Thank you brother, some very patient ladys.
Hope all is good man!
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Those are looking good! I like that BOG x STH
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Nice! Those are the kind of bud shots you see in High Times or other pot porn mags.
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Thank you bro, it feels like God knew I needed just a portion of my sanity back and gave me a few freebies to play with and well, she always says to pass it on and I do try to listen…
I just spied and was able to document this little surprise two days ago, two spots obviously visible on the exact branch that it should be on, no other signs of herms anywhere else on the plant and only on the FCC x STH #2 that was treated with a premixed STS solution every other day for about ten days with the last application around two weeks ago, as always, I should have kept better notes, I had a few lighting malfunctions and such during this grow, though these male looking flowers are not what Ive seen on plants that have hermed under those types of stressful events that seem to effect the whole plant, this feels more like ‘spot stressing’. I think its safe to say that these herms, for lack of a better term, are indeed from the STS application.
Always interested in your opinion when you get a chance. I know I cant be 100% and now Im really wishing I had not pollinated so heavily with the Banana OG x STH pollen as now Im either going to have to store this hopefully upcoming fem pollen for later use or try and find a few spots that aren’t already pollinated by the Banana OG x STH and then it will still be extremely hard to know what is what.
I have a few ideas on how to be somewhat sure of what seeds are which, simply the size and maturity of the different batches of seed should be enough for me to separate them and label confidently. Whatever I do, Im going to harvest some of the first round of pollinated flowers before the fem pollen is ever applied to the rest of the remaining plants to at least be alittle more sure of some of the previous seeds father. Im not completely surprised that the STS worked but it was a happy surprise to see this as even I had given up by now, but luckily, stubborn me had to keep checking and looky looky, I guess I’ve joined the dark side, gonna be careful with this, my instincts tell me I’m playing with fire but that definitely ain’t nothin new…
Good problems to have I guess!
Hope all is well my friend, if anyone else has some advice or input here, I’m open, lets hear it!
Thank you and have a nice Sunday yall🙏
The lady in question,
Fiona’s Chem Cake x Strawba the Hutt F1 #2,
Keeping me on my toes!
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Thank you brother, I can finally stop now. I dont need or even want everyones respect or approval but to hear words like that from a friend means the whole world to me. Thank you and all of our kind Family here, I hope your having a good one as well.
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Sure look like male flowers to me! My plan to keep things seperate is…to well, keep them seperate. That’s about it 
I’ll label the branches I pollinate and keep them in paper or cloth bags for a day or so. I’m going to STS all three of the autoflowers and try to keep their pollen seperate from each other so I’ll want to know which did which branch of my pollinated girl.
I always thought you wanted to keep the pollinated stuff, regardless of how early, all the way through completion so the seeds are good. I don’t know how it’s going to turn out to deliberately late-pollinate some other stuff and hope the seeds are good by the time the plant wants to die. I’d save the pollen for another round rather than trying to use it immediately. But that’s me - attempting to be patient.
As always, and similar to yourself, I’m going to be doing multiple experiments at the same time. I’m going to top the autos and try to keep half of them female, weaving the male “half” through a partition (so I don’t accidentally spray the female side). Ideally, as the flowers mature on both sides of the divider, I’ll be able to pick which plant has the best female flowers - hence which pollen I’m going to favor. Seems like the best way to do selection/collection all at once to me, but we’ll find out soon enough.
Pretty shemale you have there!
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Keep posting stuff, dude. Don’t think of it as bragging, but of putting information (yes, pictures are information) for people like us. Every grow is different, and photos might have info useful to true growers. By ‘true’ grower, I don’t mean what someone might have in the ground, but someone has in his/her mind.
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Thank you bro, she sure fooled me!
I appreciate your time, its stressful to be doing something new but always exciting. I dont think I would have even tried feminization unless you and another buddy had talked me into it.
As far as keeping them separated, that is definitely ideal though a very hard thing to do. I had tried my best as always but life has a way of changing things up at the last minute; you know how it is brother!
In this case it was the heater up in the kennel that broke down and we moved our dogs into the room I use for over-wintering the pepper plants and the f1 male stud of course was in there, so he had to be moved or else get trampled, so he stood up to below freezing temps for just a few minutes on the way down to the main house and only suffered some frozen and dead tips but thankfully was still able to do his thing after a few more days of healing from the cold, he was just a nice strong dude all around.
That one lucky male definitely created alot of seed on all three females and thankfully there are just enough lowers left untouched that could easily still be pollinated and identified using the fem pollen that has come out of left field, so Im going to try at least. On the subject of how long the plants will go, its amazing, once seeded, Ive never had them not ripen up, the flower will look narly and Frankenstein looking but they work it out for us in the end.
