Cheers dude. Will look in to how to do that. Many thanks for the response
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Starting to get really annoyed with broken seals 
. The parafil sealing my test plate has some hole in it. Not sure if this is was from when I did the initial sealing, or if it developed over the week from some temp fluctuations. The two spots of mold I see are right in line with those holes, so I still consider this a good test.
But good news is my grain bag is basically completely colonized, I can prob mix to bulk in the next day or two.
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Wow, I totally feel like Iām newb trolling the shroomery. Putting up points of logic and asking a question, and laughing at the responses Iām getting. Really hating on the rice bag tek there, but everyone just brings up issues that are user error or not following instructions. I bring up the bags I prepped with silicone, I asked whatās the difference between them and a bigger injectable grain bag, with all best practices being followed. Got some silly responses.
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That place is kind of toxic, imo. Iāve had an account there for a while, but Iāve never made a single post. Some of those people have some really strange ideas, too.
I donāt regret remaining a lurker 
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It used to be a great place to learnā¦ 15 years ago it was go toā¦
Like most places, it gets overrun by dingus users who think they know everything and flame those that donāt think like they do.
Howeverā¦ My UB bag is looking nice lol
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I read that whole thread just now, and have seen others like it. Iām a bit mystified why people get so bent out of shape about other people using pre-cooked rice bags, to be honest.
Reminds me a bit of the people who will argue endlessly that the only good way to get into growing mushrooms is to start with agar. Itās definitely not the best way for every person. Yeah, I get the benefits and Iām sold on how it can increase your chances of success by allowing you to better ensure that your spawn is uncontaminated etc, but thereās no way Iām going down that road before trying something simpler and Iām not even going to bother enumerating the reasons for why thatās not the path for me because I simply donāt feel like they need any justification. I want to work on isolating a good culture someday, and Iām sure I would find the process fascinating. I might not ever get there though, and thatās okay with me.
I understand that multi-spore syringe straight to grain carries a higher risk of contamination, and mss to over-hydrated and over-cooked low quality rice might be even more risky. Iām okay with that. I guess itās got a bit of a āghettoā image in a lot of peopleās minds, and Iām okay with that too.
But no matter how much they might deride the methods and materials I used, I got some mushrooms out of it already, and am on track to get much more.
Hey, it worked. And continues to work. Iām getting ready to g2g another dozen bags of pre-cooked rice in the next couple of days, got two tubs spawned and colonizing, got spore prints made, and got to give a friend some much-needed medicine.
Anyone who wants to deride me for how I did that can straight up kiss my whole ass 
Edit: Oh! I gave half of my bags of fully colonized Uncle Benās and two 5lb bags of pre-sterilized substrate I got from Etsy to my buddy, so he can grow his own medicine. Heās got it all set up, and it looks like itās taking off. I feel really really good about that!
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Iām MS all the way ā¦ Sure I could clone to agar or use it to trasfer but itās always worked for me. Itās when people started their āonly real growers use agarā that I quit with the shroomery. Bitch Iāve been growing mushrooms since before you could babble the words agar lol tell me Iām wrong
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Iāve seen so many great MS grows in the time Iāve been reading up on this stuff that I just canāt accept that itās not one of a hundred valid ways to do a great grow
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Multispore inoculation to wild bird seed, then to cocoā¦ Iāve always said even pinset is more related to even environment more than sectoring fast moving cluster prone mycelium
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Thatās what Iām talking about!
Nice 
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And I do this 98% of the timeā¦ Sure, you have a couple jars of substrate contam out of 20ā¦ But this is whatās leftā¦ Survival of the fittest, not letās make whatever we think is fit mycelium survive lol
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I hope to have a harvest like that some day.
Iām still learning about the environment and surface conditions and other factors that help get there, and Iām fully enjoying the journey.
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That was like 3qts colonized seed and 2 qts coco in a 6qt plastic shoeboxā¦ But honestly, after itās mixed and topped, make it as even as possibleā¦ Iāve always ocdād my casing laters and it always pays off pretty well
Over the years Iāve modified my fruiting chamber to help grow in an environment I would call suitable vs shotgun fruiting chambers or monotubsā¦ it works for me and thatās what matters
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Gonna make that my Shroomery sig, lol
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I believe mine still has something to do with bulking to manureā¦ Human manureā¦ Was an old post from a member I made my sig
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I am kind of a geek and think working with Agar is fascinating, but Iām definitely seeing the frustration with contamination. I just went through and double checked the plates I have going, had to add another layer of parafilm to a few plates that had tiny holes along the film. Iām actually going to do some no pour Agar in 4oz jars with modified lids, that way I donāt need to open them. Samples can be added or taken with just a needle through the injection port. Only need to have a needle biopsy type sample really (look up Josex poke).
Oh, last night, I made an inoculation loop, flamed it, then used it to take sample of my LCs to test on Agar. The LCs should be ready by the time the agars show if itās clean or not. I also took some cordyceps sinensis LC directly from the syringe I was sent, and used a insulin syringe to inject roughly .1cc into each preserved silkworm in the package, and also into 5 mature live hornworms that are just about to pupate. I am waiting for roughly 8 other hornworms to pupate, then im going to put some Militaris into them.
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I canāt wait to see what happens
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Man, Iām still just reading about the process of growing my own mushrooms, havenāt even tried yet (soon, though), but you are so right. Youād think motherfuckers who are expanding their minds with psychedelics and whatever would be a little less pissy, kinda weird that thatās not the case. Iām not a big IG dude, but I do log on occasionally. I follow Paul Stamets and his last post was fucking FASCINATING. But every comment was like,āI dare say good sir that this hypothesis is,ā blahblahblah whatever whatever. Seems like the mushroom growers are a little too obsessed with one-upping each other and proving how āscientificā they are haha.
Whatever. No big deal. Iām not worried about impressing anybody, either, but it is very odd (to me, anyway) what dicks a lot of them are haha.
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I just got a bunch of swabs, scalpels, syringes, large guage sharps, and other assorted supplies from a buddy in the medical field, and Iām considering ordering some agar plates on Etsy.
I read that thread on the Josex poke and thought it looked interesting, but I wanna go back and reread it now
I only have an SAB to work with, but Iād like to try making a clone next harvest anyways. Iāll never be able to afford a flow hood or FFU, but maybe Iāll get lucky and itāll work anyways.
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