I guess I go 15 hours without eating every night between dinner and break-fast.
Not on purpose just happens that way.
Does that count?
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Totally agree with that. I would eat from boredom and masking my internal anxieties. I would fear getting hungry, and if I was going out anywhere for a time that would overlap eating times I would have something before going out.
A lot of people when I tell them I fast for up to 6 days at a time freak out, and say they would be worried to not eat in a 24 hour period. I found it very liberating to know I can go 6 days without food and not have to worry about it, longer if I really had to.
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dry fasting has the most benefit for you from what i’ve read. i did that during lent this year like muslims do for ramadan. nothing to eat or drink from sunrise to sunset. it resets your circadian clock and lowers bad cholesterol. there are many theories on fasting as i found out when researching how to fast.
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do you guys get hunger pains while fasting? i really cant imagine intentionally doing that to myself, i get them often and its worse than being punched repeatedly in the gut. ive had them for maybe 15 years now sometimes i cant take food down for days and its basically always day 3 when it just comes out of nowhere like a freight train. been able to get used to all kinds of pain but never that feeling its completely disorientating.
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not after the first week. i chewed gum for five days to avoid drinking, but i usually swallow it so had to avoid that. after that i didn’t need it. i guess i got some toward the afternoon after i thought about it, but it wasn’t that bad. i’m used to not eating all day sometimes.
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I’ve done intermittent fasting for close to a year now and have nothing but good things to say!
I eat two meals a day plus snacks, between 1 and 8. Morning stomach growels turn into NRG early in the program.
And I Set no rules other than limiting Bread intake. (Try to avoid eating Carbs with a Protein)
Weight has been super easy to manage
Good Luck to anybody that’s thinking about doing it, it is really easy to manage and maintain
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If you are eating a high carb diet you will get hunger pains at the times you would normally eat your meals. Once you gradually move breakfast closer to the last meal of the day your body will get more fat adapted switching from carbs to fat for fuel easily, instead of the body waiting for more carbs to be eaten and releasing the hunger hormone, grueling, to remind you to eat. The hormone is usually only present for an hour or so before it switches off again. If you start a ketogenic diet before you start intermittent fasting and become fat adapted your body will deal with fasting much easier.
You can use MCT oil in a coffee when you get the hunger pains, MCT oil is very close to the ketones your body is making so your body remains in a ketogenic fasting state.
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You’ll have hunger pains hit you till ur stomach shrinks down man, I seen another post were a guy said he waits till 2pm before he eats & it’s about the same for me. I’d say also like me he doesn’t get hungry at all until then.
Be careful on how much you let ur stomach shrink tho, I’m honestly lucky to finish 2 slices of pizza from a box now before I start hurting. Now I’m at the point we’re I’m eating to stay alive I’m a male that’s 6”1 & 116 pounds.
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This has always been the easiest stuff for me to take down. Like say salad with chicken or pasta with just red sauce.
I notice the most effective fuel in the afternoon is unsaturated fats, like almonds and walnuts or trail mix of them, even when having eaten earlier but having expanded a ton of energy and needing to go back out and do it again. In the morning it’s hard for me get going without the carbs though.
I should look into consuming more saturated fats maybe, and MCT oil. Always appreciate your wisdoms.
I’m 5’11 135 and probably 15 lbs lighter than I “should” be, and if I was working more often probably would be. Staying in motion has basically saved me. I hope you can find a solution for yourself.
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That’s my first food of the day at 5pm, 6 brazil nuts for the selinium and a cup and a half of walnuts with a table spoon of pink salt which is about 1200 calories. Quality fats like extra virgin olive oil, soak your salad in it, I will put a third of a cup on my salads with balsamic vinegar, make a really tasty dressing. If you eat bread in the morning fry it in olive oil on a low heat, it slows the glucose spike, most of my diet is designed to reduce insulin production to a minimum and keep me in keytosis.
My stomach has shrunk a lot, I can’t eat big meals like I used to but fats are very high in calories so you you don’t have to have large amounts of food to get enough calories in.
Really it’s re educating your body, it does not like change, when I started keto I was very low on energy for about 2 months. Part of that is the gall bladder being sludged up from carbs and not making enough acid to utilize fats properly as well as my liver. After 2 months things got easier, my body started to clean itself out and started to burn fats more readily instead of stubbornly waiting for more carbs.
Eating carbs and protein will also create an insulin spike, as more than 30 grams at a time of protein create insulin responses. If you are not insulin resistant, pre diabetic or diabetic, you don’t have to worry too much about combining them.
Fats, refined carbs and sugar eaten together cause cholesterol to stay in the blood as it’s cell structure becomes damaged by sugars and does not fit the receptors in the liver, so can’t be recycled or burned for fuel.
Basically you have the same problem as marathon runners hitting the wall as they call it. If they trained in ketosis and didn’t carb load before competing they would have no wall to hit as the body is already burning ketones and would not need to switch over from carbs lol.
