Oni's 2nd grow. Continued

Zelda is eating about 4-5 leaves a day so far. Otherwise she seems fine, but I should probably start giving her something to try and fix the issue before she eats herself bald. Upside is it’s mostly lowers that are getting eaten. Probably related to not enough light. I’ll get them more light once I get paid.

Tulip is looking really happy in the tent now. She has some sort of magnesium deficiency or similar forming on the edges of the leaves again. Seems my soil has enough to keep them growing, but not enough to support growth in the stage they’re in properly.

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I may have given Tulip too much water. She finally had runoff. About 10%. I have to get something to put under the pots soon to allow proper drainage. By around midday she’ll look good again.

Zelda looks happy with her watering, so that’s a good sign. No runoff at all when she was watered with the same amount as Tulip, so she’s the thirstier of the 2 I guess.

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i would like to suggest not giving zelda anything for deficiency because it could be complete opposite of what you’re thinking it may be… now as i am learning organics im learning the less is more and you can easily overdue it. so in case anything is locked in terms or ph in the area its off in it may have what you think is missing just due to the ph swing its not uptaking that particular mineral. with the leaves i would suggest cutting any that its signals because its drawing food sources from that area of the plant due to lught like you said and other reasons also… someone feel free to chime in and correct me if need be

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also you can mix molasses epsom salt (unscented) and water to help. i am unsure with exact amounts but it will give you trace elements of calcium and iron magnesium. and the eposom salt gives you sulphur and magnesium

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I gave her some Epsom salt in her water last week. Past that I’ve been giving her water only before that since February. I used too much compost before I guess and after I added some insect frass to the top she started to perk up a lot, but even still I’m trying to keep from adding anything to the water at all.

The soil should have plenty of potassium and phosphorus in it already, but with the extra nitrogen from both the clover and the too much compost topdress didn’t help much. I’ll be learning from this grow for sure. I want to give Zelda’s genetics the full potential they can ask for

Once she had time to drink she perked right back up.

Both got tap water only until the whole pot was wet to the touch. Zelda had no runoff and Tulip had 10% of what I gave her removed.

The smell is intense in the tent now. Enough that I can’t smell the difference in the plants today. I should be back tomorrow to check up on them

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I don’t have a lot of details today. Proper update will come later when I’ve woken up a little.

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Zelda has a sugary sweet pine smell today. She’s thirsty though. I’ll have to give her some water tomorrow. Today I’ll LITFA. I’m going to try and train her top down and spread out the branches. She’s too bunched up for proper spacing between her 12 branches :sweat_smile:

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Tulip needs to spread out as well. She’s an intense skunk, pine, citrus, and sweet note. If I didn’t know better I’d say she’s trying to lean on a pineapple smell. If she was sweet first she’d be a straight up pineapple smell once she made a vanilla or woody note also.

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Here’s the afternoon pics before I left. I noticed Zelda is fattening up the colas and she’ll want the extra light from the lst I’ll start tomorrow. It’ll take some time to even out her canopy and get all the lights at a proper distance.

Tulip is finally starting to show buds on top forming her little fuzzballs. Her color is starting to look interesting.

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Tulip has a 8 finger leaf😅

Zelda doesn’t appear to need water today, so LITFA continues until she wants water.

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Change of plans for the watering schedule. Soil was receding from the edges of the pot, so I gave Tulip and Zelda water today. No nutrients, just water only heated to 75f. No runnoff at all not even dribbling on the sides.

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After they all drank up they all perked up nicely. Late AF update 7.5 hours late after pics were taken :skull:

Zelda is looking much healthier now and Tulip is looking like she’s trying to turn blue😅 I’ll add more details in the morning when I go in to foliar feed the Lucky’s and check up on the rest of the tent.

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Loving your grow mate.

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I got some night pics to share since I went in to foliar feed the Lucky’s. It’s lights on now after finishing my update LoL

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Tulip looks like a plant I would keep. Zelda, not so much.

