this might be the best post i have seen all week … LMAO poor dog is gonna be like wtf i thought u gave it to meeee!
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@LoveDaAutos I can only feel like this directed towards me, because I am. It’s only because I sit at works for 12 hours a day and usually only have an hour or two of work to do. Then I leave work, and get back on here again because I don’t have any friends and being on here trying to interact with people makes me feel like I do. And if it’s not me your talking about, I haven’t noticed anyone else on here that much, so don’t know who else it would be.
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best not to take anything personal man. when i first joined i was on here reading 12 hours a day and have now made many awesome internet friends and ditched my real life ones! so just enjoy and have fun buddy
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I’ve learned not to take things personal. I can’t really imagine that it’s me he’s talking about, since I don’t think I won anything today and that was something else he had mentioned. Basically just commenting since I don’t notice anyone on here as much as I am. Plus I like LDA, I’ve followed along with a bunch of his grows and everything is top notch! Like I mentioned, I like the interaction 
Edit: plus I don’t think anyone that really knows me on here would say I’m just here for free stuff 
Edit 2: plus I quoted his original comment on the co-op box thread so everyone could still see it since I don’t like things being censored.
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@Cormoran
you just made numbers make clear that WE ARE ALL HOARDERS sooner or later 
there are a number of packs in all of our fridges (yes, all of us, mates, please be honest)
that we want to grow but may never get to in the end. that’s just plain truth for most of us.
@DougDawson
well said, brother. we decide what we give away, and to whom …
there is no point in attatching strings to anything given away, imho.
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haha, i have indeed passed beans to people that talk bad about me.
that’s not my problem. if they accept and just act nice in front of me
(just for the beans) they do load up bad karma on themselves *shrug *
(and i get the good part for being nice, lol … that’s a win in my book.)
but honestly:
whatever people think about me is of no importance, really.
this here is about plants, not people.
some of my shared lines even found their ways into shops or were sold privately.
but i don’t grudge over money “i did not make” (pff, lol). it was free seeds, duh.
if anyone feels like he needs money and those help to create the funds.
then it’s AGAIN just good karma for me (and bad karma for others when
they had bad intentions from the get-go) … either way: it still all happened
after i did my part and don’t need to further care about what happens next.
my motto:
i am honest
i share my wealth
i am nice to everbody
= i win, lol.
the more “selfless” sharing happens, the better, imho.
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it’s all fine in the end. some people HOARD rare / fine / expesive wines
in big dedicated cellars and don’t drink it for decades (sometimes never,
or they even sell them again ect.) … that’s no different, imho.
also … @gonzo is right too, ey.
i do see MOST of the collectors sharing and trading themselves too
many of those helpful trades / shares happen via pm, outside of open view.
i think a good thing to do is forget about the seeds (in terms of what happens
to them) once they leave your hands … just share and move on, cuz sharing
with strings attatched is kind of “nice, but with conditions” … i rather just be
nice (or not), period.
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@shag has summed it up really good.
it’s absolutely okay and understandable to feel like @lovedaautos does (!)
my humble opinion is not supposed to attack lovedaautos’ concerns. they are legit!
i just feel the need to express “a different kind of sharers’ opinion” in contrast to his.
but “timmy” does not really need to feel left out at all. just send him to me.
because: whenever i share, i try to make sure that i have enough for all
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that’s it brother 
just pick the ones you actually care sharing with
and skip the few you feel may try to only take advantage. the main
thing is, to make sure that you feel okay with your own decisions.
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Good to see you back @santero ! And glad to hear that the RSO is helping your wife! Hopefully you guys can find the strain with the most long lasting effects possible!
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I’m feeling hella stupid right now, but what’s a TL?
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Tier level
TL 1 just joined
TL 2 member
TL3 regular
If someone TL2 but has emeritus badge ( been here longer than year ) then they can sign up on TL3 spot or TL2 whichever is free
TL3 can sign up on TL3 or TL2 if that’s the only spots left free
TL2 can only sign up on TL2
And TL1 can’t sign up till they reach TL2 status ( doesn’t take long now days I hear )
@Wizzlez your a member TL2 but you have anniversary badge so you can slip into TL2 orrr TL3 as you have emeritus status
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Been here a year already? Time flies 
I currently feel half-bad for not having returned 2 trades. Still within agreement, I’m supplying an art piece for one and the first piece I made wasn’t easily shippable, so doing a drawing this time but drawing, to me, comes only when the creative spark is there, which makes me feel some imposter syndrome feelings, and the second trade is a different story altogether but that’s with a member who has had his share of troubles lately I hear and I don’t want to put any pressure on that deal or on people.
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……… when your havin fun : )
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One hour and a half to read till here. 
Well, I’m a seed addict/junky… call it whatever. I have tell it openly in some threads.
I have some strains in my fridge/vault, and the plan is grow them sometime. I collect them, but not for saying “I have this”, but more for “I will grow this”.
I have spent more than 1000€ in MrNice and TRSC seeds. A month’s salary, addiction… that is.
I have received many from this community. And I have given back (if it could be said so), many many less than I wanted. I bought some MrNice seeds only to giveaway here, because I do not have my own seeds yet and feel contagious to me the sharing and generosity, and that is the reason because I am keeping males, to make seeds so I could give back.
I have always pretend to be honest and clear to people that put conditions on giveaways, If I can’t meet the conditions, I inform the giver before and stay away.
If someone see my grow diary, he/she would see that I try to grow what I receive as testers (as soon as I can-I have still some testers waiting for space). (The problems with space, always reminds me something that I want to forget 
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Well after all this long text, @LoveDaAutos I feel someway identified with what you say -collector-, but I don’t feel bad because I think that I am not doing a bad behaviour. I don’t think it is greedy to try to have a strain that I not have, I think greedy is trying to have many packs of the same strain.
