Federal legalization in the USA, what does the future hold for cannabis?

20 cigs a pack…so…1$ joints. Still cheap compared to current prices.

And I’m not saying they won’t tax the hell out of it but even taxes to hell it will be way cheaper if fed legal with interstate commerce. Fields of corporate sungrown cannabis. Harvest tops. Grind without trimming…put into cannabis cigs.

Again no one is NY is growing tobacco even at 20$ a pack.

Corps will kee the price point low enough so people go “eh ok growing is a pain anyway”

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Punishments for Violating Oregon Home Grow Laws

For a pro-weed state, Oregon comes down pretty hard on those who violate its growing laws. Under ORS 475:

  • It is a Class B misdemeanor to grow more than 4 to 8 plants for recreational purposes. This is punishable with a prison sentence of up to 6 months and/or a fine up to $2,500.
  • Meanwhile, growing more than 8 plants in an unlicensed grow site is Class C felony that can get you up to 5 years and/or a fine of up to $125,000.
  • This was last updated in June 2020. We will be updating this guide with new developments that may come out.

History of marijuana in Oregon

It’s not surprising that Oregon is now as cool with weed as it is now. It was the first-ever state to decriminalize cannabis in 1973. Thanks to the Oregon Decriminalization Bill of 1973, possession of 28.35 grams (1 ounce) was downgraded to a violation punishable by a $500 to $1,000 fine. The only exception to this is if the possession occurs in a public place within a thousand feet of a school for minors. However, it was only in 2014 that weed was legalized in the state through Measure 91 that allowed adults aged 21 and over to carry up to one ounce of marijuana, grow a maximum of 4 cannabis plants per household, and keep a fairly generous amount of 8 ounces at home.

Growing medical vs recreational marijuana in Oregon

There is no need for adult residents of Oregon to fulfill any requirement to grow recreational marijuana. However, medical patients and caregivers need to be registered in the Oregon Medical Marijuana Program (OMMP). To be eligible for a physician’s statement, patients need to have a qualifying condition and proof of residency. Once you’ve secured your doctor’s recommendation, grow site consent form, a copy of your photo ID, and filled out all other OMMP application forms, you can proceed to apply on the Oregon Medical Marijuana Online System.

An MMJ Card will cost you $200. This is valid for 1 year and costs another $200 to renew. However, it will only cost $60 for those on food stamps and $50 for those on the Oregon Health Plan. It even drops to $20 for those in the military service and those on Supplemental Security Income.

You also have to register your grow site so that the government can track it. The registration/renewal fee is $200, but you may be exempted from paying if you satisfy the following requirements:

  • You are growing only for yourself; and
  • You are growing at your own residence where there are 12 or fewer mature plants; and
  • You won’t be taking your cannabis to a processing site or dispensary.

The nitty-gritty

Link for 60.00 ounces at the closest pot shop
Track Town Collective Dispensary Menu | Leafly

I find ounces all the time for 30.00

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That was very well put together! @ColeLennon

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Anyone ever considered the obvious? Given that cannabis has no THC until it is combusted OR decarbed/cooked. That prohibition applies as the law states to only THC…this would inherently mean baked goods and other edibles with actual thc in them.

Why would the Fed pass a law like this or more specifically schedule THC making Space Brownies illegal?

The law was passed in the 1970s during the height of the cold war…

In order to protect American citizens from potentially contaminated/poisoned :nauseated_face: food products from “questionable” sources, THC was placed on the list of schedule 1 narcotics.

BAZINGA!!!. :grin: :drum:

:four_leaf_clover::four_leaf_clover::four_leaf_clover:

If it drops on the schedule and is not taken off the schedule, we are all screwed, then it would only be allowed with a doc’s script. We need it off the schedule.

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shadow cartels are still there, they are just selling or kids and grandkids fentanyl and meth instead of the devils weed “sarcasm”

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Yes, I agree!
And thank you very much for the work that went into that.
I found it very helpful and informative. :nerd_face:
Like a little window to the other side of the country.