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Yeah Zelda isn’t looking the best, but she seems to be happy no matter what. She has preflowers from just above the base stem on all branches that form a cola, so either way she’s staying.

I didn’t get to transplant Zelda before flowering. She’s filled out the pot fully already and the issues are in part from that.

What intrigues me is she is stretching, but you’d never know😅 her stems get thicker with each stretch. Honestly if I didn’t know better I’d say she’s leaning on a Haze phenotype somehow. Also she looks like her Mom, so all in all she’s doing what her mom did. I went overboard with compost sadly and trapped her in a cycle of nitrogen toxicity. She’s almost recovered, but all in all I’d rather learn than be told it’s a waste of my time.

Remember I’m a stubborn autistic and if I haven’t had a personal experience I struggle to understand why I can’t do something. I have to see it for myself and I don’t trust blindly. So far her colas are getting fat.

Sorry, but could you explain why? She’s not the best looking, but neither is any sativa or haze either.

She was trapped in a reveg cycle I’m being told and to my knowledge she’s still in the window of time before her leaves can recover being root bound in a fabric pot somehow. I can feel her roots coiled on the bottom. It feels like a wicker basket that gives to pressure. I felt at least 2 stacked coils on the bottom the other day.

Also she never really grew back any fan leaves I took off awhile ago. She just went into single leaf and preflower production instead. Personally I’d keep Zelda over Tulip as the yeild that Zelda will get is most important to me. A pretty plant is useless if it gives you nothing for such a long time growing.

It’s mostly a personal preference, partially because it is a sativa (NLD). But, she has struggled the whole time, has had clawed leaves, looked like she was flowering in veg, and has poor structure. That and I refuse to grow bag seed, S1s, or pollen chucks. Too many good genetics to bother with sub-par stuff IMO.

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You know Tulip is a bagseed right?:sweat_smile: Zelda is from @ModicumGenes and rn it’s still not 100% what strain she is until she starts making a smell that’s not basic mixed with basil notes. I know I have a Basil plant in there.

I know how to ignore smells😅 it’s mostly a breathing technique. Zelda is a sweet, citrus, pine, and black pepper smell atm. Tulip looks pretty, but she’s a strong skunk only. No other smells at all anymore. Just a smell like a skunk sprayed my tent when I open the door. Next watering I’ll be going from the bottom instead.

I will say she struggled because I screwed up at nearly every stage. Tulip got so much LITFA it’s probably why she’s like this now. I grew her different in the end. She got less compost too and her soil is a lot more balanced without the middle being a different soil that’s poorly amended. I’ll have the money to not just deal with it soon. I Never expected to be out of work so long. I had to recover though. Spine problems are no joke and if I have to work in manual labor I’ll use charity from my friends and family to keep alive until I recover I will. Even if it took me a year and all my favors got used up. Until April I could barely move at all. If I leaned over to touch my toes or try to lift with my legs my arms gave out and my hands went numb. I still get random times where I can’t feel my hands anymore. It sucks, but I tired not to use it as away to be grumpy and angry at the world. I hurt myself from my nature of being a workaholic and putting everything I can into my job minimum wage or not.

I lucked out and managed to get a dishwashing job. It’ll keep me in a easy transition to working again while I can barely lift my right arm without my while right side of my ribs wanting me to cry.

At this point I’ve reserved myself to being in agony always. I’m done using it as an excuse to not do something. I’d rather do it and show someone I’m not capable rather than just tell them no. I ask for help when needed and Otherwise I use adrenaline and Anandamide to push past the pain. Work is about 45 minutes from my house, so if I keep a decent pace I get a runners high to help get me through an hour of work to get the adrenaline I need to not feel pain for 5 hours.

I’ll add though that sativa or not she’s on a headstart to finish around the same time as Tulip it appears. Her genetics don’t have any indoor acclimation yet I’m being told also. Once her cutting starts growing again I’ll see how it does outside. I have enough plants in there to use as a cover crop in that bin once they start growing.

