Light deprivation, an organic tale in mid Michigan 2020

Hi Growtogrow, nice set up you have there. I have just started to watch Dr Bugbee on YouTube, was watching the far red information on Friday which was very informative.

I am thinking of adding some far red and UV to my home made LEDs sometime soon.

Going to be following along with you, I like the idea of this outside / inside crossover with tarps and lighting.

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I too have been drinking from the pond of Dr. Bruce more recently, came across his site looking for various calculations to spec and build a DIY array a la Mr Sparkle, super informative. I too am looking to add some far red into my new array.

Thanks @Growtogrow for sharing your setup, Light Deprivation is super interesting stuff and you clearly are leveraging it properly!

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Hey @TerpSneeze thanks for following along in my chaotic grow

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Hey @Shadey
it’s good to have you along…yeah the inside-outside is pretty much mandatory for growing big crops early in the season. The summer here is fair to good weather back to crap and bad weather again Hahaha… But it starts around April March right in there I could actually get out there in March if I want to heat it for a month or so And I which I did this year. We had hard freezes all the way up to May 15th it was a cold start but still better than last year where we had overcast and rain all the way into the beginning of June… but I still got a good crop off…But it’ll last until the late October usually don’t get a good freeze and until around Halloween here in mid Michigan.

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@TerpSneeze yeah when you got everything optimal lighting food water airflow the right humidity…it’s kind of like a race horse or a NASCAR once you got everything tuned it’s hard to lose. What I tell everybody is " know what you grow "…study study and study some more and if you’re not ready yet well study some more…because it seems like you never stop learning there’s always something new about this growing cannabis. I’m sure someday probably when we’re all gone…whom of us are reading these threads today…maybe they’ll have it all figured out like the commercial crops they run everywhere around the world.ie.corn wheat beans so on. But until then I guess we get to play and figure it out on our own…

thanks for the Kudos on the light. It’s also a DIY light mover…I have it set up with a grill rotisserie motor and it moves back and forth a quarter turn in each direction so the lights cover the entire room never it sits still and that is optimal for plant growth.
The lights are all 315 CMH lights various spectrums I have 41k 4K 31k 3K and a 10K so I’m covering the light Spectrum pretty well… once I add the far red light bars. There’s not much more left that I can do I think besides just improve on it with better technology as it becomes available.

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That’s really interesting, thanks. The concept of intentionally making a plant stretch then getting it back into more full light is very clever!

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@Growtogrow
Very interesting thread brother …pulling up a chair

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Good to see the light dep! I am experimenting with that this summer. Been pulling tarp for close to a month. Good thing for Covid or I would be missing travel… Maybe in the Fall… Or winter… Or maybe I need a rotisserie grill to pull for me!

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@livingthedream
Welcome
Good to have you a long for the ride

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Good to see another light depth grow person… married to their grow LoL
Where in the world are you?
I’ve been tarping this first crop now for 11 days. The most of the girls are
showing good bud sign now. Some are showing large colon development and structure.

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Growing in Oregon. light dep
This is an experiment.
So far I have pulled one MM male and down potted a surprise Sour Pineapple male - CBD Dom (bagseed, Hhhmmm)

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I’ve a good friend who live in there. He has been doing light depth for a good while now. He is all organic making many different type of home brewed teas. And has a small to mid size green house w that he work’s out of and also he runs led lights go help with overcast skies.

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Cool! In the old days I would have suggested sitting down over a bowl. These days I prefer to bring my own.

Last year I struggled to keep my girls up in the face of September-October bud rot. Hope to finish them much earlier this year. At least the ones in the covered bed.

