I put my spectacles on for this?
Again you feel the need to make personal attacks?
Others have these same concerns…you do realize that.
They are genuine concerns, but you dismiss them without reason…Why?
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Please don’t put words in my mouth, I didn’t say or allude to any of that. I made a simple statement that countered you’re assertion that homegrowing will disappear, which to be fair, is a big stretch considering people have been homegrowing long before it was legal.
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I have made a thread to discuss worldwide legalization issues.
Every year it seems like more and more countries are legalizing cannabis. The United States is close.
What are your thoughts on strategies to best move forward with our own interests in a rising new industry?
What is going on in your region in regards to cannabis? Let us know and freely discuss.
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What about buying unpasteurized milk?
Where can we buy it, why is it illegal in some states?
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I think we are still a ways out from federal legalization, 10 years maybe imo.
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Get along kids.
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If this is the only topic on this subject then it should remain public and not be meticulously curated and steered by one person.
Well, if we can stay on topic, you know it’s fine to ignore comments from those you are disagreeable with. No one needs to respond to each post or reply from any particular individual.
Harassing each other is not a great look. Interesting for a few minutes, that’s about it. The casual observer will know what’s up.
And, @shag
Condescending responses and acting the victim is lame. Open your mind to others or ignore them.
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My point is these are genuine concerns and are based on logic and reason.
But nobody ever says why they could not happen.
Folks only want me to accept their view because they say so.
I have given a lot of reasons for why I feel the way I do.
I am open minded for folks to tell me why my reasoning is wrong, not just cause I said so ect.
Like what is the reason for feeling legal home growing will be preserved despite the reasons I have sited?
Like what is the reason for feeling big ag will not be doing its best to take over the industry despite their increasing involvement?
Like what is the reason for feeling medical cannabis will not be pharmacy only despite no other medicine being dispensed outside of a pharmacy?
Like what is the reason for feeling we will not have to pay royalties on a cannabis plant when we already see this playing out today?
Let us start there if we could and if you can show me why I am wrong I may just change my position.
But I do need a logical explanation, not just cause I said so.
i think it’s funny how you think any of us have any choice in any of this. it may be the best way to move forward but you take what you’re given, just like the rest of us, or you get nothing. unless you are willing to just start a revolution, and that hasn’t gone over so well since the late 18th century.
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While I do see your point, I feel we should at least try.
With the logic used here, there seems to be no reason to vote for or against legalization at all.
Personally if I don’t like what I am given, I will most likely not take it.
I feel we should stand tall for what we believe is right in this world.
If we do not, I feel we will just be trampled by the sheep.
Standing tall for one’s beliefs used to be the American way.
Not so much anymore. 
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I am truly open to compelling arguments that are factual and logical…AKA they make good sense.
I have heard very little of that.
Folks can feel free to pick apart the concerns I have listed above.
But I feel the counter argument should be based on facts and logic not just feelings.
I have provided logical reasons for why I feel the way I do.
I am only looking for logical reasons to change my mind.
I am totally open to opposing views but they really should make logical sense.
I don’t feel that is asking too much.
I do not disagree here.
But others need to be held responsible for their condescending responses so the playing field is level.
Ok. I agree there are genuine concerns.
I mean, just because someone doesn’t answer or refute your position or assertions doesn’t mean anything. No one is required to accept anyone’s assertions or world view. Present your viewpoint and support it with the evidence and information you have. The third party reader will come to their conclusions based on what they read and learn.
They don’t have to though. Correct? ‘Tell me why my reasoning is wrong’ is not being open minded. It’s more aligned with: I’m right, now prove me wrong.
Condescending.
Extraneous fluff. Buries the message. Repeated.
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Obviously that presupposes that we’d have the opportunity to vote for or against legalization. Some states do have voter ballot initiatives, but many don’t. On the federal level… legalization would require the support of a lot of people in Congress. I only get to elect a small number.
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Thanks for that.
None of the nay-sayers have said the same, if they did I missed it.
Good point, but if they tell me I have it wrong they could at least say why they feel this way.
I know they should not be required to, but it is the right thing to do.
Well, my bad there…
I was being logical, I did not mean to be condescending.
Fair enough.
But when my message is dismissed without logical reason I feel more compelled to explain my line of thought.
For example:
You may very well be the first to suggest that the concerns I have are real concerns.
So I guess I assume other do not see these as real concerns, it seems to fall on deaf ears, so I repeat things.
I guess that is one of my flaws and I will look inwardly and try to address things in the future.
I really am not trying to cause trouble here, just trying to get the message out.
I am willing to bet that most of the members here do not believe these things could possibly drastically change the cannabis world as we know it today.
Good point.
Fair enough.
This is a crazy thought I know…
But what if every cannabis user in the USA called their senator and representative every day forever or until something was done?
Quite the chore I know but it could be done if we stuck together.
As someone else said …“There is no such thing as real solidarity anymore”
But if that were to happen it would be such a thorn in their side, it would be hard to ignore.
My point is we can all do something to further the cause, rather than accept what we are given without protest.
Open to hearing all logical and sensible opposing views on these thoughts.
Societal revolution vs political revolution is a distinction that matters.
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MA has referendums which forced the legislature’s hand. Of course, the legislature complied but munged some of the intent and didn’t meet the timelines. They get their pound of flash. In the end, it’s not too bad. Homegrower’s are satisfied. They can gift product. There are licenses for micro growers that want to sell into the market, etc.
It’s not perfect and there has already been corruption and grift, but it’s good for the non-commercial individual that wants to stay below the radar without fear. Most non-cannabis folk are accepting since it’s not in their face all day every day.
The whole federal thing though continues to be a grey cloud whether commercial or non-commercial.
The ONLY reasons it is legal in MA is because of the referendum process.
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