Hey @SWIM_Yenobi , I’ve been following along and really enjoy the way you do your focused seed making. I’d love to do a seed swap with you, if you’re alright with sending up north.
I am going to attempt sending there soon and would love to trade with you @Budderton. I enjoy reading your thread and what you’ve done for the community. I will send you a DM soon. Thank You.
Og Kush~
SFV OG BX1- MotaRebel (SFV)
OG D Lux- Ethos ( TK/Josh D/OGKB)
TrapStar- Exotic Genetix (LA OG)
OGKB BX1 F2- The Cut Genetics (OGKB)
BikerKush- Karma (Hells OG/ SFV)
Jesus OG- Producers Overstock ( Hells OG)
Mikey Mike- Skunkhouse (Larry)
2000s OG Kush (CA OG)
2000s Fire OG (Fire)
White OG S1- Karma
Banana~
Modified Banana F2 - Skunkhouse
C Banana S1- Hammerhead
Banana Kush F10- Jaws
Banana Punch- Symbiotc
Banana OG F4- Nachos El
OG Banana King- OroVerde
Sour Dubb~
Sour Bubble- BOG (Opened Original Release)
Sour Bubble 05-10’ IX- Tony Green
Sowahh- Karma
Sour Diesel IBL- Stonefarm
Midtown Madness B
Longbottom Leaf~
Longbottom Fighter F2 Starfighter- Bad Dawg
SFV OG BX1- MotaRebel
Jesus OG Kush- Producers Overstock
Sour Diesel~
Sour Diesel BX4- Top Dawg
Sowahh- Karma
Sour Diesel IBL- Stonefarm
Double Dose Diesel- Katsu/Stonefarm Collab
Old Red Sour- Old School
Upstate Sour- Piffcoast
Bruce Banner x Sour Diesel- Darkstar
Midtown Madness B
AJ Cut Sour Diesel
S1 Projects~
Midtown Madness B
GG4
Chem 91
S2 Projects~
White OG S1
CBanana S1
Incross/Preservation Projects~
90’s Mr.Nice Seeds
SFV OG BX1- MotaRebel (x8/40 seeds)
Jesus OG Kush Producers Overstock (x2/30 Seeds)
Longbottom Fighter- Bad Dawg
Sour Diesel IBl- Stonefarm
Triple Burger- Skunkhouse
Hazelnut Cream- Exotic Genetix (x2)
Banana Punch- Symbiotic
Modified Banana F2- Skunkhouse
Trapstar- Exotic Genetix
Romulan BX1- Romulan Genetics’
Banana OG F4- Nacho El (With Jaws F10)
This is not my entire vault but everything I’m going to use to create my beginning stock. I have a temperature controlled Seed Vault Mini fridge build I’ll share. I’d like to get some of my older gear preserved and vaulted as quickly as possible. Working on setting up a system to work on multiple preservations at a time.
At 4 months a project that is north of 4 years of work just in individual preservations if I stay at only one tent. I’m going to go to 3 tents in my next build. Technically 5 w/ 1-Veg+Clone and 1-Drying tent. I’m waiting to buy other equiptment. I will post Specs.
I stopped the separation. At this point I just want them to germinate. After 72 hours I had only 3 of all these seeds crack but none have given a tail. The ones opened prior to germination don’t have any progress either but they’re not rotted. I moved everything into the worm castings a moment ago after manually removing all seed casings. Hopefully I can get a few of these to pop but this will be my last attempt before moving to tissue culture besides the monster garden kit. I will be ordering the monster garden old seed kit this weekend.
Here you can see a couple of the embryos. None of the first test made it.
Focused breeders-
These are the standouts (Circles). The first here is several others I will keep for multiple reasons and use but these all posses some traits (it would be better to say they posses the least negative traits) I would like to see in the gene pool moving forward personally.
Top Dawg (x2)
Karma (x3)
Piffcoast (x1)
Katsu (x0)
Old School (x0)
90’s Mr.Nice Stock Project:
So far nothing has germinated so I will be putting this project on hold. I will build a small TC setup for this and other old seeds I collect. I have a new setup build and concentrate setup to finish before then.
Seedstock and Orders:
Lost an order for the Nacho El 2nd pack. I will never use or recommend GlassMMJpro. Terrible business. Everything else will be here soon and I’ll photo breeding stock.
Sour Diesel Project:
Will be pushing all keeper expressions to 12 weeks. I will be germinating the Sour Diesel IBL-Stonefarm next weekend. I setup a Reveg area and will begin harvesting 80%~ mass from non-keepers & non-breeders when a majority of the seeds begin exposing then moving to reveg (in case they cure into something worth keeping or moving forward.). The old red sours are ready. They all developed an extremely sour fruitiness much like again Zkittles.
Purple Cannabis- I personally am not a fan of purple cannabis it tends to be incredibly narcotic to me. Anthocyanins do not photosynthesize as effectively as chlorophyll so when chlorophyll degrades exposing anthocyanins the plant cannot essentially grow as effectively as chlorophyll spectrum material. I researched a while ago when everything was still more hypothetical and logged it with product testing for “purpling product and methods” on RIU such as PurpleMaxx and Cold temps, when I would chase true purple due to its higher sales point when I did such activities. The MMB is still around due to it exceptional terp profile of new tennis ball.
