Federal legalization in the USA, what does the future hold for cannabis?

The U.S.A. is governed by old ladies that are stuck in 1950.

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This is pretty messed up and some of what is wrong with current legalization. :frowning_face:
Florida is having a cannabis cup and Florida residents are not allowed to grow their own.
Therefore only licensed businesses can enter cannabis in the contest legally.
They should call it the dispensary cup:rofl:

https://thefloridacup.com

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Missouri had a “Growers Cup” but anyone that paid the asking price could sit on the judging panel. Once I saw that, I knew it to be a farce.

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I’m pretty skeptical about there being any kind of broad crackdown on seed sales, let alone private individuals sending other private individuals seeds for free. I just don’t see it being worth the government’s time investing resources on going after seed sellers.

Private individuals, I doubly don’t see there being serious enforcement, nor anyone doing felony time for seeds alone.

Complicating things further, if the Cole Memo continues to influence the feds, intrastate sales of seeds “designed to produce plants producing more than 0.3% THC” could still continue.

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the only time we’ll be in trouble sending seeds is if they start opening up first class mail. too easy to hide a few seeds inside of too many things. i sent 10 inside a hollowed out deck of cards to canada just to see if i still had the knack. it was ok, could’ve been a little better but it had the customs paperwork inside just in case even though i “forgot” to declare them and have the phylo certificate. and the deck could still be used for euchre with the cards i left in tact.

Laws change everyday. The government wants you to think “it will never happen” because you wont see it is “about to happen” until it “has already happened”. Look at what is happening in Thailand. Do not think the U.S.A. is any more advanced as a culture.

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I mean, sure? This administration or some future administration could rescind the Cole Memo and start enforcing federal law against state-legal cannabis operations, or could make serious moves toward federal legalization/regulation. OTOH inertia and the US government’s general inability to get much done tends to work against meaningful change in one direction or the other (particularly when monied interests want or don’t want change).

I agree, I mean, hydro shops that more or less openly cater to weed growers have operated out in the open for decades. At the end of the day it is a damn plant. It’s not like you need exotic precursors with tightly controlled supply chains to generate a little THC. So I’m not too worried. The main benefit of legalization for me is that it reduces the stigma for my little hobby I love so much. My first grows were done during covid isolation, then I had to stop once people were coming over more often again, then we went legal last summer and my wife gave me the green light. So I hope it stays this way because she’s considerably less down with the outlaw lifestyle lol.

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Keep in mind there was a time when going to a hydro shop was a bit more harrowing (nothing like the Operation Green Merchant days, but still). Always paid cash, tried to park down the block, never ask about cannabis or allude to it in any way, etc. I’m fairly certain I was followed by an unmarked SUV for awhile after leaving a shop once, a little under 20 years ago. That wasn’t the most fun ever.

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I wish you were right. I worked in rudementary AI & automation starting over a decade ago so I’m pretty good at extrapolating probable outcomes in that field.

Artificial Intelligence, low-grade xray/sonagram tech, along with “scent detection” tech will make the transfer of illicit material in the future nearly impossible. All it needs is a few thousand seized packages/envelopes to train on. It’ll be funded as anti-fentanyl tech of course but can be used for everything.

I think people do not yet realize just how much Artificial Intelligence will change the world & crush the counter-culture (as well as dissent of any kind).

I’ll put it into a concept I think anyone can grasp easily. Imagine you had a cop following you around all day, analyzing everything you do. How easy would it be to sneak a joint in? Certainly he has to sleep sometime, so you got a good shot. Now imagine you had INFINITE cops analyzing your every move. That’s what A.I. is, infinite cops. Along with facial recognition, drones, all those little ring doorbells on everyones house, phones in our pockets, Alexas & Google Assistants… total information awareness.

There will be no more privacy, internet freedom, as AI can quickly break encryption & scan all conversations worldwide in real time. (Probably already is actually)

Anyways the future looks like the movie Demolition Man, mixed with 1984 & Minority Report. Really depressing frankly. If I had to guess, we’ve got 5 years till it’s fully rolled out. Enjoy em :+1:

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nope. that’s your opinion. mine is that the ever-evolving cat and mouse game will just evolve again, as it always does and always will. until they can open and inspect every package they will never stop seed shipping.

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When and if that time comes… Oversmell the government (gonna run my hands through stinky flower and rub it all over the contents of every piece of mail I can get my hands on).

But yeah, I just don’t see it with the way things are trending ATM. If state-legal cannabis continues there’ll be too much legal stuff going on for them to waste time and resources trying to bust people for what will in all likelihood be a minor infraction.

ETA: The subtext of state regulators asking the feds to remove the “it’s hemp” loophole is so they can get seed producers to pony up for nursery licenses.

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I love the idea, it’s called “flood the zone”. Back when Snowden told us they spy on everyone… abunch of programmers suggested we all run apps that constantly send “target keyword” junk data everywhere to overwhelm the spy system. Problem is you needed a lot of people to do it & most people don’t give AF :sheep: Really smart idea though & I dig the revolutionary spirit :100:

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not really. you just need one well written login script set to run on a corporate system to run on all computers. much harder these days than it was when i did it back in the day. if you worked tech support at a call center for a well known financial company you can do that sort of thing almost undetected. you’d probably get prosecuted for it today though.

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I think my man @Gonzo has a good grip on where things are headed. :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

I still say sch.3 is not right for cannabis.
I also have a problem with the DEA making/molding the cannabis laws?

It is totally against the US Constitution for an enforcement branch to be able to write the law that it is to enforce. That’s a direct violation of the separation of powers of the three branches of government! The sole power of laws that are enforced must be written by the legislators otherwise they are deemed not valid. The legislation can be written to remove all criminal penalties thus making it legal such is their power. The DEA has the power to enforce the law as written not to make the law that they enforce!

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I just want to do my part…

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Hahahaha, hell yea @Senor_frijoles :+1:

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if you really feel hopeless, you can gather some friends, draft a legislative bill (and please, be ethical and nice) and present it to your local congressman. I think you’ll need to schedule a meeting on their house.gov page. example, if you want like, to open an international market for growers you could write a 10 page bill or something with friends on discord, just make sure it impresses congress

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yeah, wrap it in hundred dollar bills…

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https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4437224-democratic-senators-call-dea-deschedule-marijuana/

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