Wise words my friend! An experiment now could pay of huge this spring, hell, most auto genetics Ive worked with seem to be extremely hardy to cold and Ive also found that it doesn’t take much to keep a plant on a proper light cycle, there is a very happy medium between indoor and outdoor growing and it does not have to be an actual greenhouse. Where there is a will, there is a way!
Those plants are Stellar man, top-notch 
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Well thanks to all you generous OGs, improving isnt too hard around here!
And extra special thanks to OG Cole, hopefully you have room in your place to chill, last time I looked over there, donkey dicks were popping out everywhere 
kind of made me uncomfortable but I know thats just my strict upbringing 
Freakin Rocked it out Big Homie!
Looking great man! I didn’t notice my photo x auto start flowering until 9 weeks, so I suspect you’ll need to continue bringing the daylight interval down.
Almost choked on my coffee 
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Autos have ruderalis genetics. Ruderalis comes from Siberia or places that are Siberia-adjacent. I may not be able to actually do very many things, but what I can do has been thoroughly researched.
Whatever happens, next year is going to be interesting.
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Thanks brother! And Good Morning 
I have to say, these hybrids are definitely throwing me off. Its getting hard to decide what I want to do here, continue to make observations or flower them out, trying to do alittle of both…What I personally kinda thought might happen was that I would see some signs of sex before any light change. I felt this way because of certain past experiences and I also have a hunch that some indica genetics especially would already contain the auto flower gene. Just not dominant, hidden away, I mean, it just cant be as simple as 123…far too many combinations to comprehend, I mean, autos are somewhat new to our community but that doesnt mean they have not cross bred naturally on their own, right? I would imagine so but I honestly dont know, just a rambling man as always…
So out of these four plants, some of them are still too early to tell, though both of the FCC x STH are confirmed female, the two hour drop Ive already done has certainly sped them up. The Banana OG x STH were also showing very faint signs before any light change but not enough to make a real determination. It makes sense as the fathers genetics are clearly affecting the sensitivity to light schedule, as in, the FCC are really starting to stretch more and sex is certain. Not so with the others. I predict that if I keep the schedule at 16/8 the FCC x STH will continue to flower but the Banana OG x STH might stay stagnant, so just gonna give it another week then Im going to 14/10 which I have flowered photo periods at so Im assuming here that the hybrids will be happy to oblige.
I know that this doesn’t or won’t ‘prove’ anything, and on that note, I got nothing to prove anyhow, always simply making my own observations and sharing them with yall as we go, all while I work on my own miniture donky dicks:pinching_hand:
got my tweezers out! Seriously though, I cant wait to see what the flower of these plants looks like, Ive got a fairly good idea of structure now so probably going to drop the light by one hour a week untill we hit full throttle because what good is half veg/half flower right?
and Happy Rambling Weekend
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hehehehe
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So…I was going to agree and say something about three recocognized subspecies but these canna-cookies are kicking in and I start to question everything…The way I currently understand it, I think at this point we’re basically ‘borrowing’ the auto gene from the ruderalis, some of the ones I originally purchased have been bred back to photo strains, both indica and sativa, so many times they cant have much of the original ruderalis left in them, yet they are still ‘full auto’. And now, I have crossed them back again. The waters are definitely muddied up real good here as Im wondering what percentage of photo genetics possibly already contain hidden auto flower traits?
And I agree, whatever happens, it will be interesting. Cant wait to see the research pay off for us both!
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Maybe autoflower is a dominant gene. A longer flowering period is advantageous by default. The trick is breeding the autoflower gene into the equation without effecting the cannabinoid profile, sometimes radically. A lot of ruderalis is CBD-dominant and/or has a profile very different from any drug variety. However, every year is at least one more generation of selective breeding, meaning the quality of auto genetics will only continue to improve.
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Hi friends! I hope everyone made it safe and sound through the holidays.
I couldn’t help to try and snap a photo of this happy surprise today and share it with yall. I thought that I had all four females which isn’t bad, though I had wanted to do another generation so was hoping for at least one male, I was also struggling with some unexpected color change but a buddy helped me figure it out as too much light/possible ph issues and I think we’re back on track.
