Part 2: Fun with Ace - Panama/Malawi/Haze

Grapefruit Final 70 days

She got pretty foxtail-y at the end. I think I gave her a bit too much light with all the leaf curling etc. But what a great plant. Great smell, easy to grow. Can’t wait to cure and smoke.

I’ll be offering up some testers in a few weeks. Gonna be bomber.

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Looks pretty great to me, foxtails and all. Imagining those grapefruit terps has me drooling.

Can’t wait to see people running those!

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Dude that looks amazing!! I always found that the Grapefruit buds always look like that, just the way she grows bro

Edit,
How’s the density? I bet if you give her a squeeze she’s like a hard sponge, if that makes sense…

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Good density! I like a bit looser bud like this. Really good against botrytis. Strikes a nice middle ground between a denser indica and a wispy sativa. Dense enough to get good yields, but not so much that it traps moisture.

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Beautiful plant and 20 characters too

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That wild Thai looks amazing finished quickly as well
Awesome

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Well I finally tried some of it today. It’s actually really unique and strong as hell. Lots of high in the face, eyes and forehead. Very pleasant, fruity/skunk smells. Very enjoyable high that’s got me pretty wicked blazed right now.

I think it was just a slow grower, and it could have used a longer veg. Perhaps some hybrid vigor in one of the crosses would be worth exploring. Malawi/Panama would probably have a pretty tropical palette.

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Hell yeah ! Love the sounds of that ! Really appreciate the reports ! And the bud shots ! Great work !
I was drooling over the last pics as well !
Hope you are having a killer day brother !
Peace and love yeah !

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Always wanted to run a Malawi but the long flowering time
Scares me lol
Do think I will do a sativa run soon but I keep putting it off
Maybe spring

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Malawi isn’t so bad at 10-13 weeks. I’ve gotten myself used to growing ~10-14 week strains. Just takes a lot of patience. Grow something fast and high yielding first lol. The one I’m scared of is OT Haze… Not sure I’m prepared for a 20 week strain.

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I keep looking at the OT Haze and VBlack and drool but just can’t seem to pull the trigger
20 plus weeks damn In a small tent lol :joy:

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Panama Haze Final 79 Days

This one surprised me. Just over 11 weeks and it finished. Ace’s website says 13-16 weeks. I probably would have let it go 12 weeks, but it started throwing nanners. It’s just done.

Not a big yielder, but it smells soapy and hazy. I think it’s gonna be a good smoke!

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Panama Haze Trimmed

I have to admit, that I’m a little enamored with this plant. It’s wasn’t the best yielder, and it did toss a nanner or two at the end (I have a lot of light leaks). But really nice density sativa buds, loaded with trichomes. Delicious soap/haze flavor, and awake but relaxing high. I can’t wait for it to cure.

My first thought is that this would be amazing crossed to a Lebanese. I paired together, the Lebanese might bring it down to a really nice medium-low potency de-stressing strain. It would finish a hell of a lot earlier too. Might be time to get some pollen and take some clones…

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“Awake but relaxing” is something I don’t have enough of. Most of my “daytime” strains are either “time to get stuff done fast” strains, or too stony to get properly motivated.

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All very nice, but that grapefruit is just beautiful!

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wow some great flowers here and great strains enjoy the fruits of your labour :slight_smile:

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It’s actually one I’m trying to chase down at the moment. I don’t smoke much in the daytime, because I’m much more picky about how it will affect me while I have to get stuff done. Instead, I usually go to more narcotic strains in the evening for that, because I don’t like getting too blazed during the day and I don’t want to be up all night. Mostly I smoke to relax from stress and general anxety. So I’ve been looking out for something that fits what I want in the daytime. Mostly the Blue Hemp Lebanese, but with a little bit more potency, while also keeping it’s relaxing high. I’d like to get a little more scent and structure in there too.

This Panama Haze is really nice, but too strong for what I’m looking for. So I think it could be the sativa mate I need. I really like everything about it. I like it at this strength too, but I’d probably smoke it more frequently if it were a little more chill and tuned for my idea daytime high.

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Free Seeds to Testers

Attention sativa lovers. What we have here is a pollen chuck using a few select males, whose pollen I’ve been holding in my dry box. They have been paired to several females, the best of whom are being offered here as testers.

Free ship to people in the US, but also available to Canada for the cost of postage. Must be a trusted OG member. Able start a grow in the next couple months and provide feedback (e.g. grow log, or pics via pm).

The males I used were:

  • a pure sativa Durban from breeder Cannabiogen, bushy, nice branching, with long slender leaves and floral clusters. Females exhibit Durban taste, and strong headrushy, motivating high. Pure airy sativa buds, with good resin coverage

  • Malawi x Panama from breeder Ace, the short pheno (Malawi). Females exhibit strong fruity terpene content, citrusy. One of the best smelling plants I’ve ever smelled. Electric, energizing high.

  • Jungle Spice from breeder Bodhi. Resinous male, with trichs coating the outside of male flowers. Females exhibit, slightly piney, lemon-limey terpenes, dense flowers with high resin content. I made some rosin today, and my wife said “mmmm tastes like sprite!”.

Offerings

These seeds are light brown, but should be fine. I think a few of these could be super-stars, but I’m not sure which. Grapefruit is an intensely grapefruity sativa. It’s a hybrid between C-99 and an unknown sativa (suggested by some to be of Mexican origin). Rewarding to grow, with it’s smells appearing early and lasting into cure. It has a very manageable height, large calyxes, foxtails and sativa leaning hybrid density.

Grapefruit x Jungle Spice is going to be a grapefruity terp monster. I think it has the potential to hit a stride on smell, potency, yield and bud density. Potentially susceptible to botrytis, so keep an eye on it in late flower, top it, cut apart any large colas before drying. I’d guess 9-10 weeks.

Grapefruit x Malawi/Panama (aka Gma & Gpa) more on the sativa end, but I expect these to have amazing terpenes, and energizing high. Likely 10-13 weeks.

Grapefruit x Durban the most sativa of the Grapefruit crosses. An unusual joining of terpenes, but the effects should be on point. I anticipate high yields of frosty, mostly airy buds. Likely 11-14 weeks.

Panama Haze from Ace seeds is a hybrid between their stabilized F10 Panama line and green/purple OT Haze. This mom showed purple foliage, likely inheriting traits of the purple haze male. Smell is soapy and hazy, smoke has some tart lemon flavor. Strong, relaxing high.

Panama Haze x Jungle Spice - For those who like a medium density hybrid bud, this one will probably be desirable. Expect lots of resin and interesting/strong terpenes. Yield uncertain, but smell and effects likely to be very good. Likely 9-11 weeks.

Panama Haze x Malawi/Panama - Ace lovers, this is for you. 50% Panama, 25% OT Haze, 25% Malawi. Two of Aces best sativa hybrids brought together. The Malawi x Panama male selected for it’s shorter, manageable height and good indoor structure, and the Panama Haze with it’s shorter flowering time. If you can wait 11-14 weeks, I think it’s gonna be rewarding.

Panama Haze x Durban - (aka PHD) the Durban could be a good match to boost the yield of the Panama Haze. The most sativa of all of the offerings, expect legit sativa buds, bordering on the airy side, but with plenty of resin and potency. Probably also 11-14 weeks.

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Is long flower time strongly correlated with any particular quality or effect?

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Well, I haven’t grow enough really long flower strains (18+ weeks) to be sure, but I have heard that this is the case. From what I understand, so-called “high ceiling” strains seem to be more common in long flowering varieties. Purely observational, of course… so could be bro science.

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