Thanks for this…
I found the question section not functioning…LOL
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3mbt is 3-methyl-2-butene-1-thiol one of the compounds responsible for the skunk smell in cannabis.
I did a quick search and couldn’t find the exact paper I read.
Its a newish company with a young guy at its head that “first identified” and patented it. Of course the guys name or of his company escape me at the moment. I’ll have to look for it after work.
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Maybe not 
Kevin a. Koby with ABX INVESTMENTS, pretty sure the 3mbt is filed under another business of his.
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I think that was the same compound that someone said was added to make skunk smell like skunk.
It was said the smell did not come from the plant but was added later.
That was on ICrag many many years ago.
Thanks, but it is not that important to me.
I could now do my own research into things, thanks…
Just saw you posted it, thanks a bunch! 
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Sure, but then noone would talk to each other 
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Too true!
There is some evidence that sulfur is needed for certain terpene expressions.
You may notice when describing terps you see this a lot.
SULFUR-CONTAINING VOLATILE ORGANIC COMPOUNDS IN CANNABIS
Seems to be an indication that we are on the right track using sulfur to increase terps. 
I recently went down a rabbit hole about sulfur, most of it went right above my head haha, that being said, some say gypsum will help reduce the sweetness and up the dank smell. Then there’s a whole headache inducing world of enzymes and processes that could transmute elements within the plant.
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Mine too. 
This may be due to fixing the Cation exchange capacity (CEC).
Also, you really can not get enough calcium into the plant.
So a healthy plant may become dank smelling due to increased health.
Cannabis is usually suffering from salt stress and gypsum flushes can fix that also.
I hear ya, the interplant workings are above my paygrade for sure.
The picture/graphs give ya a headache just looking at 'em…LOL
I do feel inputs can have an effect on taste and smell, but unless you are lacking something, I feel it is good to let the plant express itself naturally, unless you find it is lacking something of course.
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This is an interesting thought.
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I wonder why he is keeping careful track?
I have kept careful track, there are exactly 3,721 skunk lines and 829,058 hybrids made from skunk#1.
-SamS
Any skunk, even random crosses that have nothing to do with skunk1, will default to skunk1 on seedfinder and friends.
So i can see the 829k figure being off.
That said there really is a metric fuck ton of skunk1 hybrids anyway 
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Good point, that makes me wonder where/how he got that number.
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Seeing how seedfinder lists just under 28k total varieties, and i know they are missing alot but still…
I think he was being humorous.
I myself answer random numbers in a robotic voice when i get asked stupid questions 
9726 tiles on the floor🤖
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He might have meant filial crosses…
Bump for more discussion on this topic…
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The strains that currently are circulating are not patentable under the plant variety protection law because they do not constitute a real plant variety.
Skunk is not a strain, Kush is not a strain, Cookies is not a strain nothing currently grown is a strain.
They are just mixed plants with no stability, no homogenity, not distinguishable and therefore not a real plant variety.
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So what would fall under that umbrella?
Nothing, that’s the problem.
I have been trying to tell people on various forums the last decades that this is a major problem and that cannabis varieties have to be protected and be saved by people because otherwise landraces/heirlooms will go extinct and that the “breeding” that is being done is not helpful.
Nobody was interested, I was attacked, ridiculed and people like always knew everything better without having real knowledge and didn’t want to hear what I have to say.
Now the problem is even bigger and in my view hopeless.
I have worked for the German branch of UPOV and know what I am talking about, I was working with herbs and vegetables in the plant protection agency and know what is required to be a real plant variety.
I have extensive experience with various cannabis “strains” and I have not ever seen one “strain” that would make it. Lightyears away.
Everything has been turned to shit and is lost.
Don’t get me wrong, I like exploring different phenos, but they are not varieties but just plants.
Maybe clones could get a plant variety protection, but I don’t know exactly.
The “strains” currently grown are not in any way elligible for the protection as seed varieties.
That’s why I say that “breeders” have destroyed the plant and SamS and the other bunch of greedy businessmen have done a catastrophic job.
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Damn! I had no clue tbch
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