Update-
Angus says that he is ok with us donating and sharing seeds made from his genetics. Sounds like a general policy. Communication was a little difficult, but he was totally chill with seed sharing.
The lebanese co-op run is official.
next step, shucking.
When you get a sighn up list feel free to add me to it if I donāt see it right away , I grew some Lebanese autos flowers and really liked the profile would be nice to have in regular phot form.
I just wanted to remind everyone that one of our original goals for the co-op was redistribution every 3 years. The idea was that people who signed up would in turn make fgen preservations and donate them back to the co-op to be distributed even wider and to provide fresh seed stock.
I just wanted to encourage everybody to keep this in mind. A lot of the co-op breeders and seed pack donators are busy continuing to work on new projects for the community. We are really relying on people who sign up for these to preserve them again and donate seeds back.
If anyone has already made fgens with co-op stock, please consider donating some back to the co-op. pass on the good vibes.
We have been preserving and sharing seeds for 2 full years now, so it seems like a good time to revisit this goal and make some plans to refresh some of the earlier co-op projects.
With the cool kids becoming freaks in a closed freak circle I think the concept of open co-op seed runs will die sooner or later.
I donāt believe that for a second. Iām a freak and I plan on doing both Iām doing specific landraces for freaks and other discontinued strains for the coops. I also know of other freaks who are doing that.
Also there is only about 20ish freaks at the moment. Yet over 150 people sign up on the coop lists. I would hope more than just us 20 would be doing coops
Edit - maybe Iām incorrect in assuming this. But I sure would hope Iām not. As I feel this is the true point of OG. If side groups do get in the way then I feel that deffinetly could be a problem. I see side groups as a person excepting more responsibility to do more. Not as a trade off.
Getting some room in my garage away from the rest of the girls to build another breeding room. Maybe soon I can be a freak too!!! 
My only reluctance to fully freakin is due to my lack of spaceā¦9 square feet between 2 tents. Will apply to be a freak after expandingā¦!
Itās not closed by any stretch, anyone who wants to can join the āfreak circleā. They just have to agree to the guidelines. Besides, the Freaks arenāt gonna be doing any Mint Ice Cream Chocolate Chip Cookie Cake runs. There are plenty of those strains around, and people want them.
As for the Freaks, the plan has been from the very beginning to give away seeds to OG. On every run, after all the Freaks get a pack, all extra seeds will go to @Sebring to be distributed to OG members through his site. We could do a sign-up sheet if itād make you feel better. 
No, they canāt, unless they can meet the requirements. Completely different thing than the seed runs where you just sign up. So compared to that, itās a closed circle.
I have not seen anything like that in the co-op seed runs ever. Must have missed it. Or itās not what the runs have been about. 
Thatās nice, but again a completely different story than co-op seed runs. And I think those will die. Thatās all I said.
Except for Snowhigh strains. The Freaks are dealing with only heirloons and landraces. That leaves plenty of co op material. I myself would be sad if the co op runs stopped. That wasnāt the intension of the Freaks starting. One of the hardest parts about growing landraces has been finding them. I always wanted to put them all in one place, so everyone could find them easier. Weāve just opened a door for people that dont have time or money to track these varieties down. If anything, itās our hope that this gets more people involved with preservation, not less.
Just to be clear, Iām not saying the Freaks are a bad thing or have bad intentions. I also said on the Freaks thread I like the idea. If I had the option to run 10 plants Iād like to contribute myself. Itās just not possible in the near future.
Still I think itās likely the co-op will be less attractive. I think Iāve already seen somebody with co-op intentions being asked to join the freaks instead on some thread.
@allotment You should start a coop seed run your self shortly to show the website their not dead and then it will encourage others to do the same.
Have you done a seed run before? Im preparing my blue velvet at the moment for one. And am doing afghan kush for the freaks at the same time.
I am slowly working my way up. Made my first few F3 seeds of a coop strain. Will do some citrus auto crosses next. But every run is also for bud. I can only do micro grows. I donāt think have the space (and the laws) to provide 150 people with seeds as the co-op requires. But weāll see, Iām trying to up my skills a bit with every grow.