I could tell for sure, that almost all the people here have more seeds than they will be able to grow, and that don’t keep them away from giveaways, dibs or anything.
With respect to “the horde” calling people to some thread giving seeds, I must agree. I personally don’t like people calling others to some thread to collect seeds, when that persons are not following that thread at all (and I am not referring to the FSFC thread). But I think that it is the thread owner who has to say anything about that, if he/she don’t cares, I don’t care.
You are saying that you were addicted to collecting, but you see your side well because you buy and trade it. What makes your side more correct than the side of one person that collect it from someone that is giving it away?
I see your point as “It is good if you have money earned working, but if someone gives money to you, you have to refuse it because it is bad”.
In some things you are right and in others I disagree. If you don’t want to have relation/associate with me then it is up to you.
I saw no personal offense in your thoughts.
Long text, sorry, many “I…” ,“I…” “I…”, resembles to me the church “I confess before Almighty God, and before you brothers that I have sinned much in thought, word, deed and omission. Because of me, because of me, because of my great fault. That is why I pray to Holy Mary, ever Virgin, to the angels, to the saints and to you brothers, to intercede for me before God, Our Lord. Amen.”
And I am not a religious person.
EDIT: Sorry for misinterpretations and excuse my bad english.
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I’ve personally lost idk 3-500$ US “giving seeds away” that are somewhat fancy, to have them reproduced, only to never see them grown out. It happens. Just makes me use the site less cause i like the community less. Learn from your mistakes cause theres ALWAYS going to be bad apples.
Now ACTUAL free seeds with no prerequisites, maybe in the thousands, if you were to buy them online? I vet people i give seeds to, if youre only in threads for free seeds i usually decline. There’s an enormous difference between someone who wants to grow and cant afford to and someone collecting seeds to sell for a profit or whatever these folks plan is.
But, like i always say, i wouldnt be where i am in the weed game without the kind souls from OG.
I’m all about helping people out, I give free seeds to whoever will take them IRL. I have folks parents growing my weed for themselves and it edsentially cost them nothing but their own hard work and time to get their medicine. I sell them cheaper than anyone you’ll find specifically to overgrow the world.
But i do not take kindly my generosity and good intentions being taken advantage of and on top of that dont have the time or energy to be worried about vetting scammers anymore. I’d love to get more seeds out into the world but guys like these are putting a dent in my abilities to want to go through the extra work.
In regards to motifs and people and the like, yall gotta remember we’re only a few hundred years removed from shitting in the streets and burning witches for magic. Not realizing disease spreads by your breath and touch. We like to think we’re very advanced and civilized and we’re not. So youve got to keep our monkey genetics and all of the survival tactics leftover in our genes in the back of your minds when considering why anyone would do anything.
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i am very interested in them but not for this growing season. do you have any lines on some regular hemp that we used to call ditch weed? i want something that will give you a splitting headache in two tokes if that exists. planning on growing some industrial hemp for “research purposes” so i can legally grow weed in wv. i need some huge ass hemp to put in the field the first year or two so the residents will get tired of stealing my weed before i grow the good stuff outside. i plan on putting up signs every 10ft warning them not to smoke it because it isn’t pot and may hurt you. then putting up a camera to watch the fun so i know who to mess with if i see them around town.
amen brother. not just to this but the spirit of your comment, the rest of it. you called out the thing i didn’t catch but felt. i read this whole thread, some as it was going in, and some after the fact like this morning, and had a feeling i was missing something in the original post. you nailed it with that part and it jumped out at me because i’m catholic and say that every sunday. thanx. have a great weekend everyone.
that is something we don’t keep in mind enough these days. we are essentially not much more advanced than other animals and are nothing more than animals ourselves. we are doing a pretty good job at advancing, but until we can get over some serious hurdles as a group, we won’t get much further and n fact, could start regressing soon as a species, no matter how advanced the tech gets.
one of the main things we need to overcome is feelings like the one that started this thread. that kind of thinking leads to exclusion and folks like the op is bitching about. if everyone always had a chance to get whatever everyone else got simply by asking for it and everyone knew it, then greed would disappear shortly after that. the only reason those traits were passed down is because they were useful for survival. when they become useless they will disappear. if you have access to anything you need by just asking for it then you will no longer need to contrive stories or steal it. it won’t get there in my lifetime or even the lifetime of my grandchildren i would wager and the youngest is 4 now, but i have a 20 year old son. maybe if we start publicizing the problem we can start working on fixing it. or i may just be high, who knows?
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I think the main issue in the thread is it takes 6 months to do a seed increase, and 6 seconds to claim some beans.
Seems like it hasn’t slowed down good weed getting around, though.
I’ll admit here, near the sharks smelling the blood of the inconsiderate, I’ve grabbed a couple more beans that I can reasonably do a seed increase for. Doesn’t mean I’m not trying, but the difference in time between 6 seconds and 6 months makes following up in a timely manner a little difficult, especially when there is a unique joy in being part of the frequent festivities.
OTW and don’t sweat the little stuff! 
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and it’s all small stuff!!
i tell folks all the time if there are no incoming mortars or rockets and nobody is bleeding out it’s not an emergency and we have time to figure it out.
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Oorah, now THAT’S perspective.
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there are exceptions, of course, because i jump out of planes for fun but still true 99.9% of the time or more.
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I just cant help myself. There is no restraint when I see blueberry, Bodhi or Iconic strains I tried in my youth that are no longer around. Other strains I pass on.
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You got to be in it to win it!
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Love your optimism and perspective 
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