Thanks again
Shag

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You can see from that info. Oregon has been protecting cannabis laws in our state since 1973. Homegrowers are respected here with their right to grow their own medicine and do so privately if your not a med lic holder. That’s the way I see it moving in other states also as our country progresses with legalizing cannabis nationally. but others have to VOTE VOTE VOTE in their state, regarding cannabis rights. :peace_symbol:

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As much as I wanna believe that common sense will prevail and they will legalize it and allow it to be grown just like any other plant, I don’t believe in my lifetime we will see this. It’s part of the black market and there’s a lot of hands in the pot and a lot of people getting paid off of it being illegal or taxing it in ridiculous ways.

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The pen truly is mightier than the sword. Of every situation, make a note of when lawyers get involved, and to what extent. The sooner and more heavily involved lawyers are, the more careful you should be. The legal cannabis market may become every bit as perilous as the illegal one. Lawyers do with briefcases what hitmen do with guns.
Probably the biggest reason cannabis is being legalized is money. Wall Street business criminals supported prohibition because of the government contracts involved with enforcement (the War on Drugs has squandered billions). Now those same business criminals want in on the legal market.

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yep you can bet if it can be taxed the govt will be there with both hands out

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And Cannabis will be the new (very profitable) “Sin Tax”.

The whole concept of Sin Taxes just pisses me off. What the hell right do they have to tax things so exorbitantly. The Tobacco Settlement created a horde of greedy states, look for the same with weed.

They seem to feel justified in taxing our pursuit of happiness. With Tobacco one could argue the states pay a lot of money in medical bills. What the hell justification is there for taxing weed. The only way weed ever cost the taxpayers money was when they tried to prosecute/eradicate it, otherwise there is no public burden. “Regulation” is the only taxpayer burden, and it wouldnt exist if they didnt try to regulate it.

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Well said brother man!
Yep, the same people who put you in prison for cannabis are now making big money from cannabis.

Cannabis used to be run by scummy drug dealer criminals, that is what they said anyhow…
But now it is run by suit-and-tie criminals, and these criminals are highly respected by society.

To me, it was just a changing of the guard.
But now the real hard core criminals with big money backing them up will be running the show.

Summary:
It is OK to be a criminal in today’s society as long as you got the money to go along with it.

Without money, you are just a scummy drug dealer.
That seems to be the perception today anyhow.

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Everyone speaks of lower prices being a benefit of legalization.
Prices will drop, but will they stay that way?
Will there be price fixing?
How high will the sin tax get?

Do you not see it, brother???
They are saving us from ourselves, without a tax like this you and I would just abuse the substance, you see they need to make it hard on us so we don’t do ourselves in.

It is truly their job and duty to save us from ourselves:unamused:

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true with any criminal enterprise if you got $$$$ you aint gonna be residing in the greybar hotel not for long anyways

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I am from Detroit.
A perfect example of this is Kwame M. Kilpatrick
Former Mayor of Detroit

What’s being done LEGALLY by criminals in business suits is many times worse than what even Pablo Escobar did. War, for example. War is, by far, the worst immorality ever perpetrated by man, yet it’s legal. In fact, the law is as much a part of warfare as weaponry. Strange as it may sound, when the USA launches drone strikes, there is at least one lawyer watching the screen, approving of every target and advising the operator and commander.
You’re right, it is appalling what words on paper (that’s what laws really are) permit certain people to do.

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‘Saving us from ourselves’ is the rationale they feed to the public, anyway. It’s horseshit, but most people believe it, or are at least willing to go along with it.
Winston Churchill once said: “The best argument against democracy is a 10-minute conversation with the average voter.”

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So, guys and gals!!!

The real question is then, “Is it necessary for THC to be on the list of Schedule 1 narcotics, in order to protect the American populace from contaminated food products ?”

It seems folks the the question has already been answered…:smiley:.

In all the states where recreational or medical cannabis is allowed, cannabis edibles are also allowed. It seems logical than that an antiquated law, which has in reality has been “bypassed”, which has no inherent benefit to the public which it was designed to protect, should be repealed. In this specific case, THC should clearly be descheduled and all prohibitions against it removed.

:grin::grin::grin: :exploding_head:

:four_leaf_clover::four_leaf_clover::four_leaf_clover:

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Preach brother.

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