Making quality seeds

nothing wrong with non colored seeds as long as the pass the pinch test, did that years ago with the banana kush seeds threw out like 1200 but kept a few back and when i tried them all most all of them germed and gave me a perfectly fine plant.

over pollination is a thing …

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Freakshow seeds finish super pale…like coriander.

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Wow, very nice looking pile of beans there. I always have a pile of white or immature seeds. I am pretty sure it’s because I beat the males up and collect pollen the whole time they are viable. For that I pay the price of having to pick out the garbage. It’s just a trade off I suppose.

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@DougDawson I still handle my pollen the way you taught me with that shaker idea from that convo we had awhile back that shaker worked out so much better.I dont get that missed speck of plant material that would mold out a whole vial anymore its as pure and flowing as the cheezy dust packs in kraft mac and cheese.Trick for me was to master drying,to get it dry on that Mirror for 24 hours and let it dry over a wider spread surface for collection then into parchment paper sachets vac sealed with a desicant pack.Your sourbubble pollen from over two years ago was still viable and made beans very good resin plants.I still have some left.Im telling you Doug you equipped me with an arsenal of pollen i was able to win most of everything you put out.Only one i never got was the Sweet and Sour Cindy that pack never arrived for some reason i figured someone at customs nabbed them.But then again ive had a couple packs go incognito so might be a Shit head in the post office.Happens from time to time but not all the time so its cool.He must have needed it more than me i say and trudge on.No harsh in my mellow.I seen that freezer bag of beans you made Kudos if i had that i would fly down a wooded Zipline and chuck that whole bag the whole way i went and make a one mile path of Monster pot plants.BOG would want it this way.Its a good Bucket list activity for sure

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That’s great to hear bud, glad I was able to give you some useful advice. The S&SC pollen went out with the last batch of stuff so it may still arrive. Been seeing some longer postal times since Christmas but looking at my used label sheets I see it went out so I would not count it as lost yet. Give it another week or 2, if you don’t see it message me back.

It’s stories like yours that make me go through the trouble of having to pick out the non viable seeds, lol. I love hearing there are folks making seeds using pollen I harvested. Makes the extra work well worth it IMO. :v:

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Some stuffs about feeding for seed production there:

and there:

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Hey @DougDawson . I am very interested in your technique for storing pollen. :nerd_face: If you find a little free time could you perhaps write a brief outline of your methods? I am sure everyone would benefit greatly from that information. Thank you. :grin:

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I’ve heard that adding silica to the feeding helps develop stronger shells on the seeds. And adding aminos 1x/week to the feed is something I’ve also heard for healthy seeds.
Also, I think it was Rasta Jeff, but don’t quote me on that, who said that when the seeded plant is harvested, curing it is not neccessary, because you’re not gonna smoke it; you can dry it out more quickly and not lose any seed quality.

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Like foreigner said, how long the males are with the females and how long the plants go.

I have found that leaving the males with the females for the run leaves you with tons of immature white seeds. If you want a higher percent mature limit the time together.

I have left the together for the whole runs t date but will limited the time together in the future.

:green_heart: :seedling:

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At what point do you suggest pulling the males?

I have never left a male with females. I use a paint brush and knock up the ladies twice a few days apart when buds are about the size of a babys pinky.
-I would pull them when the females are that big.Pollen will still be viablea nd contaminating the tent for a while.

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I let the second to last go 4 weeks but the males were a reversal. The one I am pulling now have been in there a couple weeks.

I will use these two to see how long for next time. If the females are in full flower and the males are shooting great. If I still get a ton on white seeds I will cut back to one week. I am trying to get the most mature seeds with the least immature. As some just pollenate manually I would think only a few days would be needed or less.

:green_heart: :seedling:

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This is in my limited experience also the case.
Plant stress is a big factor too.
You don’t want a pregnant woman or animal to have stress either…

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Here’s a scenario:
I’ve dusted an entire room of mostly different strains. The same soil was used for all of the plants, they were on the same watering schedule and in the same sized pots. The male used was the same for all of them, and they were all dusted at the same time. The only difference in the room was the different cultivars.
When I shucked the seeds there were differences with the number of white seeds that each plant made. Some had 50% white seeds (actually there was only one plant that did this), while others had only like 10-15% white seeds.

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As they were different cultivars it’s maybe no surprise their seed maturity ratios are different, each specimens having a different maturation/life span.

In this case, I guess to optimize the amount of nice seeds on each specimens, you would have to enter them into flower at different times, to sync their peak of readiness to produce them, when the male is itself at its peak of production (cause I guess they have one too, why wouldn’t they?). Almost like staging their entrance to their level of NLD blood/harvest date. If you’re using multiple males, you’d probably have to do the same dance with them in an ideal world. :slight_smile:

@Magu DD spread that here and there but it’s summed up here Freaker’s Ball Preservation Project 2021: Arakku Valley - #232 by DougDawson

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Thanks @funkyfunk . I believe to be sure of seed maturity you should leave the plant to die from old age. But my set up is different. I can have multiple old plants hidden in the weeds, in the woods or sitting under my camper. I cant believe you guys dont smoke your seeded buds. I smoke everything! :crazy_face:

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I deseed it and then make hash with the plant material.

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Good plan. 🫣

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Waste not want not. I actually have a plant in there I didn’t bother to deseed. Just didn’t like it so into the hash pile seeds and all.

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The good seed falls all around the planter and you gotta pick em one by one

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