So took this guy out today…
Going to light dep him up top in the kennel, he won’t take much and when he’s ready to pop, Ill simply pluck a ready to burst pod and sprinkle it on a single cola of each female, outside on a calm day, as to not taint the tent to much. Just waiting on the last one to show, switched the light schedule to 14/10 about two nights ago and it looks like we’ll be moving along much faster now.
The outdoor garden was officially done around two weeks ago. 
Am planing on simply cutting the stalks, letting all roots decompose and topping off with a few buckets of homemade two year old compost on the beds to mature through the winter. Will cover with dry leaves and hold it all together with some big sheets of plywood on top to help continue the process for next years adventures, am only going to do the four cannabis plants in these beds and am working on another plot for the vegetable garden.
This years leasons were humbling yet very rewarding and I am very thankful and blessed to have had so much help, friendship, and guidance along the way, this winter will be filled with hashy smoke thanks to so many folks here. Baumead wanted just one last look today…
Oh, and this little homemade aquarium cloner is still working like a charm!
Hang in there Everyone We’ll get through this winter/holiday season, the sun will shine again, and we’ll be back outside in no time!
Im going to post a weekly update on the indoor grow here, if thats all right? Ill post an outdoor shot here and there just to keep things kosher.
and 
Listen to BeaTape #9 by Degiheugi by Dealer de Musique on #SoundCloud
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Lookin’ good buddy!
Glad you found what you were looking for, which is that male, the Banana OG cross?
I chopped my stalks off at the base and am letting them decompose as well. Was starting to think about how to reammend the soil for next season, and what timing I should have with that. I’m going to change pots up, so I was thinking about laying all the soil out on a tarp so I can mix ammendments in and start with some amount of uniformity with the soil. The girls all sinesced pretty bad, so I think I need to do some serious ammendments. Was also thinking because I used cheap soil and salts for the first couple months maybe I just restart altogether. Haven’t decided yet. I think I’m going to start by dumping out all the pots and seeing what I’m working with. Sure, not no-till, but I think I mix up what I’ve got pretty good, do a soil test and see where I land. Wouldn’t hurt. Winter projects beyond that include making a proper compost pile and a screened grow area. Compost pile being first priority. I’ve got several piles of the plants from the veggie beds that I half-assed am hoping composts, but it’s not going to be like making a real-deal compost setup… Need to start saving my coffee grounds and veggie/fruit trimmings too, that’s a change of habit.
I think I need to add some lava rock to my veggie beds for drainage, so probably going to till that in too. Not to make a habit of it, but need to fix some structural soil missteps last season.
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Thank you 
and yeah, sorry…it is definitely one male B.OG x STH that is now up in the kennel for light dep and the three females are now alone in the tent…
The one female B.OG x STH back left and the two female FCC x STH front and back right. They are enjoying the extra space it seems.
Sounds like we’re both grinding our gears on next season already and thanks for that, getting my soil checked is also on the list, Ive never done that but we have a shop down the road so my lazy ass will get on it. Working on the compost but I think it still needs some work, its too foul! Glad we have the time, though already impatient for next outdoor season. One thing that helped on the composting for us was getting the sealed bucket under the sink for collection, until we did that, we wouldnt commit, well I was always down but it took some work to convince the better half how easy it was and now we’re becoming ‘those people’ lol
Hope all is well with you and yours homie!
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Looks like a good time brother, way to grow man.
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Nice. You may get some cannabis volunteers next year. Those are always fun. It’s good you can do some indoor growing over the winter. You can do some experiments and/or seed runs until spring. Anything you can do to get over the winter blues…
What strain do you have growing in your tent?
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They are happy campers in there.
So do you have another tent for the male?
