I’m greatful to @upstate for the opportunity to grow these out my camera is still broke so I’ll barrow grandpas phone when he gets up 
sorry for the inconvenience so I’m about 20 miles south of the 38th parallel grem rate was 10/10 but I had one damp off and didn’t catch it in time and one more that had some kind of deformity of it’s tap and it failed immergance so that left me 8/10 these will be grown how I grow everything including food crops naturally living soil iNdigenous microorganisms FAA labs ect. Some jadam jlfs no chemicals of any kind Long Live the Natural Farmer!
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If you have the time give us detailed notes of every single time you give your plants one of your natural fertilizers. In my heart I know this is the way to grow. TThere is no other style as natural.
I look forward to seeing what you pull out of these.
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Ok , but please explain? I got no problem with it I’m just not sure I fully understand what you are asking? @upstate Thanks PS I’ll do the best I can
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Ok so like like just what and where I source and why? And maybe how often? Like that type of stuff? PS It’s mostly tending the microbes not tending plants that’s the microbes job most of the stuff you’ve heard a thousand times like mulch mulch mulch but then there’s the stuff nobody hardly ever talks about like facultative anaerobes and how to find and grow them and that how they aggressive protect your plant from literally everything from bad microbes, fusarium, all the way through to simple over watering and how easy they are to find in nature:)
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So bed prep ; broad fork gets oxygen in the clay layer and will bust there hard pan if you have that issue with out mixing the different layers of strata together which create the hard pan to start with , then I went to the creek by my house and got some loads of river wash which is just nature’s compost with a high sand content:) and in the process I’m cleaning up the local swim hole and every year the rainy season brings in more I put a 4-6 inch layer on top and planting in that but still reaching the top of clay layer for initial planting , the river wash is full of worms and loamy stuff full microbes doing there work always smell the stuff before use the nose knows oh and I put a couple hand fulls of my biological complete compost well I don’t have a scope but I’m pretty sure it’s a complete soil food web because of all the different things I put into it stinging nettle, yellow dock, milk thistle horse tail and microbes from all the different ecosystems like old growth, creek bank meadows, cedar tree litter a spot where we have spit wood for years and all the bark bits has been breaking down and it’s that process that creates humis so I sift it it’s full of myco spores and all the microbes that go along with that so dark and rich it’s texture is velvety
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I love it 
all the best with the grow 
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Blessing you with good vibes brother! I’ll be starting these before long as well!
Happy Growing!!
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This is the spot , there’s 3 creeks that come together right here so during the heavy rains it washes all the forest and creek waste up here I’ll take some better pictures soon
There are many different ways to accomplish same out come in natural farming so try not to get caught up on the little things like for instance not having a creek in your area
no worries and I can address these types of things observation is key
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Here’s a closer look see the different textures? The inner ring is my compost and the other is the “creek magic” blessing from the green man however one might want to look at it
and that’s all the “fertilizer” I’ve used so far oh and a tip to gather things: use it immediately! If you do need to store it do it on the ground pull back the leaf litter right on the ground under a living, healthy tree , don’t pile it too high and cover it with leaves and the life will keep for a little while if need be
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This is going to be a good thread to watch
Got all the hallmarks of a excellent show💚
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And for full transparency here a picture of last year’s IMO pile it’s was grown out on wheat bran and it’s formed a solid mass of mycilial structure it has even darken from forming humates
I prefer rice bran but it’s what I had so it’s what I used a body could even use dog food if they had to
I sprinkle it on the ground when I break ground it’s full of sapporphitic fungi spore they’re what keep the forest breaking down the forest litter these guys make for a system that perpetuates , observation PS I’m not meaning to sound preachy or high horse or none of that, please don’t take it that way I’m still a student as well I’m only trying to share my realizing of things:)
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Alright I got em all tucked in right before a afternoon spring rain/thunderstorm
