Incoherent gibberish & Goji F2s. Also Bodhi adventures & pollen chucks

I grew Sunshine Daydream outdoors in 2018. I remember the distinct smell of buttery blueberry muffins appeared at day 67. I could smell it 7 feet away, as I approached the plants. There were 4 females, 3 smelled of buttery blueberry muffins, one smelled of mostly butterscotch and the last one smelled of mild berry. Unforgettable.

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Yeah, I just rarely consume butter so for me its more of an unfamiliar territory with recollection of smells. I guess the rubbery - citrus smell is very smooth as opposed to the usual sharp and offensive notes that you encounter in cannabis. I could see how that rubbery smoothness would translate to buttery. Mistaking for actual butter though? Even though I donā€™t consume butter Iā€™d have to guess most likely not haha.

Are you seeing any physical similarities with the SkywalkerOG buds youā€™ve had in the past? In person theyā€™re pretty much pure white with dark green bud leaves. Looks and smells greatā€¦

Thatā€™s so similar to how mine is. The intense blueberry muffin smell seems to just appear out of nowhere around day 70+. I think I actually like the smell of it harvested slightly earlier though. Weā€™ll see how it changes through cure. I havenā€™t had much luck retaining the strength of the blueberry muffin smell in the jar yet when I harvest in the mid 70s.

I could see butterscotch being a description for this, surely more than hot butterā€¦ Interesting!

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No. Yours are way frostier haha.

I could maybe see a little something similar. Itā€™s kinda hard to tell, just because those flowers are so small; I always got pretty decent-sized buds of the Skywalker (not huge or anything, but like two or three grams a piece), so itā€™s hard to compare, but yours do seem to look ā€œOG-ish,ā€ with that ā€œcalyx-yā€ sorta look. All the Skywalker Iā€™ve ever gotten (and pretty much every other OG, too) had those kinda ā€œfalling apartā€ flowers, where they were kinda chunky. Or whatever. Flowers that kinda broke apart calyx by calyx. I dunno if that makes any sense, but itā€™s the best way I can describe it.

@zephyr What do you think? Are those flowers looking OG-ish to you?

Either way, they look fucking spectacular. I wanna smoke some of them right now haha.

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Thatā€™s surprising, always figured OGs would be super frosty but donā€™t have much first hand experience. I know for sure Iā€™ve read about the extreme odor levels of ā€œlegitā€ ogs, which this definitely has.

Yeah thatā€™s how this is. The calyxes are almost papery feeling to me(not overdried) in how easy they break apart, but the trichomes Iā€™d consider to be high level of stickiness. Almost snaps apart even at desirable moisture levels. Odor is extremely strong on this too. There were zero seeds found in the bud that I sampled despite the calyxes looking swollen as if they had been seeded.

Thanks! Visually and odor levels are by far the most impressive that Iā€™ve encountered from a cross with the 88g13hp dad. Got some more pictures tonight after sampling some. These pictures came out much better than the previous round from using remote flash rather than flash on the hot shoe.




crop from above picture to see if I can retain the quality better for upload.

Currently they are ready for the curing process and was definitely pleased with my early sample. A bit better for dog walking than I anticipated but that could all change with a longer ripening process or more cure. While it was good for activities it was simultaneously effective at calming my mind with zero edginess. Great early impression and am really hoping the reveg works outā€¦

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The redeye jedi looks fantastic.

It does look similar. Iā€™d say these buds are possibly narrower, with more leaf mixed into the calyxes. I remember it looked like all the leaves were at the base of the buds, with just tiny sugar leaves in the buds that were usually shorter than the calyxes, and didnā€™t stick out noticeably.

I was going to say it looks darker than what I had, but with your description of what it looks like without camera flash it sounds very similar. The buds I had were always that light pale green, like most pure OGs.

The skywalker was something like (og x blueberry x mazar) right?

being a hybrid it had a potential for larger buds than a pure og.

Thatā€™s a good description of the characteristic og flower structure, dense chunky buds made of large distinctly spaced calyxes, with very little leaf. This structure is conducive to high resin production because the large distinct calyxes have more surface area. And like you said, they easily broke up into individual calyxes.

You can see that characteristic structure at the tips of the redeye jedi buds, especially in this closeup.