I need something in the kitchen, that’s been our hurdle too. Just a bucket with lid? I’ve got some of those. Every morning when I toss the coffee grounds, I think “I really need start collecting this stuff”
I’m good but really busy and tired. 3 days a week I leave for work around 5am and return home around 6pm. Because of my past, which I’ve been working hard to fix the damage from, we can’t move closer to work - and won’t be for a few more years. It’s more frustrating than it used to be before I had a family. It’s a long commute, but at least I can manage 3 days in-office, and work-from-home 2 days a week. I try for 4 10 hour days so I have a 3-day weekend most of the time. It’s just hard to balance the responsibilities of a promotion, daughter being at a high-maintence age, and trying to make sure our home or relationship isn’t neglected. My duties at work have been more than I expected, although once many of these improvements are rolled out, that should fall significantly. Life always seems to be about trades: We can take it easy now, and leave the hard shit for later (I did this for 10 years drinking); or, we can bust ass when the need comes up and hope it’s easier later. I know it will be, but damn. It’s been a trying 18 months or so since I moved to build my family. Certainly a test of my resolve/recovery staying away from the booze. Little bits of herb now and then help out quite a bit. Gardening was absolutely good for the stress overall, although it definately adds some stress of its own to the pile sometimes 
Daydreaming about next season and planning things out gives me something to look forward to. I’ve got plenty to keep me going but…I’m just tired and thought I’d be better off sharing that rather than keeping it to myself. Can’t wait to take some serious time off in a couple weeks - until then it’s going to be a sprint to the finish line.
Cheers guys. Have a great day, love checking in on my OG buddies
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I understand PTSD only too well. In addition to wartime service, I also got into some legal trouble immediately following my third deployment. I did a few months in jail and even got extradited. Long story short, I NEEDED psychological help and had to abscond probation and go to another state to get help. What I did to get into trouble initially was bad, but what the state did over it was worse (the “cure” is worse than the disease; I’m sure you’ve seen that situation).
Anyway…
My lemon basil was flowering when we had a frost, and they calyxes turned purple in the cold. I also have a bunch more of those holy basil seeds in the ground (from the purple plant). By the way, I’m about to make a list of all the various seeds I’ve collected here (both wild and domesticated plants), and you can have any of them you want. It would be cool to have an actual herb garden in your indoor setup.
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Using a Boveda pack is great for keeping a relatively constant humidity level in your jars/bags, but be careful about how you open them and store them afterwards. I find the salt from my fingertips will sweat on and ruin the pack eventually if I put it in a jar or a bag with the Boveda already exposed. When you get the pack, peel it apart from the plastic layer, then take it out of the package. Put it in a zip-lock black and white bag and seal it with your fingers so it’s still naked. Then seal up the bag with the Boveda inside. The Boveda should never be exposed to air or moisture as you store it away, so I have a little foil bag that I use to store mine in my grow box for the year.
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Hello friends! Its been way too long. I apologize for not getting back to you guys or posting any updates for such a long while but I hope you see this before Christmas and please know that ALL is good here with my family, of course the dogs are better than ever, they hate this weather but don’t we all, I also sincerely hope that you and yours have been hanging in there too. Oh, trust me, I know you have, we are all warriors around these parts. I can totally relate with the winter blues as most of yall seem to understand all too well yourselves, this time of year can get emotional! And yall know Dendro, I get all weepy and stressed out, I just implode and thats just no way to live. I know I can do better and I have alot of hope for the future
So this time, during this inevitable gloomy part of the year(at least for me!), for once, Im taking a different approach. Ive just been giving myself, my loved ones and of course my OG family, a big phat break.
I took a break all right and life has had its ups and downs(spoiler alert…the grow has been a challenge but is doing fantastic!) Its been a while though and I feel I owe an explanation. So I guess its fair to say the break is over, sorry lol, I wont go into too much detail, but if anyone has experienced any symptoms like vomiting, extreme nausea, sweating, nervousness…I strongly urge you to first, go to the hospital, but second, hear me out here, read my testimony, laugh your ass off at my ridiculous proposal and my usual uneducated ramblings, hell, cuss me out for being brainwashed and never come see what Im up to again, cancle me, but start to consider if you or someone you know has ever ingested too much THC? I know, yall are probably going to have my head for this blasphemy but I urge you to understand that I mean Cannabis or the Community no harm. I come in Peace, Always have, Always will. Now, if the reader is just becoming aware with my story or are just a normal person that doesnt read ridiculously long rants but are feeling unusually frisky, then let me do a quick cliff notes on what Im talking about here. I honestly believe that this here ramble is ment for someone out there, I truely believe its potentially life saving advice and testimony, so please, again, hear me out. Think about if this could be happening to someone you know and care about.