Its just mimicking nature really it’s the microbes that drive the system and if everything that grew was chopped and dropped “seeded” it would perpetuate because of the life that’s allowed to thrive by having the “mulch layer” the sapperfites have not only a food source but thick enough to keep moisture right, airflow it can “breath”, block UV and act as a food source, a couple times a season I’ll pull the browns/mulch back and put down some green/like a healthy thistle or other wild flower , ditch flowers plants herbs ect oh like chop N drop / compost in place just don’t forget to cover it up with mulch/browns so the microbes can do their work
PS and that’s all I’ve done So Far it’s the first time growing anything in that spot so I had a bunch of prep work but not really I break it up over time so it’s not that bad I just start early “slow and steady wins the race” lol
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@rogue check out the thread rogue has developed a super cool self contained indoor version that is really cool and if anyone reading this hasn’t seen yet and cant grow outdoor should really check out his work it it’s a very efficient system PS did I miss anything so far? Your input has value my friend
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Ok so I mixed up a 4 gallon bucket of well water I added humic acid 1tsp gal , fulvic acid 1/4 tsp gal yucca extract 1/4 tsp gal, I’m out or I would have put sea-90 in there too at a rate or a tsp gal I also put Lab 1fl oz per 4gal and WSCalPhos 1.75 FL oz per 4gal which I make from deer bones that pouchers leave on the side the road and FAA 6 Tbsp per 4gal this is my everytime I water mix minus the FAA that’s only 3 maybe 4 times during veg and I don’t use FAA in flower unless I’m making seed then I use it at half or quarter strength PS I feed alot more than just these plants just so you know and just to get everything jumping PSS the FAA/fish amino acid/ liquid fish is like adding rocket fuel to the system
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Thanks for the tag and making this thread @drgreensleeves , following.
The only thing I’d add to your garden is a wide variety of companion crops.
That’s it, that’s all I would do, all the extra stuff you’re adding is fine but I don’t consider it necessary.
Let the plants work for you.
The companion crops you can just let them go to seed and die in winter, the dead plant material from the companion crops will be like a blanket protecting your soil over winter, next spring you can transplant your cannabis straight into that mulch, or just throw seeds down early spring.
Letting the companion and cover crops go to seed means they will just return next spring so you don’t even need to think about them anymore.
Now that I’m thinking of it, it’s not necessary to make a distinction between companion crops and nitrogen fixing covercrops, just sow it all together, mix it all up.
If you haven’t dug swales yet, also a good idea, they can serve as footpaths and you can fill them up with woodchips inoculated with edible mushroom spores/mycelium.
If your ground is level then you can apply an efficient geometric pattern, paths that look like a river are most efficient, but annoying to walk on, so you can go for something triangular perhaps.
This way your footpaths are multifunctional; they harvest water, produce mushrooms, insulate your soil and slows evaporation, AND you have a walk way.
That’s 5 functions in one.
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Yeah buddy! But know I’m only one man the wood chip walk way with wine caps growing on them is one I’m working on i just finding a good free or close to it source of wood chips slow and steady wins the race lol PS oh and for others to know Beware! Buying hay and using it in the garden and or using it for compost and when the cows eat it it’s in the manure for 3years ! Glyphosate! Is a very persistent chemical, if you buy hay buy the alfalfa mix they can’t use it on alfalfa it’s high dollar horse hay but it’s “clean” sorta smh lol
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I ain’t saying you gotta do it all in one day, or at all! 
Enjoy the journey, the planning, the contemplating, the imagining, selecting your many species!
Permaculture is a bit of work in the beginning, but once you have the landscaping and seeding done it’s just harvesting and observing in awe, watching your garden get richer and more fertile year after year.
Just keep in mind to never harvest everything, let half go back to the Earth, this is what ensures long term abundance; lack of greed.
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Well 
couldn’t I just bury some well not really bury but dig down and place limbs and like 2-3 inch round limb logs up to ground level and maybe fill the voids with greens and just cover with leaves? idk I’ll figure it out lol PS oh and I’m not done I’ve still got some tricks up my sleeves lol
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Sure, if your ground slopes then that’s good to slow down runoff and catch mulch.
Rocks are fine too. May seem weird to add big rocks to your garden but it creates a unique more moist habitat in the soil right underneath it that is inviting to worms, frogs, lizards, etc.
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Tree removal services sometimes give away wood chips. Sometimes they make you take a whole dump truck full to make it worth their time. Might be worth checking out.
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