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I think based on what you’re saying i need to adjust my protein shake, I’m probably going over 30g and I’m not diagnosed diabetic but I also stopped going to the doctor so thanks for that I’ll try to stay under that threshold now @Shadey.
I’ve been thinking all morning about all the different meals and how they affected me; and last winter I would come home at 10-11am absolutely starving to a semi bare fridge. I’d cook just bacon and eggs no bread and feel brand new, like I’d eaten a salad filled with raw veggies. I wonder to what extent by pushing sat fats out that I started to replace them with carbs.
Ironically eating small meals is hard for me though. Stomach is definitely expanding like crazy when I do eat. Regulating that down seems like some good common sense.
You’re selling me on the keto thing though. A buddy of mine showed me a clip years ago of a doctor saying all the same stuff in terms of using fat for fuel instead of carbs, and she also talked about balancing your omega 3:6 ratio to speed up the metabolism. I listened to the latter part and that was when all my remaining fat went away, kinda glossed over fat is fuel lol. Basically half the stuff I was eating had palm oil in it.
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That would be 30g in one meal not the entire protein for the day, in case I didn’t make that clear.
Yeah that’s not good, the only oil that the experts say we should consume and use for cooking is MCT, EVOO, Coconut, and avacado, but you still have to limt avacado, as it is processed and raises estrogen in the body.
Animal fats from organic grass fed animals, in meat and dairy is OK as well. Omega ratios are important to keep inflammation low, but I find it hard to get that 2 to 1 of 3 and 6 at best I am 50/50 but whatever I look at it’s usually got twice as much 6 to 3 and I use the EVOO to balalance it out. I’m a veggy but I eat a lot of eggs for the taurine.
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I skip breakfast and lunch and eat a small dinner, and sometimes not until 8 pm and a snack later, it depends on what I smoke and a certain prescription med I take at night. It’s not an intentional Fast, but the way my body has decided to work.
I thought this behavior wasn’t a great idea for me, as I’m a diabetic.
But this thread has led me to look further into Fasting and Diabetes and I learned that it was more of an issue for those with Hypoglycemia.
We have a kid who is very Zen that has it. He can get very moody. if he doesn’t eat a little snack and small meals throught the day he shakes and has anxiety. His Blood sugar drops like a rock.
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I’d caution everyone to look out for signs of hypoglycemia, while fasting, mostly those who are diabetics and on meds or insulin as their levels are or those taking Diabetes Meds, mostly insulin could lower their blood sugar levels and be potentially deadly.
That said, I see several Up sides.for the heart, weight loss, blood pressure and to help control of type ll
Diabetes, I’d just make sure you test to make sure your levels don’t drop too low.
Think I’ll try the 18/6 since I’m already close to that now. I just need to get trough the late night munchy phase, lol
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I’ve done many “lemon fasts” where you have lemon juice, cayenne pepper, and maple syrup mixed with water. I’ve gone 20 days on just that and felt great. Usually I just do 10 days. After 3 days (however long it takes for ketosis to set in) it becomes very easy not to eat and the feeling is very centering, very powerful. It’s not the hunger that brings me back, more the boredom of not eating. I do have much more respect for food now. It’s been a few years since my last fast. I used to do it at the beginning of every season = 4 times a year. @Shadey knows what he’s talking about
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Wow, that is pretty skinny.
Is that your desired weight?
I am 6-1 and 170 with very little body fat.
I used to eat whatever I wanted, tons and tons of sugar.
I will turn 58 this year and I need to stop that shit.
Fasting is something I have never done.
I feel the need to eat every 2 hours.
I am going to give fasting a try but the hunger pain is tough to stomach…LOL
My question is…
Should skinny folks fast the same way larger folks do?
I also suspect I am having issues with my liver but I need to get checked.
I am sure I have a bit of this going on myself.
This is all very new to me, I always ate whatever I wanted and never gave it a second thought, that is probably why I am where I am today. 
This describes me…mostly, I don’t always get shaky but sometimes do if I don’t eat for a long period.
I would also love to hear what you folks think of Autophagy.
Do you think that works to clean the body of viruses ect.
Thanks to all for sharing, gonna check out the links now. 
I would also love to hear what you folks think of Autophagy.
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I honestly would rather be about 160-170 like I should be for my height. My stomach has just shrunk to the point that I get full to fast & it hurts to eat anymore.
I probably don’t pick the best foods to gain weight either lol.
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depends on what you mean by fast. there have been several different methods described here as fasting. generally, the answer would be no, but some of the dietary fasting may need to be adjusted. i have no idea if there is an answer that covers them all. maybe a dietician would know?
This would be the type of fasting I would be doing.
Water only…
Studies show that to trigger autophagy, you need to fast for 16-18 hours .
Autophagy only begins when fasting in alignment with your circadian rhythm–in other words, it must take place overnight.
Current research suggests that coffee does not stop autophagy. Research done in mice indicates that coffee actually stimulates autophagy in several tissues.
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I don’t fast but I do slow.
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