In general, this looks similar to what I expect from a hybrid made with a genuine og. Similar structure to the calyxes, more stacking compared to a pure og, different leaf shape, more leaf in the buds.

I have some phenos with a vaguely similar structure in a (goji og x [larry og x granddaddy purple]) hybrid that I am growing. Especially the goji leaning phenos.

@syzygy is this redeye jedi a snow lotus hybrid, like the goji was?

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Redeye Jedi is one of Bodhiā€™s creations using the 88g13hp male. The mother in the cross is listed on the pack as Skywalker OG.

Here are some pictures of the reveg attempt that may illustrate the bud structure a bit better. Excuse any seen dog hair, buds arenā€™t getting smoked anyways.

Appreciate all the feedback guys, I find this very interesting and donā€™t really trust the validity of most of the stuff that Iā€™ve read through searching ā€œSkywalker OGā€.

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those photos are great. Thatā€™s really interesting, I was going to say the appearance of the bud reminds me of one of the most memorable strains I ever bought at a dispensary called skyhash.

It was top shelf bud from SPARC (SF patients and resource center) during the medical era, and the genetics were listed as Skywalker OG x hashplant.

It sounds like itā€™s probably the exact same strain.

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This SSDD on the other hand is unfortunately quite leafy but in person the trichomes really pop and looks incredibly frosty. After doing a light trim I have decided that I definitely like the smell a lot more around day 60. Whether the smell is described as rubbery , buttery , hot butter or whatever doesnā€™t really make too much of a difference to me. It smells really good and more in line with my SSDD #1 and Bodhiā€™s crosses with the SSDD male. Looking forward to the day when smells could be shared easier in order to get more of a consensus on this stuff.

Early effects were very physically relaxing but not as mentally calming as Iā€™m used to with Bodhiā€™s SSDD offerings. Wasnā€™t anxiety inducing but felt a bit edgier than I expected. Not as calming as the Redeye Jedi either. I didnā€™t consider it ultra dreamy like the pheno tends to be when taken at 70-75 days. This can all change with cure and differing ripeness levels so not speaking authoritatively here.

New pictures of the SSDD that donā€™t really do it justice :

Yeah that sounds likely and even if by some weird coincidence wasnā€™t created by B it would almost certainly still be Skywalker OG x some other afghani.

  • Just saw the edit , ya seems very likely if it was x g13 HP.

From reading the various Bodhi forums throughout the years I know people held the Redeye Jedi in high regard and often saw it mentioned alongside his popular strains like Goji , SSDD and Black Triangle. Not sure how common this pheno is as I only germinated 3 seeds and one was a male. Sure am praying for a reveg.

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your bottoms look really good, if i remember correctly the two g13hp crosses i had wouldnā€™t re-veg for shit when i tried, but iā€™m saying that so you can prove me wrong, good luck (i had gnats) sounds and looks like a killer, my brother in law keeps asking me to look for a skywalker og clone, i didnā€™t know anything about it until this

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Yeah, me, too. I was never sure if thatā€™s just because of how they were trimmed or if that was characteristic of OGā€™s, but it did seem like every OG always had leaves at the base and not really anywhere else. Again, every calyx-y haha.

Ummm, I dunno. Iā€™ve read that before, but I donā€™t think itā€™s true. I know there was some Dutch seed company that had a Blueberry/Mazar cross called Skywalker, but I donā€™t think that has anything to do with Skywalker OG. Every Blueberry cross Iā€™ve ever smoked had pretty noticeable ā€œBlueberry elementsā€ to them, especially in the smell/flavor. Skywalker OG has never seemed like it had any kind of Blueberry thing going on with it to me.

Iā€™ve also read that it got that name because the grower who had that specific cut was named Luke. Whether or not thatā€™s true I dunno, but that seems more believable to me than it being an OG crossed to Mazar x Blueberry.

Love that place. If weā€™re ever in SF, I always make it a point to stop in there. Itā€™s been a long time since we were in SF haha, but thatā€™s for sure one of the better dispensaries Iā€™ve ever been to.

The straight SSDD that I grew for sure had an edgier come-up, same thing as yours where it lasted about an hour before it started getting relaxing. I chopped mine at 56 days, I think. Around there, anyway, but that was because she was insanely floppy and I couldnā€™t stop the branches from snapping, no matter how much I tied her up.