As stated, I understand there is never anyway to be 100% certain, especially if using multiple batches of pollen. My past experience tells me the time difference of more than two weeks from the last male will help some, and harvesting the tops and therefore most of the previous batch of seeds before the collected feminized pollen is applied will really help me to tell some of the seeds apart, though as usual, only one way to find out in the end. Just got to do it and grow them out and try to learn from the mistakes.
I’ll keep you and the Fam here updated with how things go for sure. The pods look like they are just about mature. Thank you for your insightful thoughts and advice. Looking forward to seeing your upcoming project. Was looking around and saw a great auto to use in your Indiana Bubblegum cross, Mephisto’s Hubbabubbahaze would be an excellent plant to pair with, I think? I can’t remember if you had an auto version picked out yet and I haven’t grown that one out myself but its a very popular pick. Hope it helps anyhow, Happy Growing and Chucking!
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I hear ya brother and Ill try and keep em comin!
Im very thankful for the opportunity to show the grow and definitely hope to help others either now or in the future, however I can.
Part of the reason I started to post online was simply to help OVERGROW the government, or at least overwhelm them. All while also attempting to up my own game by learning from all the talented folks around here.
I pray that full federal legalization is growing nearer and I feel the change. I learned recently that all cannabis seeds are somewhat narrowly defined by the feds as hemp seed, as seeds never have the required amounts of thc to be considered a ‘drug type’. Not too sure on how accurate that is but it explains alot and I sure hope its true.
I believe you’ll see the day Georgia decides to legalize and hopefully sooner than I think. I was surprised when Va legalized and it all happened very fast. Money is definitely alot of the motivation unfortunately. I believe we(Va) were just testing the waters of the southern states overall new attitude, once the money starts flowing, they all want in!
Hope all is well and Live Free my friend! Happy Growing
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Nice pics. Legalization/decriminalization has implication far beyond what the law actually says. What it implies is even more important. What accompanies such policy changes is de-prioritization. Even in only decrim jurisdictions, a cop can be writing a ticket (or about to) and see someone littering or speeding, and they have to let you go in order to catch someone committing an actual crime. It probably also means a drastic cut in the DEA’s eradication budget (I hope, anyway). A lot of cops anymore don’t give a damn about weed unless they’re under orders to give a damn. Even then, their level of motivation correlates with their level of funding. Plus, law enforcement isn’t very popular among the citizenry. Their purely punitive, heavy-handed policies and militarization haven’t helped.
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What is “pollen chucking” or “seed chucking” exactly? I keep reading about it, but don’t know what it is.
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Well, Ive just heard and used the term ‘chucking’ (DC Seed Exchange is run by someone using the handle ‘Paul N. Chucker’…lol…that one took me a little while too long to understand but it tells the tale and I scooped up my first really killer lesser know strains by more ‘affordable breeders’ on the site) often as a term to describe homemade seed batches and breeding in general, on the internet and in grower circles. Sometimes its used in a derogatory way, though more often, around these parts anyhow, a term of endearment when speaking about created or creating new cultivars. Often times, as is the case here, with me, not everything is up to snuff, so to speak, but we sure try our hearts out regardless.
On that note, I definitely dont think it matters how great of a set-up one has or how much money we put into the starting genetics. If we put our heart, mind, and soul into whatever we do and use honest and thoughtout approaches while always staying open-minded to new or misunderstood practices and are willing to learn from our mistakes, then successful projects, new batches of amazing seed, are sure to come. “Happy Chuckin!”
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Last trim and over the hump, cruising from here on out at week 7 or so of flower, its hard to pin down but officially they’ve been flowering for like 9 or ten weeks now, with lights at 12/12 or so for 8 weeks…
This particular Banana OG x STH f1 is just starting to finish up and smelling like a very good mix of banana og and strawberry kush. The male used to make this next batch of f2 seeds was looking much more of a banana og leaner so hoping for his longer flexible limbs but the strong sweet and sour smells are definitely coming out loud and stong on this girl, but with that hard to pin down, muddled banana accent that is so addictive and hopefully as tasty as some of the flowers Ive tried from previous parents and direct relatives. The seeds soon harvested from this girl will be a pure f2 gen of Banana OG x Strawba the Hutt and plan to take to full auto as well as find a bigger outdoor version that flowers like these f1 crosses did. That or just make another batch of f1 seeds! She’s quick but not lacking in terps.
This, one of two, Fiona’s Chem Cake x STH is reminding me of the Skywalker OG auto thats also in the mother of all of these plants. There are other traits for sure but the Skywalker stands out along with some of the Fiona’s Chem Cake, but its FCC x STH #2(pictured in a previous post) that is the foulest lady of the bunch if were talking straight smells and overall oiliness as of today and is looking very ‘cake and chem’ to me.
