My first bagseed grow

We make work castings at home actually :sweat_smile:
I’ll have to get some and do what I can. Might have to reapply some diatomaceous earth on the surface again as well once the topsoil gets dry again.

It’s almost dry enough to apply some. The plant in the back right isn’t getting enough light for sure.
I’ve noticed the starter leaves are growing suckers now. One seems to be trying to regrow the starter leaf it’s shedding to get a thicker stem. The leaf looks almost serrated, but it’s rounded and growing out of the same spot as the starter leaf. Odd :thinking:

Overall the tobacco treatment is working really well.
The leaves look unaffected by all the pests scattered on them. I’ll buy some flypaper asap and see if I can’t help to reduce the adult population.

On a side note I do have honey, but it’s a chili infused hot honey. Someone mentioned to use honey awhile back. Could someone chime in on if that would be useful in place of regular honey? It’s a organic local honey if that helps.

I’m here all day to answer any questions about my grow. Anyone curious feel free to ask. I tend to forget to add details and don’t realize it until I’m told.

Here’s a pic of them this morning. They’re doing really well. The stems are getting very thick and sturdy now.
I have to get ready to head out really fast, but once I’m back I can snap some stem pics.

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I have noticed that the sativa looking one on the left seems to be showing deficiency or toxicity symptoms. I’ll have to check what the issue is and see if I can’t do anything for it. It might be a pH issue though as it seems to be multiple issues at once. The rest of the plants don’t show the same visual issues, but they could just be better acclimated to indoor grows and showing issues later instead of right away.

I’m following everyone’s advice and letting them show me what they need rather than panicking and accidentally killing them with a “fix”. The gnats or whatever they are are very small in number now and seemingly appear to be decreasing in number.
Maybe those tiny white pill bug looking things I could barely see aren’t the gnats or a pest. I’m hoping that’s the case, but whatever is happening I do know the adult count has been decreasing each day after the initial explosion where I felt like I would walk out with a beard made of them after going close. I haven’t sprayed them since my last update about it, so they seem to not need it or I’ll have to keep it up until I see none and I can maybe cultivate the aphids mites or whatever the name of the natural predator of aphids and gnats are.

I mixed in diatomaceous earth with the fertilized water and added some sweet orange oil, lemon oil, Clary sage oil, rosemary oil, bergomot oil, and eucalyptus oil to the water too. I’m probably going to regret it, but I’ll make the mistake worse later if I don’t learn better I’m sure. I’m dumb like that.
At least I’m not lying and not admitting it while asking for help if it goes wrong.

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Diatomaceous earth is useless when wet. How much essential oil did you add per gallon? Essential oils are usually sprayed foliarlly, not a soil drench. I get you are excited and feel like you need to do something every day. Often the best approach is to Leave It The F Alone.

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I don’t think you realize I’ve left them alone for days. I’ve been staring at them prepping stuff for today. I added a few drops per bottle and spread it over 2 gallons. It also was allowed to settle overnight. The main goal if it doesn’t kill them is to get them out of the soil. Tbh a insect repellent incense smells stronger.

At least in the area of using essential oils to kill pests I’m not that worried. Been doing that for 20 years now with great success. If you need a ant infestation gone, just use tinfoil and a borax infused simple syrup. Drop enough to make a noticable amount that won’t dry easy. Keep away from animals you want alive. The ants will carry the solution off to the colony happily every time and every time the colony collapses and they look elsewhere for food.

Carry on then, I just see you posting updates twice a day. You seem to have a lot of anxiety over these bugs you haven’t even identified.

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I left them alone and now that they’re showing deficiency issues. I’m not going to starve them so sorry, but I’m going to have to use my eyes and hands to see when it time to water them instead of following your advice to leave them alone and watch them die slowly and wither away from lack of food. They grew pretty fast and at the rate they’re drying out the soil I’ll have to feed them often.
I only water when the topsoil is dry. I scrape at it, stuck a finger straight in, and I grab a ball and squeeze it. If it feels moist at best I’ll foliar feed.

