Sacred cacti, anyone?

Just got some new bridgesii today, and as you can see I have an assortment of other echinopsis/trichocerus and lophophora.

Anyone else into the sacred cacti?

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That’s a beautiful collection! Do you have a favorite?

I’ve got a pretty large collection of different trichocereus: pachanoi, bridgesii, and Peruvianus and crosses of them. I’ll post some pics soon.

I’ve got plenty of cuttings if anyone wants any

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I really like my macrogonus/validus hybrid. Its the really tall one on the left in the group shot. I have a loph williamsii v jordaniana thats just super pretty, it turns red in full sun.

The crested pachanoi was probably the hardest one to find

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Those crested pachanoi are amazing. I’ve always been curious about their mescaline content. They’re a very magical cacti. When I do find them, they cost an absolute fortune.

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I’ve heard the crested are super strong, but also super hard to clean and prepare. I just think they are beautiful

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I cook the cacti, spines and all. They soften up during cooking so there’s no handling issues during straining. Some people remove the woody, pulpy center of the cacti and only cook the outer portion, but I don’t like that method, personally.

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I have yet to actually consume one… but 1 of these new cuttings might just get eaten. Thats what got me into growing them, its been on my bucket list since I was like 14. And I’m almost 39. So if its gonna happen, im going to have tomake it happen.

I had planned on doing an extraction on it, basically stb and extract into xylene or naphtha, then evap for the nice long needle like crystals.

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Wait, what? Cactus :cactus: grow back after being cut? Like :star2:fish :fish:

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How do you use it after you cook the whole thing?

I took some cactus once which was prepared and dried already. Just a small dose because I was actually supposed to be trip sitter. It was really nice.

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Strain and drink the sludgey tea. Expect to expectorate.

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Why bro? Why drink it then lol

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Got my girl a cactus and she neglected it so bad it started putting out these side shoot arms with roots to collect moisture from the air lol!:joy::joy::joy:

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  1. Begin by adding 100g cacti powder or diced 12in cacti cutting(s) to a pot. Add 30g citric acid or 200ml vinegar or 10ml glacial. If using cacti powder, add enough water to make it wet but not watery.
  2. To this add 2L H2O and simmer for 2hrs. Mix occasionally. Any cacti snot will boil off eventually and the tea should become nonviscous and watery.
  3. Filter out liquid from plant matter with a cloth filter and funnel, and add the liquid to another pot. Reduce this to a low volume by boiling. Add plant material back to original pot, cover with 2L H2O, and simmer for 1hr. Mix occasionally.
  4. Repeat step 3 atleast four to six times total until the liquid filtered out has very little color. Discard plant material after final time and reduce all the aqueous cacti extract to around 300 ml. This can be put in a glass pickle jar. Allow to sit overnight to precipitate unwanted fine particles, but this is optional.
  5. Now it is time to basify. Mix 50g NaOH in 100ml H2O. It will get VERY hot, it is recommended to cool the mixing container while stirring with a cold water bath or under the faucet. Add the NaOH solution to the aqueous cacti extract.
  6. Add 200ml toluene (or xylene) and mix for 10-15 minutes. Let the mixture settle and use a hot water bath to seperate the layers from the emulsion if necessary. Seperate the layers with a pipet, separatory funnel, or syringe. Save the toluene in another glass container and put basic aqueous cacti solution back in original container.
  7. Repeat previous step atleast 4 times total. Discard basic aqueous layer after, saving the toluene extract which contains the alkaloids.
  8. To the toluene extract add 100ml H2O. Add 0.5ml concentrated HCl to this and mix well for 5 minutes. Check the pH. If it is still basic (pH 9+) then add incriments of 0.5ml HCl with mixing and checking pH until it tests acidic (below pH 7). Continue mixing for 10 minutes after. Only one acid salting pull is usually necessary, but more can be performed and may be necessary for larger scale extraction.
  9. Seperate layers, hot water bath may be necessary to seperate emulsion quickly. Filter and save acidic H2O layer and discard/recycle toluene. Evaporate the aqueous layer on a dish with aid of a fan and/or hot water bath. Never use direct heat it will scorch your product. Scrape up the crystals.
  10. Wash crystals with 50ml cold MEK (or anhydrous acetone, ethyl acetate). You will notice the solvent become discolored and the crystals become cleaner. Decant off the solvent carefully, leaving behind the cleaned crystals.

-You will usually be left with light tan Mescaline HCl if pachanoi was used. Yield will be largely dependent on how efficiently you performed the extraction, but most importantly the quality of cacti used in the beginning. 0.5-1.5% yield of dry starting weight is average, but can range anywhere from 0-3%. Enjoy!

Procedure Notes

-Reducing the initial liquid: After each filtration the liquid is put into a pot, the “reducing pot”. This can be boiled on high heat, just make sure it doesnt boil over. Once the liquid has boiled down to a low volume, stop reducing it when it becomes different in appearance and syrupy. Make sure not to reduce beyond this point and obviously dont boil it completely dry. Doing so will destroy alkaloids.

-Filtering plant material: This can be quite a frustrating step if working with cacti powder, though you get the hang of it over time. It is easiest to seperate out the liquid from cacti material by using cloth cut from a shirt and then pouring the sludge into a funnel through the cloth filter. Get a pair of rubber gloves and squeeze out the liquid from the filter. Dont squeeze too hard or cacti sludge will press through. Filtering is easiest to do while the liquid is hot and should be done atleast twice after each water boil. It also gets easier after each boil.