I grew 3 18" plants and flowered them out. hit them all with pollen from 1 male, I flowered in a separate tent, at week 3 and week 4. I pulled 1000 mature seeds from each plant. Iām not sure if the worst part was shucking the seeds or packaging them up 
So IME, two females and a male should cover 150 people if theyāre good seed makers and you get em a couple feet tall before flowerā¦ Was my first time making seeds or I wouldāve done it as a co-op myself. I still only gave out seeds here to anyone that asked, free of any charges, and sent the rest to Sebring.
I have a space/plant limit issue as well so Iād much rather do selections rather than open pollinations. Bud runs are a thing for me too so that also cuts into my seed making. Can really only do it once or twice a year if everything else is perfect.
So my plan is do to a co-op for the Purple NL#2(NL#2 x Purple Unicorn) since those were limited release from Bodhi, here in a couple months, when I finish the bud run from them.
Yay more confusion and people wanting to be in charge is all I see.
What a sad time. There was no reason to deviate from the coop run format other than someone wanting to be in control.
Why cant people just ever let good things be as is?
I donāt mean to come across as an asshole, but I have to disagree with you on this. Weāre talking about two different things here. Youāre talking about getting seeds, Iām talking about making seeds. To YOU itās just signing up, but seeds donāt magically appear, and so someone is making a far more significant contribution to the success of that effort.
The whole point of the FBSC is to preserve the strains we have, thatās why only growers can be Freaks. It costs something to be a Freak. All of our full members are required to do commit a minimum of 16+ weeks each year to full open pollination seed runs, affiliates are required to commit 8+ weeks per year. All of those runs are paid for out of the growers pocket.
Like @Upstate said, most of what we have are landraces and heirlooms. We accept hybrids, but they have to have at least one landrace/heirloom in P1. All of our Snowhigh stuff meets that criteria. Take Bodhi for instance. Except for Supernatural, and Nierika, I canāt see the FBSC running his releases, mainly because they donāt have landrace/heirloom genetics in the P1 generation, but also because there are already a lot people running Bodhi strains through the Co-Ops.
@Chronickyle is working on a group to do runs on packs of less than 10 seeds. That might be something that would work for you @allotment. Hit him up about it.
There are hundreds of strains out there, more than enough to support both the FBSC and the Co-Ops. It just doesnāt make any sense to me that someone would choose NOT to do a seed run simply because the FBSC is doing one too. But Iām a Freak, so I could be nuckinā futs.
As far as I know Co op seed runs are still happening with the same structure. No one has deviated from them. When someone does a run on their own and gives out seeds is that bad too? That ādeviatesā from the structure of the co ops. Iām struggling to see how more people making more seeds is a bad thing.
Donāt forget, one of the requirements to be a freak is that you have to complete a co-op run first and become an overgrower. Weāre making exceptions for this first year, but thatās the goal in the future
Last year, that I can think of anyway, only 2 landraces were reproduced for the co-op. Goroka Highland, and Kashmir, both by @Worcestershire Farms. @Tommy McCain offered up a bunch of ABC seeds as well, but I canāt think of any other landraces that were reproduced last year. Iām sure there are others that I donāt know of and somehow slept on, but there werenāt many. The freaks are looking to reproduce between 20 and 40 landraces per year. I donāt see how that could be a bad thing in anybodyās book. If only three are done per year, just my collection alone would take 40 years to reproduce. Iād be dead before Iād get to try them or see them grown.
Far from trying to replace the coop runs, we are trying to supplement them. Landrace and heirloom preservation demand that more be done
And before I receive a ration of shit for saying that, I want to say how much I love the coop runs. They are the reason I joined overgrow. I couldnāt believe people were so generous with their time as to give a bunch of it up to do something for other people. It restored my faith in humanity. I plan on participating in the coop runs, as well as with The Freakerās. No such thing as too much of a good thing in my opinion!