Also I’ve been using the diatomaceous earth more as a calcium supplement as my local tap water is low in calcium. It’s high in something. I’ll have to pull the local report up again.

I redid the setup as they were almost grown into it.
I’ll be doing what I can to get more lights, but money is tight. I have enough to grab a pack of games or something to smoke a blunt with. I’m clearly aggrivates rn and I need to calm down.
I almost killed the plants when the HPS almost fell on them all. The new setup has to be reinforced.
I only have to put up with it long enough for my buddy to buy me that tent he wants to get me.
Basically a $800 tent with a boss MCH/LEC in it. Comes with ducting and fans in included also. 3x3 tent. Lmk if it’s worth it or if there’s better options as he’s a stubborn fool, but he’s a good friend.

Anyways sorry for snapping at you @ReikoX
I almost had a panic attack and my response should have waited until I calmed down.

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I’m sure as you see my setup needs a lot of work, but as I add better lighting I’ll still probably end up using those bulbs as supplemental lighting as they grow denser and in more need of light below.

I did notice the heat lamp there seems to amplify the light from the led. Directly up to them I get about 30k lux at around 2 inches and past that it’s at 16k rapidly dropping. With the reflector dish its 30k about a foot away and 70k up close. The only time I see anywhere near 70k is if I touch my light sensor to the led directly, so any idea how that’s happening and should I get more then work out distance? I don’t have a par meter.

I was going to be already working, but I’m still out of a job ATM. The guy who vouched for me almost died on the job a couple of weeks ago, so that’s not working out any time soon. You all don’t want to hear it I’m sure, but I’ll be doing what I can with what I have before I can afford to properly take care of them. It could be worse. I could have no fertilizer at all and lead filled tap water. At least I have companion plants to help out once they grow. I just need them to grow faster.

Also I Forgot to mention, but the soil has small white worms wriggling out when I watered. I could barely see them. Smallest thing I’ve had to ever squint at. As thick as dog fur at best. I’m assuming a nematode of some kind. My camera doesn’t have enough room or clarity to see anything that small. If my right eye can’t see it any camera under 16x zoom can’t either. One upside to a severely nearsighted right eye. yayyyyyyy for almost losing my eye in a fight as a kid!:rofl: It works in my favor now. One severely nearsighted and one severely farsighted. I got to see a hawk devour a mouse in full clarity before my camera could even visually spot it. Sometimes I don’t seem to fully grasp how off I see the world with this eyesight. I don’t wear any corrective measures to fix my eyesight.
Once you get used to it seeing distance with one eye and peripheral with another is interesting.
Also I’m high and rambling now, so I’ll go charge my phone and relax. Be back on later once it’s time for another update.

While I’m out of a job taking care of the house and these plants is my job.

The bin below has finally collected runoff. It’s deep in the bin. Only 3 inches deep. The bins have mostly form fit. The lid is keeping them from forming a seal as I do want to allow for runoff.

So the bottom of the bin is definitely submerged in the runoff. I want to test it, but I can’t lift 300lbs.
I’m at anywhere from 1-4% body fat on average. Usually 4% when I eat utill I’m overstuffed 10x a day. I’m hoping these babies get a decent THC-V and CBD profile as massive CBD doses usually keep my weight more stable. I’ll find my perfect strain one day. If not I’ll learn to breed and I’ll craft that strain that helps me gain weight. I’ve been tested and my thyroid is functioning normally. Not hyper or hypo. I did the expensive STD/STI testing a couple years ago to be safe too and it wasn’t anything at all. Completely clean. All kinds of other gross medical tests have been done and nothing explains this fast metabolism. Somehow my stomach digests each 30 minutes on average, so that’s in general just annoying.

