How is that proof? Can I examine the writings and prove them false?
No, but I guess thatâs why they call it faith.
You actually can if you want, just compare the four gospels and they contradict each other on certain things.
/me runs for cover
hah hah thatâs a really good answer. You ever wonder if your god can microwave a burrito so hot that they canât eat it?
As a combat vet, who has looked at death more times than I care to admit too, I know one thing. I would rather believe in God and be wrong, than not believe and be wrong. Life lessons for me.
Pascalâs wager is indeed an excellent basis for true belief.
Hahaha, I will take it As most others do also
what if you are betting on the wrong god?
Someone is always wrong But I find no issues trying to lead a decent life, and if if attributing that to whatever you like, is it, then so be it. We will all find out one day, itâs a debt that comes due to us all.
Risk vs reward. If youâre right; hey you get your afterlife. Youâre wrong well⌠say there is 100 religions. You had a 1:100 chance of getting it right, yeah? But a lot higher chance in getting it wrong.
Some people arenât plagued with endless questions in their head, lucky bastards.
So what if youâre wrong? What if the religion you chose is wrong? Well⌠I donât know. I believe the topic was to hear what other people think not repeat our own thoughts.
I know this is the problem with pascals wager, itâs got no chance of being right. What about in a thousand years an alien race shows up and they have their own god they can prove exists and their god is very angry that you were worshipping false gods. At least if I donât believe in any gods existence, a real god would be an intelligent being and know that I canât believe in things that have no proof.
Itâs especially got no chance of being right because any halfway decent god would know if youâre choosing to âbelieveâ based solely on pragmatism⌠of course, any halfway decent god wouldnât be condemning anyone to eternal torture based on personal worship or lack thereof, thatâs a human trait and a rather petty one at that. Iâd still rather just let people believe what they want, most of the time itâs not worth the argument trying to convert anyone⌠and I have nothing much to convert anyone to, unless shrugging and smoking another bowl is a belief system.
yah but the underlying theme of betting on gods existence is what can be proven to be false. Have you ever tried to calculate the permutation or combination of infinity? Thatâs what pascal forgot to mention. Any god from the past or future could exist after all, with no proof.
In Hinduism and Buddhism, nirvana is the highest state that someone can attain, a state of enlightenment, meaning a personâs individual desires and suffering have been transcendedâŚ
âShunyataâ - the unmanifest, the void, emptinessâŚ
heh heh for sure itâs derived from the sanskrit world for âextinctionâ.
the buddah described it as:
âincomprehensible, indescribable, inconceivable, unutterableâ
Then like⌠teaches you how to reach that place? I wonder if there are any dogs in nirvana?
the teaching - it is not the desire or wants - but rather our attachments to them that cause suffering - dukkha
nirvana might be thought of as heaven - but it is not a place you go when you die - better understood as a state of mind⌠so yes for dogs - until they get really emotional stressed⌠just like the rest of us
ooof yah⌠I guess my far darker question about Buddhism is why they can do the eightfold path and the threefold training and still commit atrocities against say⌠âother religionsâ cough sri lanka. I know itâs an ugly can of worms. Shit, that is a lot darker than my original softball question.
Yes, no atrocities have been committed as a result of science.