Though FCC X STH #1 is ripening up much slower than the rest, she looks to be the biggest producer as well as possibly some of the frostiest flowers up and down her length in the long run. Long flexible branching has been appreciated during this grow. When growing for flower/meds, I’ll top indoors almost every time but during a first time grow and a potential further generation run, I have learned to let the plants grow naturally to be able to gather as much info about the new cultivars as possible in a relatively short amount of time. This plant is one thats just screaming to be topped and I am very eager to oblige on a future run! She was pollinated by the same Banana OG x STH as the others and this particular cross has my attention along with high hopes, will be technically going back to f1, I guess, but stonger none the less and should be able to quickly find the autos.
Im thinking the beans from this girl are going to be the ones I take to full auto first, God willing and with alot of support and blind luck!
I’ll post some pre-harvest shots in a few days or so and then getting ready for early spring ourdoor, time to change the year on this thread or start a new one, will figure something out eventually.Till next time…
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Hey Dendro, one of the people, that I run a lot of his gear, as he offers excellent price value, is Santero. He has always referred to himself as a Pollen Chucker.
Yes, it was once a slur towards anyone who used a breeder’s work to make something else.
No ONE bred cannabis into existence, the plant belongs to who has it now.
Once I pay my money, I’m the mofo that owns it, if I want to use to make something commercial, that is my business.
Disclaimer: I do not feel this way for the test beans I’m running now, they belong to ~nugzz, my take is the bud (I’ll grow out) for the information exchange, as I grow them out.
Now, it just makes good sense, to create what you want or that you just want to do it.
I recently found Paul N Chucker on a very cool, weed site, as I chasing info about your Buttered Cowbell and Amos that worked it, a few months back. Packed full of chuckers, breeders, buyers, all lovers of the plant.
Wrangle them beans man, I think it’s awesome myself!!
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Been a few days since I really sat down to get back to ya. Totally get that, life happens and things change, keeping things seperate only works if nothing goes crazy. Like I said, that’s my “plan” but we’ll see how it goes.
There ain’t nothing wrong with that approach, that’s basically what I’m going to do this summer. Mistakes will be made, but it’ll be a learning experience for me, not worried about it or uncertain results.
I’ll check into the Hubbabbbahaze, that sounds good anyway. I was going to use Fastbudz Original Bubblegum, since it seems like the closest thing available in full-auto to the IBG. Bubblegum Strain Auto Cannabis Seeds – Buy Bubblegum Weed Strain | Fast Buds I also spotted this pop up a few weeks ago: Auto Bubblegum - Autoflowering Feminized Seeds - T.H.Seeds™ I may go ahead and grab a few of those too.
Looking good! I wish I could grow more inside, looks fun to be able to have that in the middle of winter. Also curious to see what the spread of those F2s look like. Lookin’ like a chonker of a cola on that FCCxSTH, fantastic!
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So dropping seeds in random places in the hope of establishing a feral colony (yes, I’ve heard the arguments against that) could be considered “seed chucking?”
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You know you’ve got a good thing going when even the fan leaves have trichomes.
A thought occurs: as with regular porn, pot porn has its own genres. Hell, the term “full bush” would mean nearly the same thing in both cases.
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First, you’re exhaling carbon dioxide. Second, it seems like plants can sense your presence and personal attention, and react accordingly. Just being around your plants is good for your plants and definitely good for you. It’s meditative, and again, it seems like plants pick up on that.
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I hear ya brother! Once you have em, you have em. End of story. Dudes acting like they are Monsanto and shit, ya know?
Now, there are some common courtesies as you pointed out with test beans and such and our word should be good but Mother Nature cannot be owned by man, hell, we are part of that nature too. Whether we like it or not. I sometimes wonder whos running our breeding program 
Hope all is good brother! Wrangling away!
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Man, so I ended up just cutting off those three branches that had been sprayed and were throwing pollen sacs and was able to collect a bit of the fem pollen, a very intense procedure but I agree that its too late on this round to do anymore beans. Probably not enough time and not very realistic anyhow as there would definitely be more unknowns than there already are. So harvesting a few early branches of each so I can be more sure of the genetics and going to keep an eye on things until a full harvest in a week or so but damn, I wasnt expecting the sts to work so it threw me off. Always surprises, maybe one of these grows will go as planned 
Looks like you have some good choices already on your auto, I wasnt sure if you had one picked out, Im betting you’ll try a few different ones to see what you like the best?..Unlike me who just dives in. I sure wish spring would hurry up! Ready to give it another go.
And thanks man, its definitely nice to have an indoor set up but nothing is like outdoor, its almost depressing in a way, outdoor just gives the best results, hell, I haven’t even been smoking as much, there is just something about sunny days and feeling positive instantly, I miss them! Hanging in there and I hope you are as well brother. Looking forward to another season outside!
Gonna try and get some bigger ones this go around! I dont think Ill go as freakin MAD this year, thats the plan at least.
Even have the Regalia ready for the PM, as ready as Ill ever be I guess
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