Chemical, or Organic. What's really the best?

Definitely very pretty! No arguments there!

I definitely see it being the preferential treatment for the resin heads, just have my doubts when it comes to the best flower smoke. Going to keep searching on it for sure though, always worth exploring and I love to be pleasantly surprised!

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Thatā€™s legal industry weed, itā€™s a tired trope that the legal producers are just there to make a buck by selling you garbage. Some of them do Careā„¢ and produce good nugs.

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everything have pluses and minuses. For me hydro/salt more controllable. But you need enzymes for clean yours tubes and fittings. Motore noise itā€™s hell. Think i know how avoid this.

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Hash was my first thought for freeze drying - Iā€™ve been curing my trim & larf then freezing it for the bubble bags. I end up with a few grams of full melt (45 & 73u), more than a few grams of nice hash (160u), and a lot of ā€œgreen kiefā€ that goes for edibles (220u).

I love well cured weed. Always will. Itā€™s a spectacular experience every time.
But Iā€™m always willing to consider other methods - trying a Malawi cure on an ounce or so this harvest.

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Absolutely!
All of the ops I worked for produce the best quality they can.

Iā€™m just saying that my friendā€™s personal garden is miles above his business.
Re: There are some phenomenal strains that donā€™t add up to a sustainable business, so they donā€™t make the cut for production. The best of those strains are in the personal garden, and if Iā€™m fortunate enough to be around when he harvests then we get to sample some really rare, fun strains.

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You are definitely right there, but this doesnā€™t just apply to chemical farming, but Organics also. I think the best we can do is find that sweet spot where the plant uses everything we put in the soil, and nothing runs off into the water or gases off into the atmosphere. Too much manure is just as bad as too much urea. My cousin grew at 23 and a half pound plant with three shovelfuls of organic fertilizer, which goes to show that we all often overfeed our plants.

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Yeah absolutely. Every situation requires a different solution.

Sustainable. Regenerative. Responsible waste stream management. These are much more important than any classification. There are plenty of situations where those ideas point you towards a salt or a limited targeted use of a pesticide.

Matter is neither created or destroyed, we just move it around and rearrange it. We just need to try and not mess it up too bad.

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I use living soil because Iā€™m lazy. Just adding water is less work.
I donā€™t wanna be dependent on a nute company.
I donā€™t wanna buy plastic that I donā€™t need.
I can grow my own fertilizer and add plenty of it that grows in my garden for free.
For me personally thereā€™s the spiritual aspect of honoring and respecting the soil that keeps us alive, that makes all life possible, this planet created us and all this amazing diversity, a nute factory canā€™t beat that. I donā€™t wanna feel connected to a company, I wanna feel connected to the living organisms that make my life possible.
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This whole argument is a make work project.

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Neat post. I remember reading that freeze-dried potatoes last more than 25 years. Those Incas were some incredible Farmers with some truly revolutionary ideas.

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People keep saying how easy organics is, then describe a needlessly complicated and labor intensive method of growing weed.

I walk in store, hand guy cash, leave with fertilizer. Add to water.

Dudes out here boiling eggshells and talking about using soiled tampons.

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Iā€™m being off topic and donā€™t agree, but damn that is hilarious! :rofl:

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Living soil = I know exactly whatā€™s inside of, what Iā€™m putting inside my body.

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Mostly I think LS is simple to physically do, but the Science behind as to why it works is whatā€™s sounds difficult. Took me a long while to wrap my head around it. :laughing:

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Yeah, once you understand the basic workings of the soil itā€™s amazing in its simplicity and a whole world of options opens up. Itā€™s crazy that most farmers donā€™t even understand how they are slowly destroying their soil by failing to add organic matter. That was another huge reason why I wanted to have living soil, didnā€™t wanna use the same method that is destroying soil all over the planet by using synthetic fertilizer. Fertile farmland is turning into desert because of it.

If the majority of farmers donā€™t start applying permaculture then weā€™ll have food shortages from failed crops quite soon as the weather is going into extremes. Synthetic fertilizers canā€™t fix a draught or flood, a well designed permaculture farm can withstand any weather (Geoff Lawtonā€™s Zaytuna farm is a prime example) and creates better and better soil for the generations to come as opposed to depleting it.

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Yes. I believe my nutes are semi organic, whatever that means (not organic). But itā€™s quick and convenient and itā€™s worth the $20 a run or whatever it costs.

Even if I were so inclined, which Iā€™m not, the idea of a bucket full of rotting banana peels is not attractive to me.

I donā€™t get the environmental debate. If itā€™s applied to large scale agribusiness then I agree. Iā€™ll even sign a petition.

Making personal choices because you care about the environment is a persons own decision. I would suggest taking the bus or not eating meat. Those are big things. Saving one plastic bottle? Nope.

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You forget about the millions of other people using one plastic bottle. Add that up to a yearā€¦ Thereā€™s an island of plastic the size of texas floating in the Atlantic, and itā€™s only growing.

Thereā€™s microplastics in our fruit and vegetables now. Weā€™re poisoning ourselves.

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I tried mixing my own soil for several years. Never really could get it just right. Plants always started out great, and then in flower started going down hill.

Then I tried Fox Farms Ocean Forest with some organic nutes. Same thing.

Then I tried the above with some added salts to try to be a quick fix. Always seemed to get some sort of nutrient lock out or deficiency as I moved through flower.

This run I am trying straight Promix and Jacks 3-2-1. So far the plants love it, are growing fast, and most showing no signs of deficiency. Weā€™ll see how they continue through flower but so far I am liking the Jacks 3-2-1.

Some donā€™t even flush with it but I think I will use pure water only for the last 10-14 days when that time comes.

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I consume very little relative to the average person. I rarely drive. I eat little meat. I have been using the same red nalgene water bottle for almost a decade.

Iā€™m about as low maintenance as they come. Hell, even my growing habits are good for the environment because my drug dealer doesnā€™t need to drive here.

Iā€™m not going to cry about a bottle.

You are not carbon neutral. And I donā€™t mean your consumption patterns. I mean you, physically, produce carbon dioxide.

If you are using a smart phone to read this then you indirectly support child slavery. Is that ok with you or do you accept it as necessary for your lifestyle?

End rant.

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Itā€™s not that complicated. Organic stuff is reduced to gradually simpler compounds by fungi bacteria enzymes and oxidation. The plant then absorbs those elements.

Fertilizer does the same thing without the unnecessary less efficient intermediary. Thatā€™s why plants grow faster and yield more, better, flowers with salt based fertilizer.

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