Hey man, doing much better, thanks! A local here helped me out today(a biofungicide called regalia, had heard of it, never used, its expensive!) But once I just broke down and asked for help on the Va page, I was pretty aggressive about it lol but the good people here, such as yourself, never let me down. I appreciate you brother! You are right, either way, harvest or no, we’ve had a hell of a year. Ive had a ton of fun and we’re just getting started. Lots of learning together, and with others this season. Been a whole new world for me. Humbling but just what I needed. Your dead on, we definitely cant get hung up on the failures, too many positive and successful outcomes to worry about the bad days too much. Learn, but move on. Im trying!
Your close, but not in the full clear just yet, I know you know that, but Id at least suggest you to fill up your cabinet and probably then some, dry some outdoor quick, or inside just to make some edibles as we just never know what can happen, you’ll thank yourself for jumping on it now, I know I am, I did an iso wash on a couple branches of cleaned up flower and got a nice yield of some rough oil, but if/when you do a partial, I like to take the opportunity to also trim whats left of them up real tight, just leave like two or three pairs of main leaves, some cultivars like it, others dont but the ones that do will get crazy fat, you’ll have colas topping over, if you already dont. You know, huge root systems, not much to feed, so dont feed em any more, Im sure your just adding fresh water by now, maybe alittle myco, but yeah, there good to go from what I read and see. So Id hit them down low, inside, clean em up even more and then do that like two more times. I think it gives you much more weight in the end, maybe not the best overall but some flower will be tippity top shelf all amber and knock out sativas that take you on a roller coaster ride…damn, wish we weren’t so far apart brother! My dude out here did hook it up with some fire, so thats helping tonight as well. Just crossing my fingers on this big harvest, it was sooo close! Still got cards up my sleave though, All Good! I’ll always appreciate your friendship throughout man. Really helping me grow. Love ya bro! Hope you and the fam are well tonight. The ladies look stunning as always 
those are some nice bud porn shots…really looking healthy and frosty!
nice harvest man way to grow 
When I got home from work yesterday I took another look, this time a bit earlier in the evening. I may have kinda freaked out the other evening when I was looking for bud rot, thinking they were farther along than they were. I mean, the trichs tell the story I’m supposed to listen to, but the pistils I think also tell me a tale. They are pretty white (maybe 50%) on the Hella Jelly and Snow-G. I feel like seeing other people’s grows encounter trouble are now is fueling my harvest fever. I’m seeing how quickly it can take a turn for the worse.
On another note, my Hawaiian Snow has an aphid issue. There are ladybugs and ladybug larvae everywhere, and lacewing eggs I spotted the other morning with the UV light. The aphids don’t seem too bad, but holy shit are the predator bugs everywhere. I’m debating doing something (probably just insecticidal soap) about the aphids because I don’t like aphids, but I don’t want to kill all the food for the ladybugs either. The fact that I don’t spot many aphids is nudging me towards just letting nature do it’s thing. I may regret that decision in a few weeks. It’s weird, that one plant attracted almost all of the problems. The shitterpillars have been all over the garden, but actively “under management”
My revised plan is to take better whole plant pictures this morning. Once I can see outside, if I feel good about harvesting some of the AotG I will. I’ll just take those top colas that look ripe. Hella Jelly I might take a few colas. Hella Jelly and AotG are both really top-heavy, I’ve been ammending their supports almost every time I look at them.
@RandomHumanoid I definately think it’s hard to tell. There are several indicators, and it’s a gut feel reaction. Maybe I’m stressing too much and just need to relax. It wouldn’t be the first time 
I appreciate knowing I’m not the only one that has difficulty judging it.
@Dendro Glad you aren’t giving up, and relieved to see the pic you posted yesterday. I was expecting something so much worse, she looks alright. I predict the regalia helps significantly and you are back on the tracks. It’s always nice to find out how much people want to help and support you when you just ask for help. I’ve never really had a situation where I asked for help, and I didn’t get it. It may not have always been the help I wanted, but it’s always been the help I needed. Life is a funny thing. Anyway, I’m very happy for you to be feeling better about your ladies that have had a hard time recently. I’m glad you got a little bit of oil out of your girls already.
