yes i was imagining speeding up, heard that Thais finish faster when drought.
i felt that the pure gooey, wich was the fastest of them had more sun-power from the summer. The power is propper on this one.
So, getting them to flower atleast earlyer whould help to gain more of “sunny, energy” in the effect.
I mean i heard thais finish faster when its drought, so with finetuning such techniquest it might work.
Just spoke to someone yesterday who slightly rootbound an Lambsbreath x panama , flowers trough summer.
He said that he believes Equatorials are actually automatics, who are just prevented to flower with our Summers that exceed 13 hours (the maximum daylenght at equator). Not shure on that, but interesting view, i would assume they are automatic after a certain Lifespan.
Yes, automatic after a certain lifespan, for sure, given a daylenghth they are familiar with.
I’ve been tinkering with the idea of calling “true” Equitorial autoflowerers either stress Autos or drought Autos, as both can induce flowering in some genepools. These plants will flower under any photo period, just like an auto, and will do so whether the stress that originally caused this mutation to develope is present or not… Just like an auto, which flowers under any photoperiod whether the environment that led to this trait( cold, long days)exists anymore or not.
@Upstate I think your doing a Thought-experiment, so your saying Equatorials and northern Ruderalis are autos, plus some Equatorials need the added Stress.
What i want to try is further stressing Experiments. Cause there is this moment when our European Daylenghts get shorter and shorther, so these prevent the flowering, but with the right amount of stress i might be able to push this Day to the earlyer.
Didnt work with Stemsplitting at 1st August tho. (But probably this Cambodian is Hybredized )
Sort of. Its hard to put into words without printing a pamphlet.
Most Equitorials flower based on age AND a short daylenghth, but will never flower under long light cycles.
" Stress Autos" ( my term) will flower regardless of daylength when certain stresses ( rootbound)are experienced, but only then.
“Drought” autos are" true " autos, yet not Ruderalis, and will flower when 5-6 weeks old regardless of light cycle or treatment. These are most similar in behavior to a true Northern Ruderalis Auto.
Yeah I have some local genetics of SE Asian heritage that grow till they mature and flower any time of year, though I am reasonably equatorial… I’ve found they mature later than anything even slightly indica so they will often get to 1,5-2 metres and then flower, some of them don’t stop flowering, they just keep throwing out new branches… if you leave them to seed, they will germinate while still in the bud and then they rot and drop already sprouting…. It took me over a year to get my head around how to grow these things in an equatorial zone. It’s everything on its head.
yohoo, i havent smoked the Vietblack pure on its own. Fingerhash absorbtion gave me the feel that its pretty trippy, but a bit of anxiety i felt.
Hoabac is my favorite
4 months after trying my stuff, its still a great memory. strong, making lanscapes look like a painting. So, i could stare at it, and it stayed a painting. Happend for a couple minutes. thats not a hallucination, but slight change of perception
im telling you, it was quiet strong, like in a natural way strong, when you feel out a thing, and you feel, well it had probably not a cozy life, but a live. i ecpected weak lettuche cause the cold grey autumn…
it makes me happy to grow tropical stuff here if it stemms from the exact right location! like a vietnam mountain… there are good mountain Thais too.
they often get purple, red… like per example “purple Thai” wich is Thai x Mexican, it has the deep purple Thai look, wich gives me the vibes, purple lines… its serious weed, i love serious weed.
Like I’ve said, the new hybrids are awesome. The short flowering times and THC percentages (up to 30%! I never thought I’d see the day) are nothing to complain about, but there is a stark difference between the effects. Hybrids hit had and fast, but outdoor-grown landraces have a more rich and complex effect.
I’m hoping breeders can resurrect some of the old landraces we’ve been told are extinct. Breeders have to work with smaller batches and dedicate a lot of resources to hide their crops because of prohibition. That is going to end soon.
SE Asian varieties can be as potent as most hydro poly hybrids imho. I’ve currently got some Herijuana next to some VB and they are both insanely frosty. Just the big ‘Sativa’ have a more soaring high.
I suppose I haven’t tried enough poly hybrids but I have tried some famous ones and the pure sativas get me higher consistently. I suppose it’s possible that the lower thc count does not allow for saturation to occur so that you always get high when you smoke but then again I smoked a hell of a lot of it some days and I never seem to get saturated.
I do believe that land race Thai can reach 30% thc and you would be so much higher then what a 30% polyhybrid will do. I’ve seen some evidence that makes me think this. A thai stick bud from the seventies tested at 15% for both thc and cbd making for 30% + total cannabinoids…
I’d wager the effects of landraces are due to other cannabinoids, such as THCV. There are some 130 different cannabinoids, but we only measure the percentages of a few of them. It’s been said that the difference between NLD and BLD is the THC:CBD ratio, but I don’t think that’s entirely accurate. I strongly suspect that CBN content is a major factor.
No doubt it’s terpenes and cannabinoids that are potentiators for other terpenes and cannabinoids. It may be years before the process is understood very well. The “entourage effect” is more complex than most people will ever know. This is why I prefer hand-rubbed charas, dry sieve or whole flower over other concentrates. Butane, alcohol or even water either destroy or wash away terpenes and almost certainly many cannabinoids.
No doubt old school is still the best quality. There’s a reason much bubble hash is similar in taste and all oil tastes the same ( imo). Those terpenes getting hammered.
My preference straddles all kinds of expressions of this amazing plant. I think sometimes it’s easy to forget that cannabis is one of the world’s most hybridised crops, even most of the wild and true landrace varieties arrived where they ended up through human intervention, some have been selected and have ended up as heirlooms but they too were once ‘poly hybrids’. In its wild form, most cannabis/hemp produce low levels of the active canabinoids, and it’s really only through artificial selection that the plants have developed to be so high in thc etc. I think the cannabis plant, it’s variations, localisations and evolution are inseparable from more than 10’000 years of human intervention. Today’s genetic grey goo poly hybrids given the environment or human input (or total lack of ti)
will end up tomorrow’s ‘landrace’ strains. I agree that collecting and archiving these old heirlooms and ‘landrace’ types is absolutely worth doing, but I also think it’s a bit easy to be exclusivist and dismissive of the whole gamut of things occurring with the commercialisation of weed, some of which is exploitative and industrial, which is a little offensive to those of us who have a passion for the plant and tend and care for them, but that’s farming and legalisation is something we have all wanted since forever, so I think then the maintenance and archiving and collecting of these strains is something that needs a collaborative approac from
Interested peeps, this isn’t anything radical, seed saver networks for heirloom varieties of vegetables/flowers etc have been around forever.
All big pharma is interested in is cannabinoid chemotype and overall biomass, don’t ever expect them to care about the boutique subtlies that are so important to us. To keep that shit alive and real is going to take people whose interests are not 100% commercial.