How come? Haha. Whatā€™re you gonna do with them? Hash? Orā€¦?

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Hopefully new growth starts growing out of them and if not theyā€™ll be too dry and questionable to smoke if not. Those were the reveg attempt buds I was referencing there. Everything else will get consumed haha.

Ya, I think Iā€™d describe this as very stretchy or floppy as well. Havenā€™t had any branches break thankfully but I do keep the plants smaller.

Ya Iā€™ve failed at least 2 (Black Triangle and SunRa). I didnā€™t do a root prune on this one so hopefully that helps.

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I preemptively stake any SSDDā€™s, actually I stake everything earlyā€¦ I hate wrangling sticky, floppy anything :slight_smile:

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ssdd x gogi og update going to be flipped in the morning all but the back right are the ssdd x gogi og real vigorous Gals :grin: @syzygy the stem ribs are really reminiscent of the ssdd bx I grew branching is similar too

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Something about the front left one reminds me a bit of the Goji male vegetative growth. Grain of salt because Iā€™m terrible at identifying plants in veg if they have relatively similar leaf blade widths and I rely heavily on a meticulous tagging process. Also have no idea what sort of traits were passed on from that male but hopefully Iā€™ve posted enough content of the SSDD mom in order to ID the mom leaners (if any). Your plants look very healthy regardless.

On the topic of the mom she is looking quite horrible after that cold snap still. Did a root prune and put in new soil so am hoping she recovers. Unfortunately trashed all the Field Trips because I donā€™t want to dedicate the time and space that would be required to nurse them back to health, re-pot, and then flower out after going through all that. Was planning on transplanting and then flipping but that cold snap + lengthy power outages really threw a wrench into things. I have a backup pack to visit at a later day so Iā€™m not really worried about the loss.

Have some new projects Iā€™m brainstorming for some time this year and am hoping the mom survives in order to be utilized at a later date.

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Looking good in here my friend. Deadly combo there Goji x ssdd I bet thatā€™s a pain killing wonder!

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Just love the opportunity to see more of the SSDD line. Good luck to you bud :heart::v:t2:

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You know I have a thing for SSDD, and I think Iā€™m trying something similar. Do you have the BubbaShine pheno? Iā€™m not even sure I know what that is, but Iā€™d like to :slight_smile:

If thereā€™s anything you see Iā€™ve got that would help your questā€¦ knock on the stall door!

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I was like wtf!! Then I read! Hilarious! You gonna F2 dat fire weed!?!?

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Iā€™m glad you got the triple sunshine! I messaged shoe about them and he said they were already gone. They would have joined my golden triangle and appy f3 next round! Thanks for posting and will be watching.

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Yeah, I know for sure and am following your thread with great interest! To me itā€™s really cool to watch what you & holy are doing and gives me some reference points.

I believe that I have the 10% BubbaShine pheno that bodhi described multiple times on the various forums. Having never grown a pure bubbashine myself I wonā€™t say with any level of certainty but it definitely seems to line up with his description to the T. Iā€™d like to have an abundance of different F2s made with it in addition to exploring some more SSDD F1s. Not making any claim or hype to the quality of it or anything like that, itā€™s just something Iā€™d like to have in the fridge on hand.

Personally I like the offerings using Bodhiā€™s SSDD a bit more than this cross, but I still want to have some F2s made of it for my own use.

KNOWN PHENOS: 70% hybrid pheno, bubbashine smell with bigger buds, nervous system harmonizerā€¦ 20% appalachia pheno, tangy chemy buds with dulingl warm blanket highā€¦ 10% bubba/blue moonshine pheno tighter kushy nuggy dreamy pheno

Appreciate your generous offers as always but until the climate changes it isnā€™t something I can consider at the moment. Just being able to read your guys information is huge for me and hopefully I can contribute some info thatā€™s useful to someone else as well.

Iā€™d lose the exclusivity status if I did that, they are more valuable sitting in the fridge!

Thanks! Iā€™m excited to try them as Iā€™ve been feeling like giving a TK cross another try but didnā€™t really want to revisit Black Triangle really with all the HP testing Iā€™ve done lately. I may be jumping the gun a bit here having only tried 5 SSDD crosses but so far Iā€™m liking what I assume to be the influence of that dad more than the others.

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