I think I’ll just take things as they look ready and I’ll just frequently fill the wash buckets. I’ll have to reuse the final rinse bucket which is distilled just because it’s such a pain in the ass to keep buying jugs of water. I don’t mind filling the H2O2 and tap water rinse buckets everyday I harvest. I’ve been feeding them more dilute flowering tea, essentially keeping the soil thriving still just in terms of the microbial life. They’re fading nice. On the removal of leaves thing, as they fade and get close to falling off I’ve just been plucking them. I wait until they basically fall off when I tug, but they’re pretty thin IMO. They are all colas with no brakes, I chuckle at the Hella Jelly folding over on itself but still looking happy and healthy. The majority of my pulling leaves as they finish fading has been so I can keep a better eye on the buds, and not having dead leaves makes it easier to scan the plants for brown leaves that I associate with bud rot. I’ve been catching little spots of rot and individual tiny caterpillars (often they are already dead thanks to the BT treatment) within a day, hopefully keeping the little assholes mostly at bay.
Thanks for the positive vibes and compliments on the bud porn. Definately check back in later today for the whole plant pics. I appreciate all the advice, and carefully think about pretty much anything that gets mentioned on here.
Yeah!..I can feel it from here, your getting close, Im sure alot of it is good enough to take, and not just ehh, but good! Im sure youve noticed that the flowers do still develop, just a bit, as they dry, especially if your taking them through it nice and slow like you are. Thats like pro shit to me, I worry about bud rot too much, but thats just me, I really am a dirty hippy so our property got messy this year, damn I wish I could go back, but next year I’ll be a clean hippy with sterilized grow space and gear, I just got too comfortable! As you say, we get what we need. And Ive learned if I don’t like the answer or help offered, just keep asking politely. Anyway, started to ramble there, trying to stay focused lately lol but I appreciate the positive vibes and encouragement as well bro. It sounds like your ready to go, keeping those buckets filled and space ready to go is definitely the right idea. One thing that I thought about while reading just now, I keep forgetting to say something about this, so when we pull or cut any leaves, their should always be an inch or so of stem left(unless it falls or pulls of naturally as you said) and as that dies out, I like to make sure I go back and gently pull them as they seem to be a easy way for bud rot to set up. Usually takes about three to five days. I do this religiously, probably one of the reasons I spread the pm around so fast this year so next time Ill be more careful, but yeah, those ends of the stem should be removed as soon as they come loose, my opinion at least. Ive seen alot of bud rot because of them being left to wilt inside a nice bud. It sounds like your just removing the already falling off leaves but if there are ends of the, damn I forgot the word, petiole? I cant spell for shite…but yeah, just got me thinking there brother, thought Id share so you can mull it over or give me your opinion 
sometimes its the little things that kill, usually nothing to worry about too much but can sometimes lead to trouble…have a great day my friend…Ill be checking back in to see your latest pics, the aphids at this point shouldnt be too much of a bother, thats awesome that the lady bugs are unharmed by the BT, after seeing and hearing your experiences, am surly going to use it next year, along with this regalia. Two more pieces to the puzzle, high hopes for next round!
Damn! Looking Dank in here Dude!
Hey man, I’m kinda fussing over here right now getting the harvest area ready so I’ll take some time to get back at ya this afternoon.
Avenue of the Giants BELOW 2 images:
Going to take the tops that look mature.
Hella Jelly BELOW 2 images:
Probably just going to take a few tops that look best right now.
Snow-G BELOW:
Going to wait on this one.
I know you got your modeling hands full right and ready to go! 
Enjoy that bounty, Well Done!
