Yes the mold was white desolved with bleach ,live and learn damn!!! My that’s a tough one to take beneficial you say,im sure if the soil I threw away has a bunch of new critters( I wrapped it in a tarp and put it in the back of and old truck,im thinking I could maybe just add more peat? For drainage,should I bring it back in? Full of new pests or write it off as a hard lesson learned?
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You got there once you can do it again
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As far as the grow is this morning,i had my first seeds come up from my last seed run 4 of them (from my fav here #50 original mother)and are beautiful!!!,also I had potted probably 16 clones from #302,and I am so happy that 9 are looking amazing!(have been hardened off) no more nursery for them they are on their own,im so stoked as I have such a hard time keeping up with the proper environment,i think my issue is temp and humidity,out of my control, I use the lights for heat a fan to equalize that and humidity,i also started two bag seeds that a friend gave me and one out of a mix pack from Jordan of the island,im obsessed about getting a god bud pheno,ive never had one ( only sampled a bit of God’s green crack once) I found that it was amazing for pain management,i ate like a mad man! And I love every thing that I have read about it,one seed at a time for me so I can really study and work with it,so today is such a beautiful day!!! And not even lunch time yet wow!!!
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we run in a similar gutter 
(agree with all your stances there).
what kind of climate are you in? i’m in central CA and as an example, am am abandoning fabric pots because it’s too hot & arid, they dry out unevenly, & then i over-water. so next time they’ll just line some big plastic grow bags.
the humidity here is so low that VPD is only available a bit in spring. 
even indoors i humidify as much as possible.
can you use outdoor/sunlight at all? a stealthy greenhouse might help you cut costs & get high quality light, maintain photoperiod with some screw-in LED bulbs. ?? you may have to grow some corn & peas though
as far as free medium/fertilizer…are you in a rural or urban area? they both have sources to compost from, but compost has a learning curve & takes time & planning if you wanna use it for production(good stuff is 3 years old). i set about to make my own media amendment with a massive worm compost but i’m sitting on 2 yards of it because i need a soil test to move forward. use as much Perlite as you can because it’s cheap & light, IMO. to that point, when i bring my 60% perlite indoor mix outside, it needs watering 2x as often as my outdoor 30% perlite blend.
if you can save all of your non-toxic waste you can make your own plant food. i even put my beard shavings in my kitchen waste becuase it’s about 50% Nitrogen & slow release. heh. i put every f’n paper napkin & used paper-towel in there too(i mean, it’s not like those “waste mgmt” assholes recycle them).
my med intake is about 1/2-1 zip a week and you can imagine the cost of crop failure here. luckily i made a friend who helped me tell corporate dispensary bunk to fuck off for the last & final time. (i ain’t in the business of making some asshole a weed-billionaire, or his bought-politicians). 
i can see you’re already economizing on containers 
i’ve been drilling a shitload of holes in mine, diy aero-pot, and am totally satisfied. 5 gal buckets are great.
is there a “craigslist” available to you? check that for free stuff. it’s random but you might score if you check it. even used grow stuff cheap.
sorry if the ideas aren’t in order to your questions, but i repeat: Perlite. it’s about 20$ for 4 cu. ft., you can re-use it until it’s sand.
flushing. can you score a Yucca or Aloe Vera plant? or even cheap, plant-based dish soap may help there. i am still looking for a way to use the 1/2 ft of Yucca root in my fridge. 
it’s the amount of raw yucca per gallon i need to figure out. definitely works as soap…even washed the dog with it.
bT for gnats, get a small container of mosquito bits or dunks & soak in dechlorinated h2o w/a tsp molasses. that should last you a while for less than 20$.
i do realize i just told you to spend 50$ & go shovel shit for your compost heheh sorry. 
another thought about using natural light if you’re in a non-legal area…is there are these small 8"(or so) skylights that use a reflective flexible duct & you have a natural light from your ceiling…& can even control it.
