Chemical, or Organic. What's really the best?

If that’s it in your hand in your avatar then it hardly looks substantial

thats actually a full thumb dislocation
ableist fuccboi.
but thanks.

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I knew you’d be back

:joy:

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Pop it back in, re-align your chakras, and get to shoveling cow shit; they crave super-organic weed not excuses lol

Who needs birds n bees n butterflies … gimme that stank :scream_cat:

How bout agent orange, how about round up ready: now I know most of you all aren’t spraying these chemicals on your medicine (I hope), But the point I’m making is that some chemicals build up in the environment and can be highly dangerous and toxic to all life. Ever heard of red tide, toxic algae blooms? So no not all chemicals and molecules are ok, lol.

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Why would you spray defoliants and herbicides on your weed? It’ll just kill the plants.

We’re talking about WEEEEEED, not weeds.

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Nah man we talking chems’s now

Flush away?? Hm, i run a closed system. Nothing gets flushed out. So, I guess I do know where mine goes…to the plants :+1:

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Just when I thought this had died down :popcorn:

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That’s because of runoff/ erosion/ mismanagement of fertilizers on huge commercial operations. That’s not on us little guys that grow a little bit of herb using salts. If your adding a bottled nute or calmag your using salts, even if it says organic. Everyone needs to calm the hell down on this thread.

Christ, I pour my runoff onto my flower beds, they look phenomenal

Love you all BTW

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I hear you, I know it’s not small scale growers creating these large scale international issues, but the ideology of; its all just chemicals and molecules is the idea I have issue w at the moment. Some things actually are bad for the environment and we could take that into account if we cared too.

Lol, sorry to stir the prickly pot so. Enjoy your flowers!

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I do, the biggest bed grows big red flowers that bloom around my son’s birthday, they make me smile every year

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I take offense to that because I do want to listen. I want to hear something I don’t know about why I have been thinking about salts the wrong way.

I come here to learn. I didn’t say anyone was arrogant, I said the argument was arrogant. It may sound like splitting hairs but it’s attacking the idea not the person.

@vern drops a lot of good info, but he keeps repeating something that I feel is a great disservice to science, human progress, and evolution in general. This is something that upsets me at a place where many people come to learn. The ability to try and have an intelligent and open discourse about that is really important to me.

Just because everything all break down into the same components(which by the way may not be as controversial as you think because if you read this thread through you will see that at lease you, @vernal and I have all agreed) [quote=“MantisTobogganMD, post:247, topic:48825”]
Matter is neither created or destroyed, we just move it around and rearrange it. We just need to try and not mess it up too bad.
[/quote] That doesn’t mean we can rearrange them in a way that fucks everything up. Why is there a massive (and growing) dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico?

If you don’t care about this topic, that’s fine you don’t have to be here, but don’t shit on anyone who is trying to move this conversation forward or push people to be more critical in their thinking.

Just because you can’t farm regeneratively doesn’t mean you can’t be thoughtful of your inputs, their supply chain, and your waste stream. The world isn’t binary. It’s not completely regenerative if there is a negative impact. We are not separate from the environment and ecosystems around us, we are a part of them. We come from them. Everyone has a different situations and different limitations, but we are all in this together and all a part of this place.

I use salts and other non-organics as supplements, tools to be used to acutely treat issues in very limited amounts. I don’t shit on anyone who chooses to primarily use salts(although I reserve the right to shit all over their reasoning for doing so).

If you give a shit, help take the discussion in a direction you want it to go. If not, go somewhere else. Be the change you want to see.

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You could grow enough cannabinoids for the entire USA in a few square miles of Illinois cropland.

It’s a drop in the bucket compared to the entire system. It ain’t weed fuckin’ shit up.

Dudes act like they’re saving the world with organic weed…but the truth is it’s completely pointless. I can make an argument that they’re actually worse for the environment, since every watt of indoor light is powered by fossil fuels, it’s better to squeeze every gram out of that resource you’re able.

Had a buddy in Colorado who grew no-till LOS w/ cover crops and he’d get about 1.5 lbs off 3K of light…I can double that without trying. So…in a way…he was actually wasting far more energy than I was. Cherry on top…his weed wasn’t near as good as mine.

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What kind of system/medium do you use? If medium, how many cycles before you change it out and what do you do with the spent medium?

I use octopots now. Miracle gro dirt and petite. About a 60/40 mix. 60 perlote 40 dirt.
I just use miracle gro ferts.
I always reuse my dirt. But when I need to add any its miracle gro.

The funny thing is I’m not even sure if my fertilizers are organic or not. And I’ve been using them for years.

It says “natural and organic.” Whatever that means.

I sent an email to clarify but haven’t heard back yet.

I’d assume not because otherwise it would be in big bold letters.

But at the end of the day I don’t care.

This might be controversial but I don’t care about home recycling either.

I’ll sign a petition saying that big companies shouldn’t pillage the commons but my tuna can is irrelevant. I’m such a small fish.

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And that’s why CBD bottomed out, and now they are turning the over supply of it into delta 8 and 10. Farmers saw how CBD sales went the first year and then tons more planted trying to get in on it, but it was already at 100%. I believe a lot of the CBD sold in 2020 was produced around 2018, from articles I’ve read. The market was just totally oversaturated with product. Now they are converting CBD into delta 8 and 10 and selling it at a premium.

I’ve always said, if your growing in a plastic pot, your not organic. Plastic outgasses when exposed to light.

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No, I would not say organic weed is solving any of these issues. “Organic” specifically is a lot of hype and marketing.

But an ethos that strives to understand and create balance and harmony does potentially stand to be something the world could use a lot more of.

The ethos of I’m doing what I say is best cause my weeds the best and all things come from molecules anyway is connected to why the world is in such disarray nowadays, imho.

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I figured when I’d see ads for companies saying “bulk CBD isolate” in multi-kilo quantities lol like man y’all must be desperate to get rid of this stuff.

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