Took probably 3-4 oz dry of the Avenue’s ripest tops. I can hardly tell I took anything off the plant looking at it afterwards 
Took maybe an ounce of the ripest Hella Jelly tops too. That definitely needs another week, maybe when I take the rest of the avenue.
yes! You will be busy, the wife will probably look at you alittle crazy, you may loose your mind, but it is all worth it! All your planning and preparing, hard work, is paying off. Congratulations brother, its tough, but your making it look easy! Wishing you well on your drying and curing, but its practically in the jar. Beautiful
Well, finally it is relaxed here. The dry cabinet is chooching away, and my delicate hands are resting at last.
I only pluck leaves that are about to fall off, preventing that from being an issue. I didn’t take any particular care when “pruning” just because it’s so dry here. Initially I had thought about sealing up the splits and then thought, I’ll let 'em heal like I would heal. It’s another of those things that’s debated, like using a bandaid on a papercut. It’s certainly logical to me to avoid creating a wound if possible, I agree with that. Petiole is the right word, that’s where the leaf connects to the host branch.
When I cut bud rot tops I always sterilized my scissors before/after and removed the damage without shaking or blowing spores anywhere. That’s also recommended when pruning, mainly when moving between plants, especially if they are infected with anything. That’s good practice I’ll use from now on, following my PM lesson courtesy of you and everyone else (esp @JoeCrowe - BTW Joe, I really appreciate your hash thread too, tons of fantastic insights in your threads/posts) While there has been a little rot/shitterpillar action this year, everything I went through this morning was pristine, save for one shitterpillar I found on a small bud as I was trimming fans before wash - tossed the whole nug out, sterilized scissors and new gloves. I don’t think paranoia there is going to cost me anything other than 15 cents of gloves and a lost couple grams. I cleaned everything else (table, trays, scissors, cabinet) before and after as well. I think good hygene is important, so I’m starting to improve my game there. Thanks for helping me learn hard lessons the easy way!
The BT supposedly ONLY harms the shitterpillar larvae at the beginning of their life cycle. That’s one of the reasons I decided I was OK with using it. I’m excited by both the relative lack of bud rot, and prevelance of predator insects. It’s crazy though, it’s just that one plant with many bugs on it. The others have had a shitterpillar here or there, all the wild circle-of-life shit is happening on the Hawaiian Snow. Jumping spiders, ladybugs and baby ladybugs, and a tiny number of detectable aphids. It’s a trip.
I’m excited to have some of this run in the cabinet already. It’s sitting right now at 62F and a tad over 60% because it’s a huge water load with the freshly washed bud in there. It should stabilize back to 60% on the dot soon, once things equilibrate.
I gotta admit, while I was super stoked on the Avenue of the Giants smell…after handling even 1/4 of the plant worth of it, I’m not sure I’m the right guy for that plant. It smells like a drag strip - burnt rubber, some sort of highly-flammable fuel and cedar or something. It was almost making me ill after an hour of dealing with it. The Hella Jelly, on the other hand, I’m digging hard. It smells incredible - like nothing I’ve ever smelled before. I can say the same sentence for the Avenue as well, but I’m not sure I dig that one or not That’s what I get, searching for exotic terps and diverse effects. The whole goal this year was to find out what I like and what I don’t, so we’re already having success in that regard 
Cheers guys, thanks for reading today’s dose of ramblings. Thanks for the input and advice all through the process so far
Thanks for the props! The highly detailed technical information is… delivering the industry secrets!
Avenue of the Giants: Clipped about 6 colas off, looks like about 3-4oz dry to my novice eyes, similar maybe slightly more than the SAD Fast harvest at 4oz. Smell is wild and strong. Leaving the rest for another week or until it screams at me to chop it. Still quite a bit of “small” buds left on her.
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Hella Jelly: My new favorite lady, took 2 large colas that looked pretty ripe yesterday. Still most left to go. Another week or two I think.
Snow-G: Getting close but still pretty white on the pistils. I’m guessing another 2 weeks, maybe 9/30.
