I’ll head over there and do my intro, thanks. Came here to watch @Worcestershire_Farms Viet black thread but there’s some good info on this forum and plenty of breeders and preservationist so right up my alley.
from what i heard Hawaiian strains were derivering from Thai, columbian, afhani, all kinds of imported Strains. Not really hawaiian exists. BUT I would also think these adapted, and over 50 Generations were all shaped by Hawaiian Climate to a Degree…
You may still see strong anchestral Expression . But since it sounds like many outcrossing between those going on, you therefore have problems seeing the Thai in a Hawaiian, but since predominantly Mexican and Columbians were used (i recall), these Hawaiians look pretty often like Mex/Columb.
I always thought what DJ Short said about Hawaiian weed in that article “Strains of Yesteryear” was pretty interesting. From DJ Short: “ This led me to a hypothesis about Hawaii: that just about any stock grown in Hawaii will turn out to be of unique and relatively high quality. Hawaii just happens to be one of those special places, I suppose.
All breeding attempts with Hawaiian stock were dumped from my garden by 1983. It was a pretty and robust plant though, and also quite productive. Just not all that impressive when grown outside its homeland.”
Hmm… He says that of basically all the island herb, Jamaica and whatnot too. He couldn’t reproduce any of their effects when he grew it himself.
Maybe he was missing something way back in 1983… Like a nute or something that would be easily found nowadays. I doubt it would be solely from an elevation difference It would have to be something present or not present in the native soil’s causing the unique differences.
I doubt he was missing some sort of unknown nutrient that wasn’t available in 1983, but is now. More likely its the climate/weather/location. He was living/growing in the PNW then (and still is, I’m pretty sure) and the climate there, while rainy/humid, is pretty different from Hawaii. I don’t think it’s improbable at all that the combination of island air and weather would produce weed that smokes much differently than the same strain grown in the Pacific Northwest.
Well for instance, what if it’s a certain species of myco that grows natively in hawaiian soil that he was lacking in a more pristine environment. Or just a different ratio of nutrients causing a different effect in the high.
I just doubt weather and location(elevation? UV?) making a difference. About the closest I could see is, different air pressures causing differing sizes of the trichome heads produced by the same plant. Therein causing a differing high. Or additional UV from being near the equator.
Or it could just be something as esoteric (and debatable) as Hawaii being a vortex for growing weed, kinda like Sedona has vortexes for… I dunno haha! Spiritual health? What’s the deal with Sedona and vortexes? Anyway, yeah, it could just be something that can’t necessarily be quantified or proven scientifically, but is something deeper and more spiritual.
I dunno. Ask DJ Short haha!! I just love that article, read it probably 500 times. Always thought it was interesting.
Could definitely also be like that scientific paper that says there is zero molecular difference between indica and sativa, but here we are with strains that knock you out and one’s that give you anxiety.
Oh ya I appreciate the post for sure, definitely some great info in there and things to think about