hmm. i’m high. l8r
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You guys have given me so much to research and try to understand,stuff I had to look up(vpd I downloaded a link to further look into thanks) ,stuff that needs attention,from containers (might have to make my own fabric type,think denim would work? Or hold to much moisture? Or something else)to rethink everything that goes into them (may go soil less altogether) I am to far north for anything to finish,although I do have some out there ,lack building materials,althought I will have to draw up some plans to build some form of controlled environment,s o that I know what kind of materials to look for,
A couple pics to check out,the really big ones are from a BC kush female hit with a blue berry male,the others are a mix if clones from the stable,i really neglect them ,I feel terrible,awfully resilient,incredible really,cheers for now,peace
PS.yes to use of a wetting agent,i forgot all about it,ive even used “sunlight” (the brand name of a dish detergent up here)years ago for planting on a slope,thanks for the heads up for use as a flushing agent as well
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Still trying to get some study time in and I pray that I can today!! I will be getting back to answer some more of your questions,I get it rough from my licensed provider uncured wet , nowhere near the thc content,I almost always need to let it air dry for a day or two (at least overnight) but my God they went all in on the packaging tho.busy couple days and plan to slow things down here’s some pics from last night I’ll try update later today,hope you enjoy!! I feel like I should say once again I’ve never been able to consume any of my own medicine ( not smokable, even my oil is crash and burn for lack flush and cure)
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The seedlings are looking great , I originally started with 13seeds from plant #50 (seems to be my favorite number)in 9 solo cups I have 8 seedlings from there so far,the two from the bag seeds came up,no real direction here, planted directly no presoak . bag seeds and the joti mix pack seed I did persoak, which I used a plastic bottle cap half filled with filtered drinking water,seen the three all crack with tip emerged,I should add that the bag seeds where one day ahead in all stages than the single joti mix pack seed,so their is 16 seeds in total that were down.
I managed to pick up two bubble wrap envelopes today , would like to go through and organize seeds to date and possibly send care packs to well two brave souls, preference given to the ones kind enough to offer me advice here a swap would be super but not necessary, would appreciate it if you would be willing to let me know when you get them,and how thing go,I don’t need any negative BS in regards to this matter,only to spread the love, peace and have a beautiful day,I’ll get back as soon as I can, I gotta go for now
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Sorry about not being very organized ,I read a couple other grow diarys ,there’s a lot that I could learn from them as well
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Your doing great. . . .everything will come with experience. To me you learn more from error than you do succeeding so either way is a win!
Keep it up bro and we try to help the best we can 
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Any way to move the light up some? You have major heatstress on the tallest ones. That would help you greatly in getting tighter nicer buds. The air in the close proximity to the element is going to be a lot hotter than just a foot and a half away. Talking 100*+ easy. Maybe work on training the next round to stay shorter if the light can’t be moved. Keep on plugging away. You will get there!!
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In regards to the care packages of seeds I’m looking fo give/ trade would need to be helped through the process,also need some kind of hint that someone is in fact interested
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Bro I’m sure they are interested. . . If you put a @ in front of there name like this @Ftlob
You can tag the people you would like to trade/give seeds too. . .but either way AWESOME brother. . .SPREADING THE LOVE!
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Thank you, your in if you like,I managed to get 2 more envelopes,be a complete collection,low dollar budget beans, from where ever I could find them I’ll put in a list of everything I know about them for future reference,wish I had pics of the tric production have only done seed runs because I had such a hard time getting any,took me years and I wouldn’t wish that on anyone, peace and love !!! Also a way to know that if I lose everything ,they live on!!!
@Hoodini
@Dr_Jekyll
@StevieG
@cannabissequoia
Have 4 envelopes for now plan on getting them out early this week ,don’t know how the PM system works and I am trying to learn ,if you’re not interested or just won’t get/ have a use for them,I’m sure someone will,I would have floored if this was available when I had started,peace and love !!!
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Sound good man I’m game. . .if you give me a week or two I’ll get some beans to kick back to you
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Sorry guys,I don’t think I’ll be tagging anyone after this,those interested can send me a message
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Sounds awesome brother,will need your info sometime before hopefully Weds this week,peace!
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the 
loves you for this & PMed you.
i’m stoked AND baked so i can’t really roll out my usual essay & random thoughts.
overgrow.com is definitely making the world a better place.
a Sonoma county newpaper (Sonoma Press Democrat) had an article on how to grow & harvest weed recently, and my mom passed it along. the 
is definitely getting weird. 
wow.
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Good day,I hope your gardens are thriving this morning!I am frustrated this morning ,I can’t seem to clone any of my existing,I’ve been waiting for rooted clones before I flower the mothers and it seems like all of my clones are rotting away,and my unsexed mothers are growing up so fast!!! Won’t be able to flower due to high restrictions,none seem to be rooting,here are some pics to show my anguish!!! 
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Sorry my system is not working,can’t hit upload button tried everything Im so fucking frustrated???
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