Building a wet-bulb / dry-bulb temp controlled box would increase success rates, without them what are you all thinking would be the best way to process the leaves?
At this point Iām at a loss. Idk anything about tobacco curing. I think the canna cigar I see with green wrap are going to be a harsh hot smoke.
Like I said ealier I was going to let the leaves fade on plant and dry to a certain point, wrap and use oil to stick. I may just try it this way anyway.
@Dewb I do believe (Doobie leaf?) That way will, indeed, be a very harsh hot smoke.
@Worcestershire_Farms I believe a hot box of some sort, maybe using an incandescent bulb as a heat source would work. Iām not to sure on how Iād regulate the humidity though.
I would think you would want a hard wood and nothing soft like cedar or pine. Think most dowels are hard wood.
What shape would you want?
Like churchill, corona etc
Or like a swisher perfecto, cigarillo etc?
Eventually, a lot of shapes and sizes. I donāt know where would be a good starting point. Probably 1-2 grams-ish. Maybe short and stubby more so than long and skinny like a cigarillo.
I think your original plan is on the right track, a little warmth, humidity, and time, and the enzymes should produce a leaf that is more akin to actual cigars than the green monsters we see all over the place.
Iād think hps or sun grown would produce the best options as they tend to have bigger leaves
Those Boveeda packs might help!
Iāve thought about the boveda for the aging process after the fermentation, but I donāt know how well the boveda would do under higher heat. Iām thinking more along the lines of moist paper towels and frequent misting.
I thought the point was to cure the cannabis, use fresh leaves to wrap, and then cure the cannagar for an extended period (six weeks miinimum maybe?) to rid the harshness.
@ryasco, I believe without a proper ferment youāre still going to have a pretty harsh and hot smoke. Iāve seen people do what youāre speaking of, but I think it can be done better.
I also wonder if broad leaf varieties have different nuances to sativa leaves etc too
A petite corona would be easy to make.
Just about 1/2 inch in diameter and about 4 inches long.
A male mold would be easy. 1/2" dowel and slightly round one end and there you have itā¦
Iāve done it and am still going to try some more so iāll be watching eagerly to see how yours turn out. Mine werenāt too harsh but could be improved upon for sure.
@ryasco since flowers and leaves are so drastically different I would image it could be beneficial to dry and cure completely separately. Plus (not to be redundant) I think the real important part here is the fermentation of the leaves which would really smooth things out immensely when compared to just a dried fresh leaf. Iām months out from having fresh fan leaves though unfortunately.
Donāt laugh too much i am getting better. This is the first one i ever did. I have only made 3. Ha! Ha!
Iām not laughing. It takes failures to figure out success. I think that the fermentation would make the leaves easier to work with and now pliable too. Plus when using a dowel it would offer a more uniform and solid structure to form the leaves around.
I have wanted to do this for a very long time. Curing the leaf is the main problem. Also they are thin compared to tobacco.
First a broad leafed plant with very thick leafs needs to be found. Doesnāt matter if itās hemp or some killer. Itās what will be stuffed inside that counts.
Next curing them. They stack and press tobacco leafs during the curing proses. I think that would be doable with the right type of leaf.
So any suggestion on a broad leaf plant that has really thick leafs would be a good start. Iāve only grown hybreeds but would think a pure or close to pure indica plant would be the first place to look.
My two Cās on this.
Go Indica!
Cigars are wrapped twice. Once to hold the filler, then the wrapper which makes it pretty and lets you put a tip on it. I havenāt tried that yet, but am going to.
@stain thatās all in line with what Iām thinking, only I could imagine it being done with any type of leaf, just that a broad leaf would make it a little easier.