If what is/has been happening to me, turns out to be something else, I will be right back here telling yall about how I was wrong and delusional
Just alittle background and please, if you have any questions or statements to make, please do, it wont hurt my feelings, I know I could be missing something here and I am also asking for yalls help. I believe this problem Im talking about, which is somewhat officially known as CHS, or Cannabinoid Hypermensis Syndrome is potentially going to have some negative affects on our lifestyle and more research must be done. There is some info to find online but this has only been somewhat recognized by the medical community and therefore even less by the cannabis community since around 2004, for obvious reasons as well as some not so obvious ones as I have personally found out the hard way. Its all been very new but very real to me.
I have consumed cannabis, without any negative effects(except those imposed by society and my own addiction issues) since around the age of 12yo. The amount I have used and how I have used it has change significantly over the years though as long as its been up to me(prison can sometimes create an issue here) I have consumed about as much as I want. One way or another, I gets mine. Of course I have lost my way many times and I have let lifes obstacles get in the way of my mission. I have used many other substances, am a recovering alcoholic(its been around a year without alcohol now, I have had a few slips but I dont beat myself up as my wife says thats her job) I do take suboxone and have not used other opiates for many years. I just want yall to understand alittle bit about my medical history, Im sure alot of this is no shock and I have yammered about such nasties before, but ever since I smoked my first joint back in Jacksonville, Arkansas circa 1993, right after I had lost my friends once again because of a sudden military family move from Newport News ,Virginia, I wanted to know more about this amazing plant. The skater kids in Little Rock were the only people I seemed to have something in common with in this new wierd country hick place we moved to, seriously, no offense to anyone, I am now a certified gangstar, redneck, countryboy, hippie weirdo conservative/liberal that strives to get along with everyone after living on every bus traveling through every continent in every country, state and cell block imaginable, I love and appreciate all the pieces of who I am today. One thing is certain, I have always wanted to grow my own medicine, to see the plant for what it is, an amazing natural living being thats been around longer than we have and not just some drug that simply gets us high and gives us the munchies, makes us lazy and commit crimes lol we know better but it’s been persecuted for sure and so have we as a community, as a whole. I knew this from before my first toke, that society was full of shit. And after that first J, I fell in love with nature more than ever before. I knew that everything I had ever been told was a half truth, at the very best, and that I would one day grow this wonderful plant that can and does create all these wonderful natural chemicals and natural resources that we can use in so many ways it simply takes too long to list them all. I know you guys know what Im writing about here but I have reluctantly learned, finally accepted that I, out of all people, possibly am genetically “allergic” to THC, I couldnt even believe it myself but after a whole lot of reading, contemplation, talking with professionals, friends and family, I now believe that I have been getting sick from over consumption of specifically thc for a very long time(I know, thats impossible you say, thc helps nausea and has never caused one overdose, thats what Ive screamed at people for years too) to be fair, its definitely not an allergy but this is something that apparently only happens to a very small percentage of very heavy thc(from the limited amount of information I can find, it is only high levels of thc and not other cannabiniods, thankfully) consumers. I also believe that some people will say, ‘well, it happens but its not thc, its got to be pesticides or something else’, and they might be right but I dont believe it to be caused by pesticides in my case as I grow my own and DO NOT use synthetic pesticides ever or many sythetic products at all, like the bottles that hold some of my supplies are synthetic, thats about it, there are a few others that use the herb that I grow and have never been sick, in fact, I cant grow enough. So anyway, if this does happen to you, you will KNOW what Im talking about, if not, you probably have nothing to worry about and can fully consume thc to your whole hearts content. But for me, or anyone like me who has what is now recognized as a very real disorder or syndrome, and believe me, the research on this is scarce and for good reason, for I believe it has been severely misdiagnosed, in my very un-expert opinion, as either, withdrawal from other drugs as alot of heavy cannabis users also use other substances, or it can be misdiagnosed as a simple hangover, the flu, any and all stomach problems can also really confuse both the doctor and patient. My appendix ‘went bad’ during all of this and I definitely thought that was the problem for awhile but then like a bad horror movie, the severe nausea came back. I have been secretly and not so secretly struggling to find a diagnosis for all of this for around a year and a half now. I was only told about this by one doctor in that time, Ive seen a few handfuls during this time, have been honest with all of them, as I said, I had my appendix removed, so I have seen and heard it all at this point. So if Im honest, and I always at least try to be honest, I was somewhat educated on this subject by one person in the medical community through all that time, though I just couldn’t believe her and was in semi denial and would stay that way up untill around three weeks ago.
