No, Soma made the New York City Diesel. I mean, he may have made something called NYPD, too, I don’t know, but he definitely made the NYC Diesel.
Which, just so we’re all clear, is not Sour Diesel.
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Lol…I met Soma at the cannabis cup years ago…he was kind of an asshole…lol
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I’ve heard that before 
Not even close to Sour D, although the NYCD I was getting back then was a very popular cut and straight fire. Everything out of NYC in the 90’s was fire. The Piff, Chem, Brown Haze, Purple Haze, and all the $50/1.6 gram hydro from the record stores in the Bronx. So many lost gems. I spent a year in Santa Barbara from 91-92 and the southern Cali outdoor was mind blowing.
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Thought this was interesting about Brown Haze
Here’s my old pack of NYCD. From what I understand, it had no Deisel at all, just Soma cashing in on the name. Early case of the name game. JJ named the NYC Chem as a rib towards Soma, as NYCD had nothing to do with New York or Deisel. Soma himself lists it as Mexican Sativa x Afghani
It’s also biological grown.
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It’s always been the Dutch game. Half the companies on Attitude were selling Sensi Seed knockoffs for 20 years. The industry is still a joke, with everyone now stealing US names. Google “buy OG Kush” and 50 seed companies pop up.
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Everyone in this thread seems to be singing this song
the sour skunk stink will be back with so many people hunting the nostalgia
This is my lone bag seed SD getting strong in veg
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I’m thinking about grabbing the Chimera #3. Looked it up and got a kick out of this……Beleaf labeling NYC Diesel as an unknown bagseed Afghan x Hawaiian. There’s just no solid proof about anything because everything has been word of mouth and hyped up stories passed down in forums for 30 years. Also, different genetic lines with the same name in multi hybrids.
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seedfinder isn’t always accurate
Sour Dubb is BOG’s Sour Bubble clone x Rez Sour Diesel
NYC Diesel is a bagseed diesel crossed to Soma’s Afghan Hawaiian male as already stated. it’s not the same as Sour Diesel.
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No one is debating that NYC Diesel is the same as Sour d. You say seedfinder is sometimes inaccurate? Breeders post info on seedfinder. Why would BOG post the Sour Double cross as NYC Diesel and Sour Bubble is it wasn’t? And how do you know more about Sour Double than BOG himself? And then we have an OG member posting an old pack of Soma NYC Diesel that clearly states it’s a Mexican Sativa x Afghan. Are you telling me you know better than Soma what the NYC Diesel cross is, just because that’s what you believe from what you’ve read online?
@cannavore is correct. Seedfinder is definitely not always accurate. I’ve ran into a few mistakes just recently when researching some stuff. If a breeder claims something, what happens when it goes against what another breeder claims?
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So have I, which is my point. But is he right about the NYC Diesel? Or did Soma change the info at some point because he thought Afghan x Hawaiian would sell better than Mexican x Afghan? As far as that list of breeders selling Sour D…… Who can one believe when all these breeders are claiming the same thing? How can any breeder say they have Sour Diesel in seed form when it’s a clone only?
Looks like, but my question is about the NYC Diesel. Is it Mexican Sativa x Afghan or Hawaiian x Afghan? Everything online states it’s Hawaiian x Afghan, but Soma’s original breeders pack says Mexican Sativa x Afghan.
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Not always. It’s kind of like Wikipedia back in the day, when anybody could post whatever they wanted, whether or not it was true. Seedfinder is definitely not always accurate.
Soma himself has been quoted in multiple publications saying that the NYC Diesel was a cross between a bagseed gifted to him (supposedly from Diesel purchased in NY) and some male of his, pretty sure it was a Hawaiian/Afghan hybrid. There was a time, years ago, when the idea that Sour Diesel was some sort of Mexican strain gained a little bit of traction (pretty sure Jason King started that one in his Cannabible series), which may explain why Soma listed the genetics on that seed pack the way he did. I really don’t know.
And anyway, who fucking cares? This is a Sour Diesel thread and NYC Diesel is not Sour Diesel, so…
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I do. If you don’t care, don’t respond. The first post talks about Notso’s East Coast Sour D and his Sour D. ECSD is not Sour d, so what’s your point?
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Breeders don’t add or post anything to Seedfinder as far as i’m aware. Whoever runs that website does it on their own. For example I have seeds listed on Seedfinder and I didn’t do it, nor did I ask anyone to do it, nor was I contacted about anyone doing it.
Sour Dubb specificially there is some contention about. BOG gave multiple different info over the years (at one point he was claiming Sour Dubb came from one of the seedlines he sold but originally told the guy he gave the 4 seeds to (which one of them became Sour Dubb) that it was “never released to the public”. no one really knows for certain but back in the icmag days it seemed to be agreed that it was BOG’s prized Sour Bubble cut crossed to rezdog’s Sour Diesel IBL or one of the precursor lines to the SD IBL.
Just like BOG, Soma has changed his stories over the years as well. He used to tell the story that he was smoking some fire with an NYC rasta friend and that guy gave him a diesel bagseed. Then he crossed it to Shantibaba’s Afghani Hawaiian.
Here’s a time capsule post from Rezdog of all people lmao showing a quote from Soma’s own website in 2006 saying the rasta story.
The whole Mexican-Afghan being Sour Diesel is a EU seedbank made up story to sell seeds.
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