Federal legalization in the USA, what does the future hold for cannabis?

This seems to be the new normal in the cannabis culture, I am speaking of the cannabis world in general.

At least here in michigan folks are snitchin’ on other folks all the time.
They had to recall hundreds of pounds cause someone snitched. :laughing:
The group that got in trouble (alledgedly) was ex state cops doing cannabis testing.
It was a pretty big deal, you may even have heard of that one.

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This right here…:point_up:

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:100: what this guy said… @logangrowgan2020 I like it all, but quoted only the best part.

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I always find myself liking stuff, when I don’t like it at all,but I agree.
Maybe a button says “I concur”, like Leonardo DiCaprio in “catch me if you can”.

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I believe the plant limit is 4 or 6 in Washington state

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the limit is for registered medical patients only, regular people are barred from homegrow completely.

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Very true, but in your statement you said nobody can grow. Just making that correction… and I do agree shutting down permits for commercial grows is not cool and do agree that everybody should be able to grow

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word you right homie - imma edit that post. thank you!

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I don’t know if “gets it” is completely accurate lol hahhaahahhaa

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Definitely agree with you on this point. It’s vital to health in so many ways and not just physical but emotional and mental health being the best it can be.

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Ya he’s incorrect on that point being “no home grows for anybody” OR, WA, CA, CO will pioneer for all the other states on legalization for both medical and recreational personal home growers “with limits”. It’s the limits that bother a lot of people. They don’t bother me. “the limits”

This race I believe has already started and it will get worse before it gets better.

That may very well be “the right vote” in your state at this time to protect what rights you have at the moment. Think about that one for a second. @buckaroobonsai

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I don’t mind the plant counts, but banning homegrow unless you register as a medical patient is ludicrous.

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agreed ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ :peace_symbol: even Ludacris agrees

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agreed, for real

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There is no doubt that you’re right about that Cole, In Nevada we were always a grow your own state, and for many years growing or having someone grow for you was the only legal way to obtain cannabis. But sure enough…in the same pen strokes that wrote legal dispensary’s into law… they also outlawed home growing.

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Must be in illinois…

Price everyone paid for rec legal… they should work the kinks out… until then…

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THIS x 200%

I had hopes of a micro-cultivator license. At first, it seemed attainable, the application / license fees weren’t too bad, the township resolution cost wasn’t too bad, hey, maybe this is a possibility!

Then the state started rolling out its guidelines / requirements. And KEPT rolling out more, and more. At first, I had everything lined up, wrote a 150+ pg business / marketing plan, wrote up some SOPs, basically had everything I needed for Version 1. Then the state moved the goalposts, added 27 new SOPs (many that you needed a lawyer to write to protect your ass, such as a product recall SOP). Then added more security requirements, including a camera system which you HAD to give login credentials to the CRC (cannabis regulatory commission). At first I had calculated about $10k to enter the game (thats just paperwork, not a single light, planter, or grain of dirt in that cost). Quickly became $30k, and shot upwards to the point I’d estimate most need $100k in this state to even contemplate it (And they still don’t have one item of gear, one bag of dirt, or one plant label for that $100k).

Some big MSO has a legal team that knocks out SOPs in their sleep. The little guy needs to pay big bucks for a lawyer to produce that.

Hate to be the realist… But for WHO? I believe every politician at the level where those changes can happen, is already in some corporations pocket, or on their payrolls in some way. We merely think we are free, when in reality, we are slaves being given limited choices by those in power, to make us feel like we have a say. Meanwhile, behind closed doors they are scrooge mcduck swimming in their piles of money generated by the limited choices they give us. Imagine if politicians were inherently moral, honest and out for the good of the people… Oh sorry, thats fantasyland…

I saw this firsthand in my state with the Zoom conferences that the states CRC did. Invite all prospective applicants to attend with questions. Answer only the questions they want, ignore the others, and instead of getting any input from the constituents, it was more like a show we got to watch, but not participate in. YAY watch 3 idiots in a zoom conference, who probably never touched a single bud in their lives, discuss how to craft the laws. Can’t make up the stupidity I watched there, thats just natural…

I’m gonna say 100% the opposite. It IS a PLANT. Thats their entire business model, PLANTS! And ya don’t think that the value of cannabis for medicinal research is more than a bell pepper? They modify those genes and then destroy neighbor farms crops because of them being pollenated with “patented pollen”. The plant IS their basis for most of their business, and you can be damn sure they place a much higher value on a cannabis crop than on a pepper crop.

If it was legal on the federal level, low level offenders should be released. Maybe mid and high level offenders should be released too, depending on the charges. I mean, charges of “dealing” vs. “dealing with a firearm” do say something about the prisoner. Maybe if ya got caught smuggling in 2 metric tons they wouldn’t look at you. But those busted and doing time for small time crimes that would no longer be a crime? Why shouldnt they be let out?

I think that depends on the MSO’s ability to influence the states. They have an interest in keeping it restricted, especially home grow. And its gonna be quite a few years before those MSO’s have gotten their fill and relax the pressure on the politicians. Why wouldn’t they try to control the market every way they can?

Thailand beat the US to that… They even gave out a million plants :smiley:

AMEN to that brother! Last summer when I saw the very first writings of my states proposed laws, I had hope! I was enthusiastic, and amongst all my friends, I was the one defending the process, saying we got it right this time, entry barriers for the little guys are gone, this IS do-able! Well, by December of last year those dreams had crashed and burned with the 3 major revisions to the states laws governing cultivation > retail. I didnt want to be an MSO, I wanted to be a craft grower. I wanted to become the Dogfish Ale Brewing Co. vs. Coors… Craft grown, small batch, connoisseur level cannabis.

And now I fully believe that its a rigged system, and our input was ignored. Lets face it, money talks, and those big guys have an endless supply of it compared to a micro-business.

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The CAOA has been filed in the Senate and a banking bill is in the works, but I’m not holding my breath. Federal legalization has been a long, laborious process that may not even succeed this year. A lot of the changes to cannabis laws were the result of grassroots activism and not politics; jurisdictions that have legalized have almost always been via popular vote. Legalization/decriminalization has been a “bottom-up” change, one that the federal government has been slow to even recognize.
5-10 years from now, cannabis will be legal and people will wonder why it was ever illegal in the first place, just like gay marriage. For example, I got out of the Army about the time they repealed “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” (DADT). I served when being openly gay would get someone kicked out of the military, and now all four branches are celebrating Pride Month. I never thought I’d see the day…
You’re right that decriminalization would be the way to go. Legalization=laws, regulations, scrutiny. It means those who pass and enforce the law know more about it and are in a position to make life really difficult. On the other hand, decriminalization means law enforcement will simply look the other way. It’s not so much what the law says as it is what the law implies. Legalization means a lot of resources dedicated to enforcement, while decrim means very few resources dedicated to enforcement (police are not going get warrants to kick in doors or send SWAT teams over non-criminal offenses). It also means any cop with a conscience can look the other way without getting in trouble.

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If the fed would only declassified this wonderful weed

Just think
It could cross stat lines with out worries

So no dispensary would ever be out of stock

A larger variety of strains to choose from

And to me most importantly able to grow at home

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Think about how ridiculous the FDA is sometimes: Alcohol and tobacco are harmful, yet totally legal, but the FDA tries to stop people from using them. Basically, our government makes things legal (and even becomes dependent on the taxes they generate) but then appoints bureaucrats to try to keep people from smoking and drinking. This is a situation so ridiculous that only the federal government would want to continue it.

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