Landraces of India

I though those are extinct :thinking:

Interesting that pressure works like time does. That must be in part what is going on with that Southeast Asian cure method, tho the heat produced by the fermentation definitely plays a large role too.
@romanoweed I know time decarbs everything stored properly, but hash, unless homeade, hardly ever made it here. I find the pressing interesting.

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Decarboxylation is a reductive process brought about by heat. Basically a truncation of the thc molecule by driving off through heat carboxyl groups, making the thc molecules presentable to our receptors.

Time achieves a similar result, the carboxyl groups break still from the molecule, but other entropic processes break down the thc molecule in other ways at the same time so a net loss of the good stuff.

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Also when you smoke bud the cellulose burns quickly, driving off the resin in a vapor before it burns and decarbing simultaneously. Smoking hash for best effect you are careful not to blast it with the heat. Resin that actually burns is wasted.

My $1.95 lol

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Jelly Hash :

Done with very clear Oil and without pressure it stays white.

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This is sativa? Man you’re living right. :+1:

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Aiee! My mistake. Still it is beautiful.

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Also also wir, I think hand rubbed hash since it is kept in a mass while gathered, loses less of the vocs.

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I don’t know all the dry sift I keep as keif is super strong and I prefer it over pressed hash. Pressed hash tends to not taste as good and in reality is pressed into bricks for transport and smuggling purposes, now charas is a whole different thing as it is made by rubbing younger plants while traditional hash is made from mature harvested plants. They have different cannabinoids and ratios based on the maturity of the plant. Pressure exposes the acid (thca) to air and starts the process of converting to thc.
your bud is weaker after dry sifting because you are removing portion of the cannabinoids… the bc bud from back in the old days was always raped for its hash creating a lower quality herb then it already was.
Sorry if that offends any Canadians but bc bud was always considers a cheap lower quality smoke down here.

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This is what is going on i think. With South Asian cure, I’ve been told the resin melts into the bud. Maybe more even burning of resins/cellulose is happening because of this somehow.
I always got bothered when someone would hold a lighter on a fresh bowl of extra good pot for a whole entire 5 second toke, (with well cured, dry weed) roaching the whole pipe full and sucking down butane. Yuck. Barbaric somehow🤣, not that I haven’t done it myself😁 on occasion.

Sorry I’m just seeing this. They are definitely one of the biggest landraces with Indica type plants. Such a neat genepool, but not as overlooked in past breeding as I once thought.
Balochi pot, for those that don’t know, is grown in the province of Balochistan, in Pakistan. Its a Very dry region with poor or no water resources. While there are river valleys, such as Dasht river valley, many farmers use land away from rivers and use no irrigation, relying on sparce and unpredictable( sometimes hardly any) rains during the season. This is remarkable in itself, but even more remarkable is the size, stature and yield of these plants in such conditions, far outweighing any other dry area landrace I’ve seen. Typical under such conditions are the plants of Morocco, Lebanon, and the Hindu Kush, all of these being small plants. ( big Afghan plants exist, but are irrigated, or sparsely flowering)
A good Balochi specimen can be 18 feet tall, looking round like a Cali strain, with large colas leaning over from the weight.
Another interesting fact about Balochi I’ve talked about before is that its literally the smoke of royalty. (Four?)hundreds of years ago, the Balochistan area royalty ( formerly in both Pakistan and Iran) had cannabis farming families gardening for them inside walled compounds, often for generations. The locals wrote of the intoxicating scents wafting over the walls. The effects of the finished product were legendary, with each family growing their own heirloom, much as today.
This Balochistan landrace is reputed to be the ancestor of a famous Iranian landrace called one puff, that exists or existed on the North slope of the Elbruz Mts. just South of the Caspian Sea in Iran, where the Balochi People migrated from in the 1300’s.( earlier they lived in Aleppo, Syria)
Cannabis growers or breeders in dry climates are missing out if they sleep on this one. Why grow plants that require water when its such a hard resouce to get? Time to smarten up😁 and when legal, don’t forget to send me a sample as a thankyou lol.

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I imagine they must grow slowly with little water. Amazing they get so large.

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Oh my misspent youth. LMAO

It truly is. Excellent breeders. I had no idea some of these massive Balochistan plants were not watered until a month ago. I was shocked.

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It’s good plants aren’t sentient. We’d be in deep fertilizer. The original tough mfers. Lol

Ok before someone says they are, even if so they obviously don’t bear grudges. lol

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As I’ve said before, my goal is to breed a giant, high-CBD strain, and I’ll start by crossing Nepalese with Balochi.
One thing I’ve been wracking my brain about lately is that the THC:CBD ratio of hash cultivars can vary greatly from one plant to another. How often would one encounter a CBD-dominant plant? I’d be rather annoyed if, in the process of breeding the aforementioned strain, I ended up CBD-dominant flower. I’d be annoyed if that happened under any circumstances, actually. How do breeders deal with that, or are CBD-dominant plants so rare they don’t have to? Or are there worked pure indica strains that also grow very large?

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@Herrsquidward You can expect 25% cbd dom, 25% thc dom,50%mixed ratios. It took me years to get rid of the CBD in my Afghani. In the end I picked male plants that had Hollow stalks, and in one year went from 50% potent to 100%.in one lineage I keep
A good method some breeders use is to reverse their male plants and smoke them to determine if they are thc dominant.

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What is reverse, and how do you do it?

I mean spray with sts ( gibberellic acid, correct?)and reverse their sex. Then you can grow them as females to smoke them and see how potent they are. As an option, some people smoke the males…or make oil
I’ve never toyed with sts myself, but plenty here on OG have. Easy to get help.

Hollow stalks are also indicative of THC-dominant males?

Could you also test the cannabinoid ratios? Of course the percentages would be different, but the ratios should be similar.