of 4.
and great thread @beacher Iâm an ACMPR holder but Iâve always been curious about this.
sidenote- Anyone that wants to grow more than 4-6 just donât be lazy and go spend the 20 bucks and 1 hour of your time and get your ACMPR. also you can get a fuck load of weed from 4 scrogged plants, just sayin, thatâs enough to satisfy an entire family of smokers between harvests.
Cannabis was never actually legalized in Canada, they just legislated the shit out if it, creating even more draconian laws surrounding itâs use and cultivation.
Well thatâs arguable, but I donât love the way they did it for sure. They just put it all in the pockets of rich people which is the Canadian way!
What i find is ironic is it sounds like you all would like being law abiding people and they are doing everything to make you criminalsâŚinsane. Bad guys never cared about the lawsâŚlike gun laws. The only one who really gets tangled up with those laws are legal gun ownersâŚbad guys could careless what the laws are! The legal grows are concerned about profits not qualityâŚif they could sell you hemp they would! Weed should be like 2 bucks a gram not 20 or even 10âŚ2 thousand a kilo is enough already.
Yea youâre totally right. Canada is backwards land lol
100%. Never has there been such harsh penalties for weed before. They wanted a slice of the black market without disrupting their fictitious war on drugs, money making machine. Now they get it all. Taxes, market control and the ability to arrest any competition.
Itâs almost like the ruling oligarchs saw the weed selling for $400/ounce on the black market and said "I want that margin! I want that $400 per ounce for a plant. Letâs âlegalizeâ!