Here is some old concentrate photos of mine I grabbed from older logs to give a break in the words. I only do everything live these days and am currently looking for a plant that will translate effectively with Jar Tek. Also want to experiment with diamonds processing.
Current Update. I brought the temp int this room to 42F to take this picture as quickly as possible. When the final part arrives I do not plan to pull these out again until germination. This is only a part of my vault but all I plan on using or preserving for now.
Removed my first expression displaying late flowering “Nanners” intersex traits.
Bruce Banner x Sour Diesel #1
I will be getting rid of these seeds at a local mountain.
Harvested and Culled Expressions:
(Stable) Will not be revegging every expression. I’m going to perform selections based off personal preference and classic references. I will be culling the rest of the expressions that do not receive breeder/keeper titles.
Current planned expressions to be Revegged and Keeper Count:
Breeders count contain keepers and breeders
Karma- x5 Breeders (x2 Keepers)
Top Dawg-x3 Breeders (x2 Keeper -1-Sour OG) (x4 Revegging total)
Piffcoast- x2/x2
Katsu- x0/x0
Old School- x0/x0
BB x SD- x0/x0
Katsu #2- Grapefruit Sour. Good seed producer and you can tell it put most of its energy it that. Finished Quickest.
Stonefarm~
I put the 8 that seemed ready into red solos with starting media I made using 60/20/20 (Mostly peat starting mix/ EWC/Perlite) didn’t photograph yet but when I checked this morning they appeared okay. I will likely have to manually remove several seed casings. They seem to be having some trouble.
All 11 germinated. I only started the 8 that were ready.
I buried them about a 1/3”-1/2” deep. Only one removed its own casing of 6. I manually removed the casing and membrane. 2 haven’t broken ground yet and I just started the last 3. 1 I was able to remove casing and plant taproot. I have 7/11 above ground. I figured it was due to the being around a decade old and shell hardening.
I will be harvesting all of the diesel seed plants this weekend and begin revegging keepers and breeders.
Sour Diesel Project Males:
There is only certainty with the mother. The fathers again are likely Top Dawg BX4 & Karma Sowahh. I’d put it into ratios once I increased wind to 40/40/20 TD/K/PC. I can read males and each pot and use this to possibly narrow down initial donor.
*MSD- Mystery Sour
AJ x MSD (Not for Donation or Trade)
Midtown Madness B x MSD (Not for Donation or Trade until Reveg success.)
Don’t plan on working with any clonestock except to S1 for personal hunting stock so I will not ever release seeds made unless I popped the parent stock essentially (Excuse my first Mexican crosses.)
The longer I’m at this the more it all seems a bit recycled. A lot of todays varieties seems to be reworked ibls of European lines. Most American varieties I like tend to be eerily similar to NL, HP, Skunk, G13 x, Haze A/C expressions. For example I have seen OG and Chem expressions in Hashplant lines. Afghani lines in general carry these expressions un-worked. Sour is definitely skunk x. If you pull super skunk logs and old reviews it comparable. VSCs interaction with terps are what create these skunk/rubber expressions. Here is an old photo of Hashplant to compare to OG structure.
Note:
Volatile Sulfur Compound begin degrading after curing so fresh after curing to one week into storage would be peak time to test for these profiles.
Harvested today since I had the day off. Here is the final list of expressions moving forward. Some stuff has been mislabeled previously but I was able to follow from original lay point today on everything to verify.
Keeper is loosely termed here to reference the best of the breeders.
If this was a hunt there would be only 2 plants being kept or expressions I’d personally keep:
Karma- Sowahh #5 (Listed as 10 before.)
Top Dawg- Sour Diesel BX4 #6
I feel it is important to keep a complete profile as possible while removing undesirable traits through the culling process through multiple generations. “Keep the best, Cull the rest.”
It’s okay it just takes time for me to make my packaging and I was putting as many seeds as I could. Resends got my Mexican “F2” seedstock lower than I’d like but I wanted to complete every order. I will still likely do a donation post but I will be more selective and there will be no free follow ups or messages after I close it unless members have enough trust. It was an easily avoidable oversight and a lesson with my first donations. Most went well and most resends were understandable so it’s just a preventative measure.
It’s bumming me out to see all the trade/mail problems on OG lately. Lots of good members are getting feed up with the problems. I’ve sent and been sent a lot of packages around the world and have only had a letter not show up once so I find it hard to believe it’s all the mails fault. I hope you find a good resolution.
The Sour Diesel seeds did not produce nearly as many seeds as I’d like of the breeders and the keepers even more so. It is due to the size of the plants themselves. Each pot contained 4 plants so individually they were not that large and I left a good amount for Reveg. I’m going to make a trade post first then I will donate remaining after I separate a small amount of trading stock for future trades and a personal reserve not for trade. What is remaining I will separate and send to a few people from the Mexican project.
Awesome projects brother! I have some karma x rez and rez x karma sour diesel this makes me want to dig into them lol. I like the sound of the og and the 90’s stuff you have on the go. I’m going to stick around if you don’t mind