Its a slow build up of nausea and since pot helps to control nausea very well temporarily, boy have I been helping my self feel even sicker in the long run. I did notice the connection awhile back but its easy to convince yourself that its something else when its also something that you love so much and also seems to help the problem. I mean, I have put my whole life into this, in a way, ya know? I have gone to prison for this plant, ended potentially great relationships, the list goes on but admitting that THC is making me sick was very hard to do. Im still not better, I feal nauseated as I write this but I hope that as I continue to taper my use, the sickness will continue to subside and that I will be able to still use cannabis, just not at the amounts I was ingesting before. I admit, I was way, way, over doing it. Its embarrassing really but I am sure there are others out there that need to know more about this.
Ill keep in touch and let yall know what I find out. In the meantime, Im considering that on my next grow, I will be incorporating more cbd and other cannabiniods into my crosses. The community has enough high thc varieties that Im sure my input there will not be missed.
Thank you for reading, I am doing very well today and am simply refocusing on the future.
Happy Holidays Everyone and please stay Healthy my Fellow Earthlings 
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As usual, my phones memory is full and I have not been able to take any pictures lately, these last photos are from when the plants were having a few issues, about ten days ago now, I think that it was too much light, my usual overwatering, and possibly a calmag deficiency but either way, today they are looking amazing again and are really starting to flower, the Banana Og x STH female is looking particularly frosty over the last few days, the lone Banana OG x STH male is about to pop any day now, he has been up in the kennel, just getting by with some florescent and a flood light as well as some natural window light and has been kept on a manual flowering schedule, by throwing him in a dark closet for 12 hours. So here is the Banana OG x STH male, up with the overwintering pepper plants about to pollinate the two ladies in the tent…
This is the best looking of the Fionas Chem Cake x Strawba the Hutt that has been getting an sts treatment in her separate space so hopefully some S1 Fems from her, its my first time attempting feminized seeds so if I dont see any male signs by the time the B.OG x STH male pops, she’ll get hit with him too…
And these are the other girls, the Banana OG x STH on the right and Fiona’s Chem Cake x STH is on the left…
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I don’t think you owe anybody an explanation at all.
It’s good to find out what’s going on with your body and what will make you feel better in the long run. I’m one of those people that thinks anything can be overdone and eventually stop making you feel better. I can’t eat chocolate cake all day, but damn, I wish I could. That and cherry ice cream. I’d eat ghost pepper hot sauce on everything, but I’ve learned the ole’ stomach gets to twisting up pretty bad after I guzzle that down and I have to moderate the use of it. It’s nothing to be embarrassed about. Weed is the same to me, in a different way. I smoke a couple times a week, just enough to feel a slight buzz. I don’t like feeling totally blazed, just a hint of something different. I sure do enjoy it though. Appreciating the flavor nuances, the changes in perception, the magic of helping those plants make it through some tough times. It’s a full-circle sort of thing, like my ghost pepper hot sauce that I grew and made. There’s magic in there as you know. Harmony.
This s**t right here…
There’s such a thing as too much of a good thing. Do your thing man, stay healthy.
Your ladies and boy are looking good. I’ve been reading up on STS in preparation for my Bubblegum Fast Fem summer project. Stoked to get it going, looking forward to trying it myself. Was going to get the Twenty20 STS kit, what are you using? I think it takes a while, few weeks to work. Most of what I’ve read is start treating about 1-2 weeks before flower and start the “F to M” about 2 weeks before the F plants are going to start flower - but that’s so the pollen is maxed out when the females are most ready. I’m sure you’ll get some seeds either way, probably just not as much. But that’s just regurgitated internet, not experience speaking. Interested in watching it unfold.
Cheers man.
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