Is it really that hard to figure out, usually if a chemical is involved its not the best situation.
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After reading through this entire thread, it really seems that despite some intense debate, everyone’s agreeing on the following two key points:
- Regardless of whether synthetics or organics are actually better than the other, what matters the most is knowing your growing style as well as possible in order to exercise best practices.
- It is important to understand the science behind how those best practices work in order to cause the most benefit to the plants and least detriment to the environment.
Would love to hear others thoughts on this.
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For maximum production? Both. It’s not an either it equation imho… use Brix testing as your guide.
For personal stash? Organic every time.
Very hard to beat the vegetative growth rate achieved with urea in soil though … and believe me I have tried.
“Mill mud” is currently my goto soil amendment… it’s the sludge and ash left over from the process of extracting sugar from sugar cane…
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How is the pH since it has ash? High?
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Yeah the ash carries about a quarter of the liming capacity of calcium carbonate… The soil where I am is a volcanic red ferrosol type in an area that receives an average of 16 feet of rain per year so the soils, although igreat structure and fertility is very acidic with pH of around 5.5 so the ash content suits me here… the soils here are very high in magnesium and manganese also, so much so that if the pH is left unabated, the acidic conditions make more of these elements available to the plant and you can end up with toxicity…
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Hi @thecurtainwith ! Just imagine … the dude (old grower very old … highlander or Overlord) …
Ask Ed stuff … Writing how to germinate ? 50 times (once in a year eazy) … And we always read …
Once in a while some mantras apper … Resumê
GENETIC AMBIENT FOOD … Simple ???
And than…
Some nervous Ctrl C Ctrl V stuff
https://www.maximumyield.com/foliar-feeding/2/2438
I go totally org on the soil … and half org foliar ( Alga Mix fron Biobizz) and half Chem ( Biofert 4-14-8 plus 6 ) …
The Chem i pufty 2 times … 5 to 6 weeks of veg to input the pre flowers and 2 to 3 weeks before harvest
Caruru weed … oxi tunnel friend
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That’s a beautiful plant my dude! Goes to show a hybrid method works real well too.
Personally, I’m organic through and through. Mostly out of principle honestly (hey, I admit it!) but also i think the science holds up really well and I don’t have very much money so it make things easier. And hey, it’s worked great for me so far 
Interesting to consider the differences between foliar feeding synthetics vs soil feeding when integrating them in to a hybrid growing regimen. Makes sense to me that the plant would make more use of the synthetic nutrients through direct foliar absorption rather than letting them flow through the rhizosphere. Provided, that is, that you’re using an organic soil for your primary feeding.
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Man, I got satisfactory growth results with cow’s piss, which in addition to urea provides several other compounds and minerals and is also repellent to insects and fungi. It is collected during milking, the smell is strong, but it is used for foliar and soil fertilization. I have never used urea directly to compare.
Just getting it off my chest:
Everything that Cartesian thought does not explain, some here call magic…
I would like to remind you that everything that is publicized in the world depends on money, and nobody is going to spend money to sell independence…
Therefore, for those who already know, please disregard it, for those who are still stuck in the manipulation of knowledge, evaluate what quantum physics, quantum mechanics has to say…
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Cool beans … getting the best results we can is the aim of the game bro, not being arrogant or ‘laying down the lore’ just relating my own experience hey.
My property borders a large dairy farm and so I also use what I can get from there… the issues I have had are the same I have had with brews made from fresh cow or chicken shit; with something volatile like nitrogen it’s hard to know how strong it is so it’s a bit of a best guess, go by response kind of approach, which is fine, but just more unpredictable that’s all. Urea is urea regardless of it’s sources I guess, it comes down to how you feel about the fact that industrial production of it uses petrochemicals as the feedstock.
I couldn’t really follow the rest very well if I’m honest…I could just be too baked however 
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so @cannabissequoia so which is better Dispo buds or Meesh’s organic sun grown and properly cured? Funny the guys that have sampled both remain pretty quiet.
@ReikoX is doing both organic and chemical Must be a reason to do the organic no-till. Seems he could comment though his would be indoor iirc
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Not sure if this is shifting lanes too much for this thread…
Most here know that there are so many factors that go into creating our favorite medicine. If we could do the impossible and isolate one single most important factor to growing the best cannabis possible; what would that factor be?
I’m thinking it’s genetics first, without that you’ll never compete. Is there any one factor more important than genetics?
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Love this takeaway.
Best case scenario; we all take care of our environments as we take care of our neighbors as well as taking care of ourselves while utilizing the tools and methods we find best suits our needs to keep on over-growing this joint ;!
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I’ll take one for the team and come sample and report back
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I wanna replace my lawn with a vegetable garden 
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I had a neighbor once that had turned their front yard into a garden that was free to anyone that wanted it. Had signs up, all sorts of fruits and veggies. Think if everyone did that instead of grass. Childhood hunger would end, people would always have fresh stuff to eat, no matter their economic class.
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That’s the plan.
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This year I replaced the back yard with clover and corn. Hoping to stink out the neighborhood with some chronic 3 metre ears of corn.
*Organic, to stay on topic
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hers, easily. Because:
COMMITMENT OF THE GROWER. Above all else. It’s the “real work”; When it’s your baby you will fuss over it, when it’s just a job where you’re high all the time 
and waiting to go home, then it’ll be a shit sandwich. 
The other factors all influence the outcome, it can be directed, and somewhat controlled, but never 100%.
It’s “craftsmanship” as is winemaking; Part science, part experience/art, & mother nature.
@Meesh learned at least as quickly as I did based on her results.
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Environment followed by genetics followed by nutrition/light. If the environment’s fucked up, even the best genetics can’t shine to their full potential. If the genetics aren’t great, the best lights and nutrition a grower can offer won’t get bud that’s as dank as the bud from quality genetics.
just my two cents
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I’ll smoke to that!
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