So is the only way to have decarboxylate hash is to decarboxylate the bud first? I’m just starting to read on the difference between pressed and not. Mostly seems to be a preference thing or convenience for carrying for travel. Is there a scientific difference as far as effects?
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No difference I can detect, that’s for sure. You can decarb hash or pure thca, it just requires exposure to heat. To generate some CBN, I put THCa into the oven at 225F for 45 min.
Now decarbed hash will have different effects because of change from thca to cbn. What would the general different effects be?
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CBN is made from THC after you go too far with the decarb. It’s the compound that makes you feel like falling asleep. That’s the shit I whip up for tincture.
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What percentage of cloudy amber do you harvest at
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And have you experimented with this ?
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Usually I go with 40%, but it’s about more than that. I also go with the smell! The stink reaches a peak level as well. The structure of the trichome also. Once it starts to slump over it’s reaching the end of it’s cycle.
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40% cloudy or 40%amber ?
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I think 40% amber. Once I establish the cycle I just keep going like that. 69 days on the big bud and meat breath.
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decarbing in the oven is just how we expedite what I understand to be a natural process if the hash or flower is stored correctly.
This is why I harvest, cure as normal and then store for a few months so the aging process takes place. Naturally decarbing the weed is what I understand. Then storing hash for months before it is consumed. If stored properly , the hash will be much different than when it went in.
I think what frenchy is doing in rolling out the hash is breaking all the resin heads to expose the resins and forming it all into a cohesive product. Then the curing begins.
I’m not an expert learned a lot from frenchy’s videos. Must watch stuff for any hashmaker.
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I keep mine in the freezer, so that it’s as fresh as the day I made it. I would personally consider “curing” to be a bad idea, since it takes a shit on the volatile organic compounds. Same with substandard dabbing tech like the hot knives. Terrible!
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Is it not just the plant matter that needs cured to smoke ?
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I don’t do that either 
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When I grow some buds and harvest them, I have this process. I hang them on the line after a wet trim. I leave them there for 4 days minimum before I give them a test. I just gently squeeze the bud and smell it. If I get a whiff of hay, then it’s got more time left. If there’s like a “soft” feel to it, and no hay smell it’s ready for a bag test. I bag an ounce in a large bag and seal it up. I leave it there for a few hours and then I open the bag and take a whiff. If there is some traces of hay smell I leave the bag open and the buds on the line.
Summary: only bag up the weed once it stops smelling like hay.
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gotta disagree with you there @JoeCrowe hehehe
My fresh made water extractions are dried, then stored for 6months at least in cellophane inside a 2inch dab puck which seems to hold an ounce nicely.
After 3 to 6 months the hash is pulled and rolled out like frenchy does with boiling hot water in an everclear bottle. It’s good that way but I like to let it cure again for another 6 months and that is where the magic happens as the oils permeate and become homogenous throughout the sample…
At that point the hash is reminiscent of the finest black afghan hash we used to get in the early 90’s here in BC.
Here are some pics of hash in various stages. The dark stuff being the finished product.
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I am willing to try both to help you gentlemen settle this.
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I jist got a 120 micron bag…can I put dry, frozen trim in there and shake over a mirror and make hash or what?
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Probably, but if you want better yield for that effort, add some dry ice. It’ll break up the plant material some so be careful if you try it.
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