-Checking pH: The pH can be checked with pH paper by dipping it in the toluene/H2O solution while mixing. The paper must come in contact with the water layer as pH cannot be read from the nonpolar layer.

-Washing the crystals: It is important to wash your end crystals with a solvent like MEK or anhydrous acetone to remove impurities. The solvent dissolves resins and impurities, leaving behind cleaner non-sticky crystals.

Additional Purification

Procedure for White Mescaline

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Doesnt change effects much, but increases purity and looks awful pretty! This procedure can be used to obtain pure white mescaline, and solvent ratios must be followed exactly. Solvent ratio affects the rate crystals precipitate out and more importantly their size. If they are too small/precipitate too quickly, they will be too fine to filter or decant liquid from. More nonpolar-> decreases solubility, more methanol-> increases solubility.

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  1. To a glass container with 1g cleaned Mescaline Hcl add 50ml H2O + 1ml HCl. Mix well until crystals completely dissolve.
  2. Add 50ml toluene.
  3. Mix 10g NaOH with 50ml water and add this to the solution, turning it basic. Mix well for 10 minutes.
  4. Seperate layers, saving toluene and discarding aqueous.
  5. To another glass container pour 40ml methanol (HEET antifreeze remover) and add 0.5g fumaric acid. Mix well until fumaric acid dissolves.
  6. Add the fumaric methanol to the toluene and mix it alittle. After a short time, the solution turns cloudy and crystals begin to form. Once crystals settle, mix it alittle more and pour into a dish.
  7. Very carefully decant by pouring off liquid and leaving behind white crystals. With no remaining liquid on the plate, let crystals dry and scrape up, yielding pure white Mescaline Fumarate. Enjoy!

Additional Purification Notes

It is important to remove all the liquid to avoid fumaric acid contamination. Alternatively to decanting, you can filter if the crystals are big enough. This purification SWIM imagines could be used for larger amounts of mescaline keeping to the solvent ratios. It is also possible to use other solvent combinations and acids for precipitation, though this is left up to you. One could also get a pretty pure product if they simply did another hcl salting from the toluene instead of precipitation. Materials Required Checklist.png\ 16x16
Source Material:

* 100g cacti powder or 1-2 12in cutting(s).
Solvents:

* 1L Toluene or Xylene

  • 50ml MEK, anhydrous acetone, or ethyl acetate
  • H2O
  • 40ml Methanol (Optional)
    Reagents/Desiccants:

* 30g Citric Acid or 200ml white vinegar (10ml glacial)

–>Citric Acid Appears More Likely To Cause Emulsions

  • 50g NaOH (Lye)
  • Hcl (Muriatic Acid)
  • 0.5g Fumaric Acid (Optional)
    Equipment:

* Pots

  • Glassware
  • 1L glass pickle jar
  • Evaporating dish/bowl
  • Stir utensils
  • Pipet/syringe/separatory funnel
  • Coffee filters and funnel
  • Cloth filters (shirt)
  • Rubber gloves

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All materials contained in this list can be found at hardware stores, grocery stores, or online by every-day consumers.

Dosage Information

The good thing about making a purified mescaline extract is that you can easily measure exactly how much you are consuming and the experience is more clear. Mescaline is a very “friendly” feeling substance that is probably the least edgy of the traditional psychedelics imho. The experience is usually associated with euphoria, brightened colors, increased sociability, altered thinking, and morphing rainbows/patterns/environment. While dosages vary for everyone, I believe this to be a fairly accurate scale of dosage for the extraction procedure:

  • Threshold <100 mg
  • Light 100 - 200 mg
  • Common 200 - 400 mg
  • Strong 400 - 600 mg
  • Heavy >600 mg
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To journey to a new place, another level… I’ve done the other 2 big hallucinogens so many times I feel there isn’t anything new there. I’ve done 24 gram doses of mushrooms and dropped 10 strips of lsd searching for that next mystical level. I tracked down and made ayahuasca and dmt. (I personally found psilohuasca much more enjoyable.) Tripping has always had a magical feel to me, and mescaline is the only major one I havent tried. Hell I’ve done a bunch of the minor ones like salvia, foxy meloxy, and IT290 back in my raver days 20 years ago (others too, but these I remember the names of)

This is one of my favorite albums for tripping.

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Peruvian apple cactus?

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No, Hylocereus. Not sure of the exact species. The grafted Gymnocalycium has long since parished.

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so it can be used as a tea without the additional refining and processing?

My friends and I blended dry cactus into a powder and drank it with orange juice. One threw up, the other didn’t but felt very nauseous. I just took a few swallows and didn’t get any negative effects with my small dose. I noticed that it was perspective altering, and I got slight granular visuals enhancing the texture of anything I looked at.

My friend who didn’t throw up tripped hardest. his brain kept looking for patterns and recognizable shapes in everything he was seeing. We went into a forest path and as soon as we were away from the streetlights, he grabbed my arm and said “THERE ARE TOO MANY FACES IN THIS DARKNESS, I CAN’T LOOK AT THESE TREES!”

He wasn’t freaking out, he was just overwhelmed.
we had a very good time.

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Wow, this is incredible! Cactus!?!!! Holy cow, this is so cool

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Yes, very much so. If you get lophophora (peyote) you just eat the whole cactus buttons.

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