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Hawiian Snow: She’s got some aphids but tons of ladybugs, it’s like a predator insect haven. Not sure if I should do anything about the aphids because natures special forces (ladybugs/lacewings) are already on-the-job. I’d rather not spray more than BT, if this is a terrible plan, please let me know.
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Dragon’s Hashplant: These colas are thicker than they look - well beyond forearm size, closer to whole-arm size. Not a particular scent other than weed - she smells like nice weed.
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Rattlesnake NM Green Chile:
Harvested some of the green chiles, I’ll roast these up tomorrow morning on the grill.
Enjoy your weekends!
Bi-Weekly Trich/Bud Checkup
Fed some tea and checked everything out pretty well. Found a shitterpillar but it’s supposed to rain this afternoon so no BT until tomorrow morning maybe. Sampled some buds and brought them inside, from all the cultivars currently running. I can’t use the webcam microscope outside even remotely good enough.
God, my office smells like a weed factory now
Hawaiian Snow: Shouldn’t be done for some time, this is the plant full of predators and some aphids that I’ve been able to spot. Wasn’t planning on pulling this one for at least another month, but I’ll pull whenever she’s ready. Still shooting fresh pistils.
Dragon’s Hashplant: Also needs quite a while. Nice and healthy, herbal scent. Expect 3-4 weeks at least left here too, still throwing fresh pistils.
Hella Jelly: Current favorite, smells like a fruit cobbler. Pulled a few ripe-looking tops last Friday, maybe a 10% harvest. Maybe another few weeks for the rest, few freshish pistils and clear/cloudy.
Avenue of the Giants: Fortunately the burnt rubber smell is toning down and being replaced by a more woodsy profile. Pulled more tops than HJ, maybe 25-30% harvested already. I’d guess another 1-2 weeks for the rest of the pistils to ripen up, and some amber trichs to make themselves well-known.
Snow-G: Liking the scent of this one more and more, fuelly, little lemon. Guessing another couple weeks again for the fresh pistils to darken up, she’s already pretty bulky. The structure of this one is beautiful.
Have a great day guys, I’d love any advice/comments! I’m not very experienced yet (this is the first serious attempt) but seeing good results by following suggestions 
Disaster! Came home to half my Dragon’s Hashplant snapped off
I’ll head back out after dinner and see what I can do, probably just chop them off. Guess they just outgrew the little poles, and they seemed super sturdy so I never bothered trussing them up like I have on the others. Miserable winds here today, obviously 
She’s re-staked, tied back together and dressed the wounds. Splashed some kelp extract and rubbed some fresh aloe leaf into the cracks after I got it wrapped back together. I think the aloe especially will help seal and heal. I felt like a fuckin genius with that one Now I’ll probably find out that was a terrible idea
Minimal apparent damage, despite the fact that she literally split at 4 different nodes. 2 branches were cleanly amputated but the big splits had a shocking amount of structure left to mend.
We’ll see how she looks tomorrow, but she can’t be worse off than she was when I got home 
Damn brother, sorry to see the damage, I was expecting some nice drying buds in here…she looks brand new though, excellent work! Something to hold the branches togethe(zip ties!) from the inside, use their weight to help you, has helped me before. As long as you support her branches, always the hardest part, she’ll be great and should be good to go, I really like the sound of using aloe, sounds like that is the key to all of our ailments lately, instead of an app, we have, “there’s a plant for that!” I look around and see other plants unaffected by a certain problem that will remain nameless, but yeah, I want to start extracting everything around me to find its benefits. It just makes sense. I will be praying for your ladies healing and swift recovery, we’ll get through this! Oh btw, thank you for recommending Joe’s hash thread, wow does he pull some quality meds, Im gonna use any not so perfect flower and turn it into true nectar of the gods very soon. We’re almost done, thank the lord!
Quite an update for today.
Last night demonstrated the DHP to be healthy, I upgraded the brace wires a bit and took some pictures this morning.
Took a look at HJ, all is well, maybe next weekend is the end for this one.
