Yeah, three weeks to flower is still pretty long, like a 12-16 week strain. I’d think if it were an indica cross that wouldn’t be your fastest to show flowers. So it might just be a heavily worked IBL.
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Thats what I’m thinking, a well worked strain, but I’m no expert on Jamaican strains or many well worked Sativas in general. Maybe some faster Mexican genetics in this line. I most definitely stressed the plants too, during that transplant. To be fair, I may have even triggered flowering I messed them up so bad. I think Nitrogen was locked out looking back at some pictures. Plants probably thought they would die soon. Under hps a couple looked yellow. They were pretty uniform before that. They are flowering slowly which is good. Some Tropicals start off pretty quick. Like the Thai I ran. Still took a long time to finish.
Monkey Puzzle/Vibes Collective Lambsbread is at week 6 now, i think. Going thru a growth spurt. Ill try to remember a tape measure tomorrow and check each one. The plants are starting to get personalities. I’ll number them soon if there is interest. Heres a couple. Maybe 20 inches now.
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Nice plants Upstate!
Regarding the faster varieties… I wonder if there’s some Blue Mountain genetics in there. Said to finish sooner and yield better. Different terpene profile though.
The thing that confuses me is that all of the landraces we have now have to be IBLs right? Well if that’s the case then how does an IBL have the ability to have so many different phenotypes? For example I’m looking at basically all of the landraces from the Philippines on TLT’s website. They all have 5 or more phenotypes. Could it be that the Longtime is similar? We just need to go through more plants to find the long flowers. I’ll be germinating all 10 of my seeds when they get here. Looks like it’s going to take another month or maybe more.
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@Upstate
those my friend are looking nice, that lambsbread smoke though is by far the best.
really well done so far!!
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Landrace populations are( were) in the millions in traditional growing regions. Tons of diversity. Each cultivation site has a slightly different elevation, soil, water, etc…different growers picking different plants out to be the parents of the next generation. Sometimes fields are left with all the male plants, sometimes only select males are kept alive. Plant diversity is found everywhere there are large numbers of plants.
If you select just a few plants, say from a ten pack ( doesn’t have to be 10…small #'s of plants) of seeds, and you breed with only the offspring of these plants, after 7 or so generations of open pollen or several generations of select pollinations or back crosses, you’ll have an inbred line. Similar to people. Sleep with sis, and you are inbreeding. Sorry for that horrid metaphor lol.
Now if you take many lineages of the same ibl and mix it with other ibl’s distantly related, you’ll have an heirloom. That’s my take on things and my view is always evolving as I learn more. In a nut shell,
- landraces have huge populations and loads of diversity and are minimally selected
- heirloom populations consist of a narrower genepool that has been highly selected
- ibl’s are made from very highly selected small plant populations, often encompassing only one or two phenotypes.
These are long flowering. Some phenos trigger very quick but flower slow. I’m quite baffled at the tiny size though. I don’t understand. All of the plants that were quick to trigger stalled out. If I was you I’d start growing these( or not) in plain garden soil with lots of perlite and some castings. I’m beginning to think these are very sensitive. If you get quick deficiencies, I’m wrong and they are pigs. Its one or the other.
A possibility i thought of is that the seeds were made using chemical fertilizer for many generations. The first generation they are grown organically they can have trouble adjusting. The seeds i make should grow better if thats the case.
Another possibility is that I’m a shity grower with my head firmly up my ass:rofl:
I’ve never had Sativas do what these are doing, which is close to nothing. Even when I’ve put sativas in soil that is too hot they grow and stretch as they lighten in color. The flowering stretch on these is zero. Like the Arghandhab Black I grew. I’ll be growing offspring from these. If they behave the same way there is something wrong with them. ( or me)The other Sativas ( 6 kinds)are leaving these in the dust. Twice their size in half the pot with a month less of veg time.
I would seriously consider growing something else until it can be proven these are not a waste of time and electricity. This is my 30th year growing. At the very least these are 10 out of 10 difficulty level with Thai or Mexican being a 3 on the same scale. I’d wait and see if a transplant helps at all before diving in. If you can’t wait, get good quality organic potting soil with some castings and try only that for starters.
Real Jamaican Blue Mt is a monster and very long flowering. To my knowledge its not closely related to Lambsbread. There is no pure Blue Mt out there for sale, but I have a real one that predates any of the others. Someday we’ll get to watch it grow.
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That is very strange indeed. The first one looks healthy enough for it not to be a nute issue maybe?
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I know. Both the ladies look" healthy ". All 5 inches of them😁
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I like them. Perfect size for my tent. 
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That’s quite the head scratcher. Compost heap or finish them off in some dimly lit corner of the room?
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It sure is a head scratcher. I won’t be wasting electricity on these. They are in my house in a window making a few seeds. I have to try the seed i make before i say they are junk. Certainly not acting like the animal I read about…flowering half a year and " growing that whole time"
Or have they been growing???..where’s my micrometer? Lol
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Close. It’s 1.5x2x2 
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They’ve stretched 2 microns today! I can feel them growing.
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Lmao!!! I needed that. Very discouraging to say the least. I’ll get a comparison pic with Monkey puzzle/ Vibes Collective Lambsbread soon. Quite the difference. I’ll get pics of the 5 other jlf shortly. They are doing better but still hardly growing.
$500 i spent between these and Malawi. Will Get about a quarter ounce all said and done. Expensive pot! Not including electric of course.
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Why don’t you try to bury them and cover all that naked stem? Perhaps they would throw new roots and awake like mines did, nothing to lose … 
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,theres at least half a gram there lol.
These are beyond hope. The others may wake up though. I’m going to try.
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Maybe it’s the best weed you ever had.
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Better be one hit wonder weed or i won’t have enough!
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Boy that’s weird! Not normal Sativa behavior, like you say, even with too much N I would expect them to lengthen as they die.
Makes me think root issue. Interested to see the roots of those when you dump them. I’d get out the microscope. 
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