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The dreaded Bud Rot…Man that stuff is relentless and so is the Powdery Mildew. But You can fight those. You got to really pay attention to your plant in order to catch the BR before it can get away from you.
Bud rot will leave tall tale signs when it’s in your bud. It’s not hard to spot and usually starts with a little tiny bit of a yellow spot or yellow leaf that in the bud. You can grab that bud and get it out of there and spay the plant with hydrogen peroxide and water mix h202. Were you take a regular quart size bottle of hydrogen peroxide that you can get at any drugstore or Pharmacy or grocery store of 3% hydrogen peroxide and mix that to 3 quarts of water. I do this every harvest inside or outside…rather thay have Bud rot or not mildew or anything else I always wash my entire crop before I harvest it all. You can spray it on as a foliar spray and or you can take and use 5 gallon buckets and just simply wash your buds before you put them into the drying stage.


So these are pics of washed or washing buds … (do not be afraid of washing your bud). Don’t worry about washing any of the thc off. The trikes don’t wash off. But what h202 does wash off is bug poop bird poop dust dirt grime all that stuff washes off the plant and you are left with awesome tasting bud when you finish the whole drying and curing process. I do my trimming after I washed a branch with buds on it…it’s so much easier because the hydrogen peroxide adds the extra oxygen molecules. that lifts the grime off the plant leaving nothing but plant flesh. You don’t have to worry about your scissors so much getting gummed up with resin cuz it slides right off your scissors and sticks to the plant it doesn’t stick to your hands… I’ve been using this practice for about five years now…My average harvests are very large and I have friends of mine working with me and we get a lot done in a short time using this method. After the trimming is done and manicuring. Then I lay the buds on screens to let them dry or I’ll hang them with the branch and hang them on a hanger to dry some but not to cure just to dry. And not dry crispy but dry to the point where 3 or 5 days like that. Then we go from there to the jar curing and or vacuum bagging and freezing for long-term storage and in the future I go from the freezer To the jar cure process. I also been doing a lot of sun drying. I and my homies like that a lot…these methods I’ve found to be the very best way of keeping my AAA bud fresh every time you grab a bud and smoke it. I also use Bovada 62% humidity pack’s in my jars to keep my weed the way I like it and the freshness it can be all the time. for up to two years if my jars ever lasted that long LOL.
there’s a lot of different people out there doing a lot of different curing processes but I found these ones to be the very best for the very best flavor freshness storage and usage.

oh yeah I almost forgot I used to 34% hydrogen peroxide because I use such large quantities it’s cheaper for me to buy this way and dilute it down to 3%.

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@AllOra… I know right love to smoke weed in groups. it’s my favorite thing to do actually I don’t mind having my own bowl or joint that doesn’t bother me so much but it’s the comradery of your friends. ! I’d like to introduce Skully.

Skully’s has evolved over the last couple of years he started out as a hookah pipe and now is something else20190203_220817|281x500 I’m kind of a bong officiato. As I love to smoke out of bongs and pipes that’s my primary way of getting my medicine. And I’m known for creating most anything LOL into a bong or a pipe. From sticks and twigs two rocks anything in between natural or unnatural LOL old Scully got his head crack though and I have to fix him or by another skull. ! (upload://30MDSPazC4ftuP3jNUstKFEkWOL.jpeg)

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Your a skully man, me too. I used a skull vodka bottle for a pipe as well. I collect and paint skully stuff.

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That’s some nice soil :ok_hand:

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I have the Alien vodka head too.
My next creation will be an alien theme. Complete with a glowing UFO that I found on Amazon a few weeks ago.

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Thanks… It’s base is fox farm’s and happy frog. The whole entire 14x20 grow cage is 18 inches deep and all amended vermiculite perlite clay pellets and rocks bat guano alpaca poop you name it it’s in there Peruvian seabird guano diy soil. I’ve been composting it 4 5 6 years. And then covered with paper then wood chips.


Making a fungal wood chip Garden with awesome soil underneath it

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Well all the the 1st crop is now showing flowering signs.
Sage n sour, Blueberry cookies, Somango, Mango hp, Silver haze2, Triple threat silver haze, Dragon blood hp, and 2 unknown plants are all showing buds. 2 plants OG Fire and Hawaii Maui Waui are just now showing pre flowering and in the next day or so will be buding.

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