AOTG was ready to join her other third in the cabinet of drying/comfort.
I actually gave up about 2 hours into it. The buds just require so much work because I didn’t keep the colas tidy on this girl. It’s a shame, but I’m just done with her. If I liked her smell better I would have persisted, but I’m really not feeling the burnt rubber terps. I probably pulled another 4 oz dry equivilent, there’s probably another 2-3oz still on the bones so to speak. I will try to take it to a more loving home for the rest of it’s tenure on this earth, I know someone that would love it to so it won’t be wasted. Here’s what’s left of her, took off the right tops but left all the lowers.
Some updates on what got harvested last Friday. Hella Jelly looking hella fire:
And the Avenue looking good but not smelling to my taste. Just preference, I think I prefer fruit/herbal/tree terps to chemical/fuel-smelling ones. Lesson learned!
Cheers, have a great weekend!
Tuesday garden/trichome check update. Misted some more BT today, especially on the big ladies that still have several weeks to go. Leaving the smaller girls with less than 2 weeks alone now, other than a diluted tea to keep the terps/soil microbes going.
Dragon’s Hashplant: Seems recovered from the storm incident, healthy and happy (I think - I’m a newb maybe she’s pissed but she’s putting good vibes). Skipping microscope test nug because we’re still weeks away on her.
Hawaiian Snow: Still has ladybugs everywhere, but haven’t spotted the aphids. The colas on this thing are unbelieveably huge. I think this is easily a pound plant, maybe 2. I have no idea, but I’m almost afraid to cut it down. May need to borrow a chainsaw Also skipping microscope today because still much longer to go, at least I think.
Hella Jelly: This thing looks pretty much ready to come down, 9/30. It’ll ripen a tad more. I’d almost harvest it today but I don’t have time. Smelling amazing.
Snow-G: Maybe 10/7 chop? I prefer to harvest Friday mornings due to time constraints.
Bonus nugshot, Hella Jelly sample nug taken 11 days ago, been drying. May need a little puff test today
it looks further along than I would expect? she’s supposed to go way into Oct…color me curious
the Jelly looks delicious. 
you have a Volcano, I hope?
The Hawaiian Snow does look way farther along than expected. I’m not sure why. I was really hoping to have her run into November, which our weather should allow, because I’m going to fill the “Sativa” slot with Ace Honduras x Panama next summer…I really wanted to pave the trail with a long-finisher this season. I’m not complaining, but I kinda am. I figured last week when I did the microscope on her I expected all clear but she’s already clouding up. I don’t want her over-ripe either since I want to experience the “sativa up” effects.
That’s not the only thing not subscribing to my “plan” so far. The Avenue of the Giants wasn’t supposed to be ready until early October (it was the first full-photo harvested), the Snow-G was supposed to be done by now but it’s going into October, the Hella Jelly is the only one right on-schedule end-September. Flower started earlier than I expected for everything, the dates I recorded for flower start are when female pistils were appearing:
I don’t have a Volcano, no. I have a PAX 3 but [gonna sound like a HUGE pussy here] I’m scared I’ll get too high if I use it with this herb because it takes me a few minutes to feel it and I’m so hesitant to waste it packing half a gram in and getting it all hot/spent(old habits). The Jelly smells delicious too, I was gonna roll a J after lunch with that test bud. Maybe I’ll upgrade my vape situation, I don’t know how else I’m going to consume all this. Tolerance will probably be increasing dramatically with this much herb around.
I’m going to stop fucking around and just PAX some HJ. After all, I can just take a little puff, and wait 5 minutes. If it’s not enough, take another one. I don’t need to worry about wasting some heating it all up and just “sipping” from it. I’ve got shitloads, I don’t know why my brain can’t process that properly.
I was just thinking it’d be a travesty not to sip that in a clean vaporizer at low temps and really taste it 
I’ve run into a couple super-creepy strains, but doubt HJ is one of those.
let us know how she goes! 