Okay, so correction on Zelda’s smell profile. She’s a primary sugary sweet, herbal(like lavender), skunk, and menthol. She actually smells almost exactly like my favorite rolling papers. Skunkalicious by skunk brand. If I smell the house after I can notice some pine still, but that may be the Lucky’s

Tulip has changed her smell from yesterday to a sweet, skunk, and something I can’t place RN that reminds me of a cookie. So far she’s true to her genetics LoL. GSC bagseed FTW🤣

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Initially my only source for seeds was the rare bagseed. No offense, but I’m not paying 100 for 10 seeds. I’d rather work my own from a bag while I’m learning to grow anyways. I won’t get any better yield until i can get a handle on growing properly no matter what genetics I use. Autos have humbled me in my growing ability. Until I can get my environment dialed in I can’t expect to see anything great either. If i had the cash flow at the time I’d have transplanted Zelda by washing her roots off the soil first before I put her in a newly mixed up soil that wasn’t a compromise. Also I’ll be the first to say that I don’t like fox farm soil. It became so hydrophobic that I couldn’t water properly for too long. I’ll stick to spending a little more on my base soil instead of a cheap $9 12 quart bag of ffof and happy frog. 2 bags each just to barely have enough soil. Too many problems with it i didn’t have on my first grow. As much shit as I got about my first grows soil it doesn’t become hydrophobic as bad as the 50/50 fox farm mix. It’s honestly sad as they’re extremely expensive online and everywhere else I’ve looked for it and they’re meh quality at best. It became very compacted when watered initially before it dried out too much to accept water again. I may have killed the microbes I want by using hot water and effectively drowning the soil to fix that problem, but in the end I didn’t have to watch as Zelda was dying anymore. Her leaves are no longer paper thin. She’s drinking again and her leaves are starting to grow in normally now too. Claws don’t really go away. I left them on. If I pruned off the remaining claws she’d look like a healthy haze plant albeit a odd one. Does NLD mean nonverbal learning disability? As yes I do have that. It’s why I surprise people when I tell them i have Autism unless they know someone with it too. If I’m tired and not feeling social life like most of the time at work I’ll drop the bomb on them after they start to joke around with me comfortably. That part is more of a paranoia about people not liking autistics over here a lot of the time. High functioning or not I’ve finally reserved myself that I am retarded :joy::skull: I just can’t understand some things no matter how hard I try to. Mostly because it makes no sense and no one ever gives more details than anecdotal or assumptions rather than evidence and even then with all that I have some things I’ve never been able to do even knowing how. Somehow my body won’t do it without screwing up signals to my hands. Other times I just escape into my mind and I don’t have control over that. That’s in part due to my GAD and the constant Panic attacks that have no reason I can notice.

Sorry I’d I’m not making a lot of sense today. Officially 2 days into a tbreak and if I don’t use my meds I don’t have full control of my emotions and I sadly get confrontational. I’m taking the extra time to get through the text and try to not argue if i catch it. I have to fight the Autism hard today apparently as I can’t wrap my head around much today and push back against things that make little sense to me. I’ve said a lot about myself, but the truth is without cannabis I’d be dead in a gutter somewhere probably. My last bad tbreak I got kicked out and was homeless with a 20 hour part time minimum wage job as my only income. I couldn’t even afford to live at the YMCA and I was fired the next day anyways on April 1st. With my clinical depression I can’t escape sometimes in combination with my anxiety if I didn’t have a good friend I’d have never gotten back home and started growing last year. Until that point I’d only taken care of a rubber tree for around 20 years. Ol’ Rubbie started in a tuna can when I first started growing it. Unfortunately it was so severely root bound that it lost all it’s foliage and without a light or tropical environment I could only do so much to keep it alive. The roots on Ol’ Rubbie looked exactly the same as how Zelda’s roots feel. Just roots circling around the bottom stacked on top of each other.

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