Not Just Another Tincture Thread

[YoBigdaddy]

@ReikoX

There is a possibility the ethanol content is lower after distilling it, maybe thats why?

I wonder how i could find out? I used 1 oz. In each tincture of mostly good buds, nice mix popcorn,mids, and tops. No shake, or trim. I wouldnt think it would be that noticeable a difference. But maybe.

[nefrella]

@ReikoX can u use abv for tinctures?

[ReikoX]

You probably can, but I would just do an oil extraction with AVB.

[nefrella]

Copy. Probably would taste yuck.

[Who]

hey thanks, my tolerance is very high but the wifey not so much. I will test it first, also i have read of water curing first to rid some of the cloro. sounds like alot of work,has anyone tried it? if so was it worth the effort?

[ReikoX]

Yes its covered in the first dozen or so posts. It is a lot of work, but they were some of the best hard candies I’ve ever made.

[Who]

lol mighta been where i read it

[G-paS]

hot or cold water?

[Gpaw]

@YoBigdaddy

Or is some of the THC from the first batch left in the alcohol making the second batch stronger?

With your setup I would think that a small amount would be likely.
THCA has the lowest boiling point of 120C & your extract tincture would be about 80C.
I wouldn’t think it would a significant amount though.

Cheers
G

[Tinytuttle]

Was watching this vid, lots of good info in these “living web farm videos

[Tinytuttle]

[nefrella]

Can’t get 190 proof in Cali anymore, had to settle for 120.
Thx @ReikoX!

Once this cools, ohhhh I shall dose myself .

[8k_feet]

@newb2.0

Step by step on the gummies I’ll try and put together tonight, assuming I can get this evaporated down quick enough. I plan to use the rice cooker to make it go faster.

Please do if you get a chance, I have failed at gummies a couple times. I tried once with fresh fruit which ended up as a waste of tincture because they were totally barf worthy!

[newb2.0]

Either tonight or tomorrow my man, I got the process and recipe down pretty well at this point. Everyone who tries them is very happy w the taste, texture, and results. Its high time I share my insights w the OG clan!

In the meantime, heres my rough recipe for reference:

@newb2.0

Here’s my recipe ive been using. I keep these in the fridge, they’ve stayed good for months. Ive moved away from pineapple juice bc that seems to degrade a lot faster than apple juice. I havent made this with my recent batch of tincture I describe above. Based on the strength, I’ll only be using 4ml of GD on my next batch. That little bit of alcohol amount doesnt really change consistency as far as I can tell. These definitely turn out softer than gummy bears and will melt if warmed too high (found this out by having a few in the top pouch of a soft cooler that was in direct sun, not near the ice)

Gummies recipe
1 3oz packet Jello
1/2 cup juice
15 ml green dragon
2 packets plain gelatin
~1/2 tsp kool aid packet

Ive used pineapple and apple juice both turned out great. Kool-aid isnt necessary but adds a little more flavor.

Use as much GD as you want/based on how strong yours is. Mine was 1-1.5 g oil/oz of everclear.(I don’t have a scale). So this recipe makes 2 batches per g oil. But you can play w that a lot. Just keep in mind the more everclear, the more it’ll taste like alcohol.

Get a small pot of water boiling. Get the juice boiling separately. I use a glass 2 cup measuring dish- put the dry stuff in there first, mix it. Add hot juice, it’ll start to thicken immediately, add GD, stir. This is key- put the jello/gummy mixture bowl into the hot water and keep stirring til fully mixed. If you keep that bowl sitting in hot water it won’t start hardening on you before you get them into molds.

[nefrella]

@ReikoX

Potency can be estimated fairly accurately using the following formula:
(THC% * mg efficiency)/ml = mg/ml*

For example, let’s assume that the flower potency used in the basic recipe is about 20% THC. We used 7 grams in the recipe which is equal to 7000 mg. The extraction efficiency with this method is approximately 75%, and the total volume is about 60 ml (2 oz.):
(0.2 * 7000 mg * 0.75)/60 ml = 17.5 mg/ml.

So, the tincture I made last night was 28g/16oz alcohol.

(.2 x 28000mg x .75)/473 ml = 8.88 mg/ml

When I reduce this (I didn’t measure how much I got in actual returns, will do that before the reduction for notation purposes), Do you just reduce by half (eyeballing it as you double boil it?)

Ideally, I’d love to end up with something a little thicker, but that can still be used in a dropper.

This seems like (to me) that in order to have a massive dose, you would need to start with a lot more product.

For my first run, good place to start. The hubby about had a heart attack when i just ripped the plant out that i had just hung and used priomo buds for this.

I figure, go big or go home, right?! LOL

[8k_feet]

Thank you brother! This is definitely my next edible batch recipe!

[ReikoX]

@nefrella

Do you just reduce by half (eyeballing it as you double boil it?)

You can eyeball it, most canning jars have measurements on them, so I use those markings.

@nefrella

Ideally, I’d love to end up with something a little thicker, but that can still be used in a dropper.

You can reduce it pretty low, but since you used 60% ethanol instead of 95%, you are going to have issues due to all of the water. I would suggest reducing it all the way to oil, removing all the water. Then add back alcohol to the desired potency.

It was briefly discussed in this post:

Not Just Another Tincture Thread

Lower Proof Alcohol It is recommended to use a 190 proof grain alcohol for a better extraction. The additional water in lower proof alcohol will have a tendency to pull more chlorophyll and other polar compounds. Lower proof alcohol can still be used, but an additional step is required to remove all the water. You will need [ul] [li]Electric heating source[/li] [li]Double boiler[/li] [li]Ventilation[/li] [/ul] Directions [ol] [li]Setup the double boiler on the heating source under the …

@nefrella

This seems like (to me) that in order to have a massive dose, you would need to start with a lot more product.

Alcohol tincture is surprisingly bioavailable. It is not the same as eating it IME, but closer to the effects of smoking. A 10-20 mg dose is surprisingly potent. Start slow before going to a massive dose.

[nefrella]

@nefrella

So, the tincture I made last night was 28g/16oz alcohol.

(.2 x 28000mg x .75)/473 ml = 8.88 mg/ml

When I reduce this (I didn’t measure how much I got in actual returns, will do that before the reduction for notation purposes), Do you just reduce by half (eyeballing it as you double boil it?)

So, follow up question - do you measure the overall strength of the tincture AFTER you’ve reduced it?

Seems to me that the strength (potency) wouldn’t change, just the dosage amount right?

[nefrella]

@ReikoX

You can reduce it pretty low, but since you used 60% ethanol instead of 95%, you are going to have issues due to all of the water. I would suggest reducing it all the way to oil, removing all the water. Then add back alcohol to the desired potency.

It was briefly discussed in this post:

Yeah, stupid California and low apv pppppfffffbbbbbtttttttt

[ReikoX]

@nefrella

So, follow up question - do you measure the overall strength of the tincture AFTER you’ve reduced it?

YES after! So if you, for example, reduced it to 200 ml, it would be ~21 mg/ml.