All in all cannabis is the only thing that’s ever helped me to maintain a stable weight after my body started to eat itself despite me eating 3 meals a day before food claimed all my time and money just to look like a twink. I get called that a lot by my trans friends. :expressionless:

This growth pattern gets me every time LoL :ok_hand:
It looks to be a bud forming almost, but it always turns out to be new leaf growth.

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So I just saw a couple of mushrooms pop out of the soil. Should I leave them alone or is there types that I have to get rid of?

I did a little research and it seems to be a sign of healthy properly fed soil. It’s only coming from 1 of the plants so far.
Should I take a picture? They’re tiny, but fast growing enough that I didn’t see them a hour ago.

I took a pic. Best I could do on short notice. Heading out now to head to my birth area for the festival.

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Just leave them, they won’t hurt anything. They will likely go away as fast as the appeared.

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I’m just hoping on free mycelium

I asked that question while I was still unsure, but I figured it was best to ask rather than assume. I also did my own research immediately after asking as a double measure. I can research all day, but I trust the word of those who have experience in my question area vs my own thoughts and opinions. I just try to ignore my own thoughts on matters as the anxiety and autism tend to take over those thoughts and make it hard to think logically. The stubborn nature of my autism keeps me stuck in my ways even when I should know better. Sometimes I need it spelled out for me if I’m just not getting it. Just ignore the initial refusal for help. If you offer help and I seem to push you away, I’m being stubborn even if I apear to be not listening I will be reading every word. It’s a bad habit of mine. I do not know better and I can only parrot information as this is my first grow. The only information I have that’s not traditional parroting is info passed on to me by my father and Grandpa. If anyone’s still reading anyone mind telling me what the average yeild to expect is? I keep hearing those around me mention maybe 2oz from a few plants and I’m seeing more than that from most every first time grows, so IDK. My father tells me if I follow his advice that I could expect a lb per plant and my grandfather tells me an oz per plant is what I can expect. Either one is good for a first grow, but obviously I would prefer to get closer to a lb per plant if I can get there one day. I really am not expecting anything near 1lb per plant. With the current issues I’m really only expecting an oz at best if I even get a female. It’s a learning experience, so I’ll expect to get better as I go on.

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Long update aside can anyone advise me on what I should do once it comes time to flower? It’s nearing that range soon. I’ve heard I should start flowering at half the desired size, but I’m mostly looking for specific tratis to show up before I start bloom.

Specifically I’m waiting for each to be big enough to support the flowering weight and healthy enough to produce a decent yeild. Anything other than that is a bonus as far as I’m concerned. If those mushrooms stay I’ve heard they produce co2. Plus tbh they’ll help to reduce the mulch/peat/uncomposted matter and make it into proper planting soil. Eventually. It’ll probably take a year overall, but if I leave this bin alone after harvest and work with it the fungi might turn it into a proper soil one day.

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How bad would it be if I had them have a longer night schedule than normal for 1 night? I did not fully think out plans in case I couldn’t make it home on time.
If I left now I’d make it home in time to last put for 8 hours. Only now I see the true importance timer switches. Anyways I can make it home, but no lie I want to sleep rn. Just lmk if I need to light a fire under my ass if you see this any time soon. I’m taking a dab now, so I’ll be awake for and hour. Usually just getting comfortable, but either way again:

TL;DR If I should rush home to turn on the lights tell me now. Otherwise I’ll pass out in a hour and be home in roughly 13 hours. I really wish I had someone to help me when I don’t have a timer at 1am😑. I chose the worst time to start their cycle.

Well… I passed out before I could get home. I’ll be getting a mechanical timer ASAP. Let’s hope the long sleep doesn’t cause me too many issues down the line. If I trusted anyone to go in my house that’s not family when I’m not home, I’d have asked a friend last night to help out.

Best/Worst case scenario: I find the males/herms and get them gone if any of them are female. If all I have are herms, then I’ll make lemonade.
If I get all males: I’ll just collect the pollen and store it for later. Fridge or freezer? It’ll be in a mason jar unless it needs air.